Re: [ccp4bb] Ref for B-factor Underlying Phenomenon

2008-12-11 Thread James Holton
Woops!, yes Randy, I should have written B = 8*pi^2*^2, not 8*pi*^2 in my original response. Incidentally, the "A factor" of a Lorentzian-distributed atom is 2*pi*w where "w" is the full-width at half-maximum (FWHM) of the histogram of displacements. It is important to remember also that th

Re: [ccp4bb] Ref for B-factor Underlying Phenomenon

2008-12-11 Thread Randy Read
Just to clarify what Eleanor is saying: It was pointed out earlier (by James Holton, if I remember correctly?) that only the vibration in the direction parallel to the diffraction vector matters. If the mean-squared vibration in that direction is 1A^2, then the B-factor will be about 80A^2

Re: [ccp4bb] Ref for B-factor Underlying Phenomenon

2008-12-11 Thread Eleanor Dodson
A small molecule crystallography text would give you the formulation for an ideal case. A rough guide is that a B factor of 80 is equivalent to a mean vibration about the coordinate of 1A But for proteins the B factor becomes the collection bin for all sorts of other errors - unrecognised mul

Re: [ccp4bb] Ref for B-factor Underlying Phenomenon

2008-12-10 Thread James Holton
The original reference is Debye, P. (1914) Ann. d. Physik 43, 49, which is in German. Waller's paper came later and the forgotten paper wich did the math rigorously was Ott, H. (1935) Ann. d. Physik 23, 169. The best description I have seen in English was in chapter 1 section 3 of: James R. W. (

[ccp4bb] Ref for B-factor Underlying Phenomenon

2008-12-10 Thread Jacob Keller
Hello Crystallographers, does anybody have a good reference dealing with interpretations of what B-factors (anisotropic or otherwise) really signify? In other words, a systematic addressing of all of the possible underlying molecular/crystal/data-collection phenomena which the B-factor mathemat