[ccp4bb] low resolution refinement

2018-05-24 Thread Sebastiano Pasqualato
Hi all, just be sure: does Low Resolution Refinement Pipeline in ccp4 always use Free_R_flag=0? Thanks, s -- Sebastiano Pasqualato, PhD Crystallography Unit Department of Experimental Oncology European Institute of Oncology IFOM-IEO Campus via Adamello, 16 20139 - Milano Italy tel +39 02

[ccp4bb] low-resolution refinement

2012-09-25 Thread Andreas Förster
Dear all, I'm making first steps in the desolate world of low-resolution refinement. With dodgy 3.8A data, the magic of Phaser was able to solve the structure of a complex by MR with its components as MR models. Jelly-body refinement does wonders for R free. There are three issues that I

Re: [ccp4bb] low-resolution refinement

2012-09-25 Thread Robert Nicholls
Hi Andreas, In your case, it sounds like a reasonable strategy would be to use external restraints for a few rounds of refinement (as you have done), but then release them and instead use jelly-body restraints. This two-stage process will help to initially hold your model in a sensible

Re: [ccp4bb] low-resolution refinement

2012-09-25 Thread Pete Meyer
3) Activating map sharpening results in mtz files that look just normal and open in coot after the typical map calculation break, but no maps are displayed. This is independent of the sharpening factor I choose (between 5 and 60). I haven't used coot for map sharpening, but using the

Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement

2011-07-14 Thread ccp4
Roberto steiner has told you how to use these new REFMAC5.6 features, Rob Nicholls has suggested how to generate secondary structure restraints, and Martyn Winn given a page to install a new interface to make it easier to use them.. But with such limited data it isnt surprising that the FreeR

Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement

2011-07-12 Thread Martyn Winn
, Robbie Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:59:29 +0800 From: caiq...@gmail.com Subject: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Dear all, Recently, I refine two low resolution structures in refmac 5.5. Their resolutions

Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement

2011-07-11 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Quixu, I also used phenix.refine with the reference model ( I have high resolution model for one domain of the low resolution protein) and secondary structure restraints, but it seams the same. Any suggestion? BTW, is that simulator annealing not suitable for low resolution structure? I

Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement

2011-07-10 Thread CAI Qixu
From: caiq...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:44:25 +0800 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement To: robbie_joos...@hotmail.com CC: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk Hi, Thank you for your suggestion. Could you tell me what is riding hydrogens

Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement

2011-07-10 Thread Robbie Joosten
When in doubt, try both. In my personal experience, adding hydrogens always works. Especially at low resolution. But don't take my word for it, experiment a little. Cheers, Robbie Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:01:59 +0800 From: caiq...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement

[ccp4bb] low resolution refinement

2011-07-09 Thread Qixu Cai
Dear all, Recently, I refine two low resolution structures in refmac 5.5. Their resolutions are 3A and 3.5A respectively. For 3A structure, after MR by phaser and rigidbody refinementrestraint refinement by refmac5.5, I got R factor 25% and R free 35%. And then each time, after my model

Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement

2011-07-09 Thread Elizabeth McSweeney
Hi I highly recommend reading the two Brunger papers below: they will explain the important factors to take note of when refining low-resolution structures.� I found them very useful when I was learning about low-resolution refinement. I would suggest using the deformable elastic network with

Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement

2011-07-09 Thread Robbie Joosten
of optimizing the matrix weight yourself (start with 0.05 and compare refinements for higher and lower values). HTH, Robbie Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:59:29 +0800 From: caiq...@gmail.com Subject: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement To: CCP4BB

Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement

2011-07-09 Thread CAI Qixu
Hi, Thank you for your papers. I will read them carefully. 2011/7/9 Elizabeth McSweeney elizabeth.mcswee...@duke.edu Hi I highly recommend reading the two Brunger papers below: they will explain the important factors to take note of when refining low-resolution structures. I found

Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement

2011-07-09 Thread CAI Qixu
and lower values). HTH, Robbie Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:59:29 +0800 From: caiq...@gmail.com Subject: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Dear all, Recently, I refine two low resolution structures in refmac 5.5

Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement

2011-07-09 Thread Robbie Joosten
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement To: robbie_joos...@hotmail.com CC: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk Hi, Thank you for your suggestion. Could you tell me what is riding hydrogens? And it seems there is not reference model function in refmac5.6? 2011/7/9 Robbie Joosten

Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement

2011-07-09 Thread Rob Nicholls
:44:25 +0800 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement To: robbie_joos...@hotmail.com CC: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk Hi, Thank you for your suggestion. Could you tell me what is riding hydrogens? And it seems there is not reference model function in refmac5.6? 2011/7/9

Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement

2011-07-09 Thread Steiner, Roberto
of optimizing the matrix weight yourself (start with 0.05 and compare refinements for higher and lower values). HTH, Robbie Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:59:29 +0800 From: caiq...@gmail.commailto:caiq...@gmail.com Subject: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement

Re: [ccp4bb] Low resolution refinement

2011-05-20 Thread Linda Schuldt
Dear Joane, we had a case, where we had five molecules in the assymmetric unit where the biological functional unit was a homotrimer. So we had one non-crystallographic trimer and two monomers, which were located along the 3-fold symmetry axis of space group I213. One of the monomers also showed

[ccp4bb] Low resolution refinement

2011-05-19 Thread Joane Kathelen Rustiguel
Dear all I am refining a structure at 3.4 A resolution that contains 3 molecules in the a.u. The chain A sits on a 2-fold crystallographic axis forming the dimeric functional structure expected for this class of proteins. The other two chains B and C, which also form the functional dimer, seem

Re: [ccp4bb] Low resolution refinement

2011-05-19 Thread Gregory Verdon
Missing density could point to incomplete data, how is the completeness at high and low resolution? Sent from my iPhone On May 19, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Jon Schuermann schue...@anl.gov wrote: Dear Joane, Bert's recommendations are very good, but I'd like to add a little caution. If just

Re: [ccp4bb] Low resolution refinement

2011-05-19 Thread David Schuller
This reminds me of: Pig heart short chain L-3-hydroxyacyl-CoA dehydrogenase revisited: Sequence analysis and crystal structure determination Barycki JJ, O'Brien LK, Birktoft JJ, Strauss AW, Banaszak LJ Protein Science (Oct 1999) Vol 8, pp 2010-2018. In which the protein in question also had

Re: [ccp4bb] Low resolution refinement

2011-05-19 Thread Eric Larson
Dear Joane, We have had very good luck refining low resolution structures with dramatic improvement using several newish options in refmac - particularly when NCS is present! Those options are jelly body restraints, automatic NCS restraints, and map sharpening. Here is a description