Re: [ccp4bb] yellow crystals

2011-11-06 Thread Artem Evdokimov
When we were working on PheRS we noticed that our protein preps (and crystals) had shades of color: sometimes they were pinkish and sometimes yellowish, or even blueish (and often colorless)! We solved the structure eventually and found a new metal-binding microdomain previously not found in these

Re: [ccp4bb] yellow crystals

2011-11-06 Thread Adrian Goldman
I agree: light yellow (straw-yellow) proteins often indicate metal-binding - it's typically iron III. Zn salts tend to be colourless, and the Mn-pink is too pale to be visible at protein (mM) concentrations. This can be determined by doing flame-spectroscopy, if you don't mind destroying your

Re: [ccp4bb] yellow crystals

2011-11-06 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Cobalt leaching of TALON resin perhaps ? Should be more orange type of color, but it depends on the concentration. In any event if you shoot those crystals run a scan to find out what metal is bound and use it for phasing if you have access to a MAD line. Jürgen On Nov 6, 2011, at 9:56 AM,

[ccp4bb] yellow crystals

2011-11-05 Thread Caitlyn Claire Yeykal
Hi -- has anyone had crystals that are colored in regular (unpolarized) light? Mine are yellow, and I'm not aware of anything in the buffer conditions that might cause this. I read online that glutaraldehyde can turn protein crystals a golden color, but as far as I know there isn't any

Re: [ccp4bb] yellow crystals

2011-11-05 Thread Nat Echols
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Caitlyn Claire Yeykal cait...@uchicago.edu wrote: Hi -- has anyone had crystals that are colored in regular (unpolarized) light?  Mine are yellow, and I'm not aware of anything in the buffer conditions that might cause this.  I read online that glutaraldehyde can

Re: [ccp4bb] yellow crystals

2011-11-05 Thread Caitlyn Claire Yeykal
Thanks for all the replies -- there are no suggestions in the literature or in crystallized or predicted domain structures that this protein binds a cofactor, and, although I did purify it in insect cells, PAGE gels and activity assays support the assertion that it's not ferritin. Nobody

Re: [ccp4bb] yellow crystals

2011-11-05 Thread REGINALD MCNULTY
It's also possible that there's oxidation in the buffer causing the yellow color. I'm not sure how common this is with HEPES. But I see it all the time with MOPS. Alternatively, does the yellow color bind the column during purification? If so, then it sounds like a co-purified flavin or

Re: [ccp4bb] yellow crystals

2011-11-05 Thread Craig A. Bingman
In another thread, you indicated that there were no identifiable cofactor binding sites in your protein, so we are down to less common situations. Some proteins are spontaneously decorated with pyridoxal on surface lysine residues. In some cases, this has absolutely nothing to do with the