Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?)

2010-10-05 Thread J. Preben Morth
. Preben On 04/10/2010, at 21.48, Jacob Keller wrote: - Original Message - From: Poul Nissen p...@mb.au.dk To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?) [1

[ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?)

2010-10-04 Thread Francis E Reyes
Hi all I'm reading a recent review by Elspeth Garman regarding radiation damage (Acta Cryst D) and in this she mentions two ideas regarding metal centers: [1] They (The metal complexes themselves) are quickly reduced [2] Their absorption causes localized heating in the crystal. (This

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?)

2010-10-04 Thread Phil Evans
The radiation damage with Ta6Br12 collected on the absorption edge is very severe. There may be a case for avoiding the edge wavelength for this reason Phil On 4 Oct 2010, at 17:28, Francis E Reyes wrote: Hi all I'm reading a recent review by Elspeth Garman regarding radiation damage

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?)

2010-10-04 Thread Dunten, Pete W.
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:29 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?) Hi all I'm reading a recent review by Elspeth Garman regarding radiation damage (Acta Cryst D) and in this she mentions two ideas

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?)

2010-10-04 Thread Poul Nissen
[1] the signal from Ta6Br12 is enormous and one will typically focus on low resolution (below 7 Å) so radiation sensitivity can be handled by a fairly low dose data collection We collected several data sets with Ta6Br12(2+) on the Na+,K+-ATPase (Morth JP et al. 2007) and found that although we

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?)

2010-10-04 Thread Jacob Keller
- Original Message - From: Poul Nissen p...@mb.au.dk To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?) [1] the signal from Ta6Br12 is enormous and one will typically

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?)

2010-10-04 Thread Poul Nissen
with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?) [1] the signal from Ta6Br12 is enormous and one will typically focus on low resolution (below 7 Å) so radiation sensitivity can be handled by a fairly low dose data collection We collected several data sets with Ta6Br12(2+) on the Na+,K