Re: [ccp4bb] Sftools and Phaser compatibility issues - continued Summary

2010-09-03 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Of Miller, Mitchell D. Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:31 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Sftools and Phaser compatibility issues - continued FYI -- The :h suffix for R3 is described in the IUCr symmetry cif (intl tables vol G chapter 4.7) under _space_group.reference_setting

[ccp4bb] Sftools and Phaser compatibility issues - continued

2010-09-02 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear bulletin board, After downloading and recompiling the complete CCP4 package (we had the precompiled 32bits version on our 64bits machines) we were able to apply the patches of Claus and the problem case P21221 went through without problems. However, with the next problem case tested,

Re: [ccp4bb] Sftools and Phaser compatibility issues - continued

2010-09-02 Thread Phil Evans
I'm sure it would be a good thing if SFTOOLS recognised all possible space groups, but I wonder why you are using SFTOOLS at all. I've almost never had the need to use it myself. Space group changes and many other things can be done with CAD for example Phil On 2 Sep 2010, at 13:31,

Re: [ccp4bb] Sftools and Phaser compatibility issues - continued

2010-09-02 Thread Herman . Schreuder
neccessary, but use other program for more serious purposes. Herman -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Phil Evans Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 3:02 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Sftools and Phaser compatibility

Re: [ccp4bb] Sftools and Phaser compatibility issues - continued

2010-09-02 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:31 AM, herman.schreu...@sanofi-aventis.com wrote: The other question is: why does phaser write 'R 3 :H' in the mtz? When the problem with the P21221 space group first popped up last year, Randy told me that space group numbers like 2018 are non-standard, and that

Re: [ccp4bb] Sftools and Phaser compatibility issues - continued

2010-09-02 Thread Kevin Cowtan
Well, CCP4 programs using the core libraries should ignore the spacegroup symbol and use the operators instead, which bypasses the whole problem. I would advise anyone using the CCP4 libraries in their own programs to do the same. That works for mtz and map, but not for pdb files of course.

Re: [ccp4bb] Sftools and Phaser compatibility issues - continued

2010-09-02 Thread Miller, Mitchell D.
bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Nat Echols Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:06 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Sftools and Phaser compatibility issues - continued On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:31 AM, herman.schreu...@sanofi-aventis.com wrote: The other question