Dear all,

I have refined a 2.5 A structure (P212121, a=29, b=56, c=58) with Refmac/TLS to an R/Rfree of 20.9/23.7. Everything seems to run smoothly, maps look nice. Total B-facors for protein (residual+TLS) after TLSANL are in the 25 to 50 A^2 range. However, water B-factors are refined to unreasonably low values, many hitting bottom at 2.0 A^2.

A refmac refinement without TLS easily fixes the water B-factors to reasonable values, but gives 2-3% higher R-factors. (I have attached the relavant parts of the PDB file from TLSANL)

Thanks for your help.
Clemens

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HEADER                                        ----XX-XXX-XX   xxxx
COMPND    --REMARK   3
REMARK   3
REMARK   3 REFINEMENT.
REMARK   3   PROGRAM     : REFMAC 5.5.0072
REMARK   3   AUTHORS     : MURSHUDOV,VAGIN,DODSON
REMARK   3
REMARK   3    REFINEMENT TARGET : MAXIMUM LIKELIHOOD
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  DATA USED IN REFINEMENT.
REMARK   3   RESOLUTION RANGE HIGH (ANGSTROMS) :   2.44
REMARK   3   RESOLUTION RANGE LOW  (ANGSTROMS) :  20.00
REMARK   3   DATA CUTOFF            (SIGMA(F)) : NONE
REMARK   3   COMPLETENESS FOR RANGE        (%) : 100.00
REMARK   3   NUMBER OF REFLECTIONS             :    3709
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  FIT TO DATA USED IN REFINEMENT.
REMARK   3   CROSS-VALIDATION METHOD          : THROUGHOUT
REMARK   3   FREE R VALUE TEST SET SELECTION  : RANDOM
REMARK   3   R VALUE     (WORKING + TEST SET) : 0.20987
REMARK   3   R VALUE            (WORKING SET) :  0.20853
REMARK   3   FREE R VALUE                     :  0.23739
REMARK   3   FREE R VALUE TEST SET SIZE   (%) :  4.5
REMARK   3   FREE R VALUE TEST SET COUNT      :   176
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  FIT IN THE HIGHEST RESOLUTION BIN.
REMARK   3   TOTAL NUMBER OF BINS USED           :      20
REMARK   3   BIN RESOLUTION RANGE HIGH           :    2.436
REMARK   3   BIN RESOLUTION RANGE LOW            :    2.498
REMARK   3   REFLECTION IN BIN     (WORKING SET) :      257
REMARK   3   BIN COMPLETENESS (WORKING+TEST) (%) :   100.00
REMARK   3   BIN R VALUE           (WORKING SET) :    0.270
REMARK   3   BIN FREE R VALUE SET COUNT          :       12
REMARK   3   BIN FREE R VALUE                    :    0.447
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  NUMBER OF NON-HYDROGEN ATOMS USED IN REFINEMENT.
REMARK   3   ALL ATOMS                :      739
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  B VALUES.
REMARK   3   FROM WILSON PLOT           (A**2) : NULL
REMARK   3   MEAN B VALUE      (OVERALL, A**2) :  31.763
REMARK   3   OVERALL ANISOTROPIC B VALUE.
REMARK   3    B11 (A**2) :    -0.79
REMARK   3    B22 (A**2) :     0.73
REMARK   3    B33 (A**2) :     0.06
REMARK   3    B12 (A**2) :     0.00
REMARK   3    B13 (A**2) :     0.00
REMARK   3    B23 (A**2) :     0.00
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  ESTIMATED OVERALL COORDINATE ERROR.
REMARK   3   ESU BASED ON R VALUE                            (A):   0.511
REMARK   3   ESU BASED ON FREE R VALUE                       (A):   0.262
REMARK   3   ESU BASED ON MAXIMUM LIKELIHOOD                 (A):   0.200
REMARK   3   ESU FOR B VALUES BASED ON MAXIMUM LIKELIHOOD (A**2):  19.990
REMARK   3
REMARK   3 CORRELATION COEFFICIENTS.
REMARK   3   CORRELATION COEFFICIENT FO-FC      :   0.935
REMARK   3   CORRELATION COEFFICIENT FO-FC FREE :   0.909
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  RMS DEVIATIONS FROM IDEAL VALUES        COUNT    RMS    WEIGHT
REMARK   3   BOND LENGTHS REFINED ATOMS        (A):   708 ; 0.007 ; 0.022
REMARK   3   BOND ANGLES REFINED ATOMS   (DEGREES):   961 ; 1.025 ; 1.997
REMARK   3   TORSION ANGLES, PERIOD 1    (DEGREES):    89 ; 4.288 ; 5.000
REMARK   3   TORSION ANGLES, PERIOD 2    (DEGREES):    28 ;27.435 ;26.429
REMARK   3   TORSION ANGLES, PERIOD 3    (DEGREES):   126 ;16.669 ;15.000
REMARK   3   TORSION ANGLES, PERIOD 4    (DEGREES):     2 ;26.600 ;15.000
REMARK   3   CHIRAL-CENTER RESTRAINTS       (A**3):   114 ; 0.063 ; 0.200
REMARK   3   GENERAL PLANES REFINED ATOMS      (A):   515 ; 0.003 ; 0.022
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  ISOTROPIC THERMAL FACTOR RESTRAINTS.     COUNT   RMS    WEIGHT
REMARK   3   MAIN-CHAIN BOND REFINED ATOMS  (A**2):   457 ; 0.230 ; 1.500
REMARK   3   MAIN-CHAIN ANGLE REFINED ATOMS (A**2):   734 ; 0.465 ; 2.000
REMARK   3   SIDE-CHAIN BOND REFINED ATOMS  (A**2):   251 ; 0.796 ; 3.000
REMARK   3   SIDE-CHAIN ANGLE REFINED ATOMS (A**2):   227 ; 1.426 ; 4.500
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  NCS RESTRAINTS STATISTICS
REMARK   3   NUMBER OF NCS GROUPS : NULL
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  TWIN DETAILS
REMARK   3   NUMBER OF TWIN DOMAINS  : NULL
REMARK   3
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  TLS DETAILS
REMARK   3   NUMBER OF TLS GROUPS  :    3
REMARK   3   ATOM RECORD CONTAINS SUM OF TLS AND RESIDUAL B FACTORS
REMARK   3   ANISOU RECORD CONTAINS SUM OF TLS AND RESIDUAL U FACTORS
REMARK   3
REMARK   3   TLS GROUP :     1
REMARK   3    NUMBER OF COMPONENTS GROUP :    1
REMARK   3    COMPONENTS        C SSSEQI   TO  C SSSEQI
REMARK   3    RESIDUE RANGE :   A      544        A      602
REMARK   3    ORIGIN FOR THE GROUP (A):  -1.5600   2.1310  -6.4040
REMARK   3    T TENSOR
REMARK   3      T11:   0.1987 T22:   0.1032
REMARK   3      T33:   0.3334 T12:   0.0148
REMARK   3      T13:   0.0192 T23:   0.0107
REMARK   3    L TENSOR
REMARK   3      L11:   3.0232 L22:   9.5047
REMARK   3      L33:   4.8404 L12:  -1.4527
REMARK   3      L13:  -0.6037 L23:   4.9346
REMARK   3    S TENSOR
REMARK   3      S11:  -0.1419 S12:   0.1446 S13:  -0.3926
REMARK   3      S21:   0.0466 S22:   0.1236 S23:   0.3172
REMARK   3      S31:   0.5765 S32:   0.0337 S33:   0.0183
REMARK   3
REMARK   3   TLS GROUP :     2
REMARK   3    NUMBER OF COMPONENTS GROUP :    1
REMARK   3    COMPONENTS        C SSSEQI   TO  C SSSEQI
REMARK   3    RESIDUE RANGE :   A      603        A      618
REMARK   3    ORIGIN FOR THE GROUP (A):  -1.8300  16.9090 -10.8800
REMARK   3    T TENSOR
REMARK   3      T11:   0.3257 T22:   0.1237
REMARK   3      T33:   0.5111 T12:   0.0425
REMARK   3      T13:   0.1163 T23:   0.0512
REMARK   3    L TENSOR
REMARK   3      L11:   1.6795 L22:   8.6130
REMARK   3      L33:  12.8859 L12:  -2.8217
REMARK   3      L13:   2.6868 L23:  -6.1187
REMARK   3    S TENSOR
REMARK   3      S11:   0.3353 S12:   0.0667 S13:   0.6777
REMARK   3      S21:  -1.1822 S22:  -0.2639 S23:  -0.3889
REMARK   3      S31:  -0.1764 S32:  -0.3374 S33:  -0.0715
REMARK   3
REMARK   3   TLS GROUP :     3
REMARK   3    NUMBER OF COMPONENTS GROUP :    1
REMARK   3    COMPONENTS        C SSSEQI   TO  C SSSEQI
REMARK   3    RESIDUE RANGE :   B       55        B       70
REMARK   3    ORIGIN FOR THE GROUP (A): -14.5620   8.6240  -5.7360
REMARK   3    T TENSOR
REMARK   3      T11:   0.1819 T22:   0.1925
REMARK   3      T33:   0.3593 T12:   0.0608
REMARK   3      T13:  -0.1222 T23:  -0.0613
REMARK   3    L TENSOR
REMARK   3      L11:  17.1809 L22:   8.0907
REMARK   3      L33:  11.5783 L12:   4.7167
REMARK   3      L13:  -8.6740 L23:  -5.2009
REMARK   3    S TENSOR
REMARK   3      S11:  -0.3434 S12:   0.1788 S13:  -0.1980
REMARK   3      S21:  -0.5824 S22:   0.2303 S23:   0.3357
REMARK   3      S31:   0.1582 S32:  -1.1131 S33:   0.1131
REMARK   3
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  BULK SOLVENT MODELLING.
REMARK   3   METHOD USED :  MASK
REMARK   3   PARAMETERS FOR MASK CALCULATION
REMARK   3   VDW PROBE RADIUS   :   1.40
REMARK   3   ION PROBE RADIUS   :   0.80
REMARK   3   SHRINKAGE RADIUS   :   0.80
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  OTHER REFINEMENT REMARKS:
REMARK   3  HYDROGENS HAVE BEEN ADDED IN THE RIDING POSITIONS
REMARK   3  U VALUES      : RESIDUAL ONLY
REMARK   3
CRYST1   29.110   56.860   58.030  90.00  90.00  90.00 P 21 21 21
SCALE1      0.034352  0.000000  0.000000        0.00000
SCALE2      0.000000  0.017587  0.000000        0.00000
SCALE3      0.000000  0.000000  0.017232        0.00000
ATOM      1  N   PRO A 544       4.309  -5.412   0.830  1.00 48.24           N
ANISOU    1  N   PRO A 544     8944   3209   6175      0      0      0       N
ATOM      2  CA  PRO A 544       5.330  -5.406  -0.215  1.00 47.23           C
ANISOU    2  CA  PRO A 544     8267   3324   6355      0      0      0       C
ATOM      3  CB  PRO A 544       6.497  -6.154   0.445  1.00 51.83           C
ANISOU    3  CB  PRO A 544     9168   3699   6824      0      0      0       C
ATOM      4  CG  PRO A 544       5.844  -7.034   1.542  1.00 55.52           C
ANISOU    4  CG  PRO A 544    10558   3665   6872      0      0      0       C
ATOM      5  CD  PRO A 544       4.395  -6.616   1.678  1.00 53.15           C
ANISOU    5  CD  PRO A 544    10367   3339   6487      0      0      0       C
ATOM      6  C   PRO A 544       4.854  -6.130  -1.486  1.00 45.86           C
ANISOU    6  C   PRO A 544     7943   3090   6392      0      0      0       C
ATOM      7  O   PRO A 544       5.152  -7.314  -1.678  1.00 48.59           O
ANISOU    7  O   PRO A 544     8563   3153   6744      0      0      0       O
ATOM      8  N   LEU A 545       4.115  -5.416  -2.337  1.00 41.94           N
ANISOU    8  N   LEU A 545     7046   2838   6050      0      0      0       N
ATOM      9  CA  LEU A 545       3.521  -5.995  -3.551  1.00 40.40           C
ANISOU    9  CA  LEU A 545     6722   2604   6023      0      0      0       C
ATOM     10  CB  LEU A 545       2.454  -5.062  -4.131  1.00 37.30           C
ANISOU   10  CB  LEU A 545     6025   2433   5713      0      0      0       C
ATOM     11  CG  LEU A 545       0.971  -5.409  -4.033  1.00 37.29           C
ANISOU   11  CG  LEU A 545     6198   2227   5744      0      0      0       C
ATOM     12  CD1 LEU A 545       0.169  -4.308  -4.687  1.00 34.32           C
ANISOU   12  CD1 LEU A 545     5425   2133   5480      0      0      0       C
ATOM     13  CD2 LEU A 545       0.674  -6.739  -4.700  1.00 39.63           C
ANISOU   13  CD2 LEU A 545     6657   2245   6155      0      0      0       C
ATOM     14  C   LEU A 545       4.532  -6.296  -4.647  1.00 40.30           C
ANISOU   14  C   LEU A 545     6394   2731   6189      0      0      0       C
ATOM     15  O   LEU A 545       5.296  -5.415  -5.049  1.00 39.28           O
ANISOU   15  O   LEU A 545     5851   2912   6160      0      0      0       O

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ATOM    721  O   HOH Z  26       4.331  15.110   2.443  1.00  2.00           O
ATOM    722  O   HOH Z  27       1.264  -6.899 -12.249  1.00  2.00           O
ATOM    723  O   HOH Z  28     -16.512   7.213  -5.802  1.00  2.00           O
ATOM    724  O   HOH Z  29      10.966   0.572  -2.021  1.00  2.00           O
ATOM    725  O   HOH Z  30      -1.212  -6.621 -13.323  1.00 14.85           O
ATOM    726  O   HOH Z  31      -3.187  -8.577 -15.238  1.00  2.00           O
ATOM    727  O   HOH Z  32       1.541  19.977  -9.823  1.00  2.00           O
ATOM    728  O   HOH Z  33     -18.041   1.731   2.138  1.00  2.00           O
ATOM    729  O   HOH Z  34     -15.674  13.690 -10.888  1.00 10.07           O
ATOM    730  O   HOH Z  35      -6.429   9.025 -15.088  1.00  2.00           O
ATOM    731  OW0 HOH Z  36      -8.068  11.911   2.520  1.00  2.00           O
ATOM    732  OW0 HOH Z  37      -8.131  21.050   1.317  1.00  2.94           O
ATOM    733  OW0 HOH Z  38       7.360 -10.570  -9.323  1.00  2.00           O
ATOM    734  OW0 HOH Z  39      -3.377 -10.981 -14.550  1.00  2.00           O
ATOM    735  OW0 HOH Z  40     -10.173  19.052  -0.857  1.00 13.04           O
ATOM    736  OW0 HOH Z  41     -12.070   1.106  -0.308  1.00  2.00           O
ATOM    737  OW0 HOH Z  42     -13.008  21.323  -8.964  1.00  2.00           O
ATOM    738  OW0 HOH Z  43       2.014  -2.216 -18.360  1.00 23.56           O
ATOM    739  OW0 HOH Z  45      -9.727  -3.842  -8.213  1.00  7.42           O
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Dr. Clemens Grimm
Institut für Biochemie
Biozentrum der Universität Würzburg
Am Hubland
D-97074 Würzburg
Germany
e-mail: clemens.gr...@biozentrum.uni-wuerzburg.de
phone : +49 0931 888 84031
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