Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-27 Thread Robert Nicholls
Hi Uma, Altering sigma affects the strength of geometry restraints throughout the model - bonds, angles, etc. Choosing a very low sigma will cause geometry to be more tightly restrained towards ideal values, which is why you observe improvements in Coot validation. Note that strengthening the

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-27 Thread Robbie Joosten
to relax the geometric restraints too much. Best regards, Herman From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Robert Nicholls Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:25 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value Hi Uma, Altering sigma affects

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-27 Thread Eleanor Dodson
not prove that your model is optimal. If you use too tight restraints you can end up hiding genuine fitting errors. Cheers, Robbie -- Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:04:11 +0200 From: herman.schreu...@sanofi.com Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value To: CCP4BB

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-27 Thread Uma Ratu
up hiding genuine fitting errors. Cheers, Robbie -- Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:04:11 +0200 From: herman.schreu...@sanofi.com Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK It all will depend on the resolution. At low resolution

[ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-26 Thread Uma Ratu
Dear All: I use Refmac5 to refine my structure model. When I set the sigma value to 0.3 (as recommended from tutorial), the resulted model has many red-bars by coot validation (geometry, rotamer, especially, Temp Facotr). I then lower the sigma value to 0.1, the resulted model is much improved

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and sigma value

2012-04-26 Thread Uma Ratu
Hi, Alex: Which sigma do you mean? The one for automatic weight, not for Jelly-body refinement. I did not turn the Jelly-body refinement on. Thanks Ros On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:08 PM, aaleshin aales...@burnham.org wrote: Hi Uma, Which sigma do you mean? The one for Jelly-body