Re: [ccp4bb] Difference map

2010-09-29 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Hi Intekhab Alam, an Fobs-Fobs' map usually works only if the two crystals are isomorphous, which means that there are neither large cell constant changes nor any other larger structural changes (like overall rotations, domain movements, other rearrangements) than the bound compound (ligand,

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference map

2010-09-29 Thread Eleanor Dodson
That seems the right procedure. I presume the two crystals have similar cell, etc? What is the Riso plot from scaleit look like - if it is 55% + then there is no isomorphism, but if it is 30% then the map should be reasonable. which phase did you use for the map calculation? Eleanor

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-18 Thread Doug Ohlendorf
F's) is cleaner. Doug -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tim Gruene Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:39 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images I know that sometimes Fo(complex)-Fo(apo) cannot be done

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-18 Thread Tim Gruene
...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tim Gruene Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:39 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images I know that sometimes Fo(complex)-Fo(apo) cannot be done because of nonisomorphism. We've had a lot of success with this with the dioxygenases because

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-17 Thread Doug Ohlendorf
Andy, One important thing if your complex crystals are isomorphous with apo is to use nFo(complex) - Fo(apo). These maps give the maximum information as the uninterpretable 'stuff' in the Fo-Fc map is likely quite similar in both crystal forms so the difference signal should be cleaner. Douglas

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-17 Thread vincent Chaptal
Andy, on the practical point of view, you can create such images using Pymol and the command 'carve'. load composite_omit-ccp4.map, map-to-display, format=ccp4 isomesh mesh, map-to-display, 1.5, resi 45, carve=3 color blue, mesh this will display the map at 1.5 sigma, at 3 angstroms around the

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-17 Thread ANDY DODDS
Wow, you can read too! Impressive. Indeed, it seems Larson et al did use Pymol, as have I. The question to the board was what they use, so that I might experiment with other methods. Any other helpful suggestions, please don't hesitate Jon. Thanks to all for their responses. A 2009/6/17

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-17 Thread Ian Tickle
to reduce radiation damage to an acceptable level. Cheers -- Ian -Original Message- From: owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk [mailto:owner-ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Doug Ohlendorf Sent: 17 June 2009 16:41 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: RE: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images Andy

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-17 Thread Doug Ohlendorf
: http://biosci.cbs.umn.edu/bmbb/ohlen_lab/index.html -Original Message- From: Ian Tickle [mailto:i.tic...@astex-therapeutics.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:08 PM To: Doug Ohlendorf Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: RE: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images Hi Douglas Do you have

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map images

2009-06-17 Thread Tim Gruene
I know that sometimes Fo(complex)-Fo(apo) cannot be done because of nonisomorphism. We've had a lot of success with this with the dioxygenases because there is no large scale alteration in the active site. As for the technique itself, Brian Matthews drilled this into me when I was a postdoc in

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map in COOT - Possible lignad but clash with structure?

2007-12-28 Thread David Briggs
Covalent modification?? Bias in 2fo-fc map? Can you show us a pic of offending density? Dave On 28/12/2007, Brenda Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am fairly new to this lark so please forgive me if this question is unclear, but it is really puzzling me. I have used phaser to

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map in COOT - Possible lignad but clash with structure?

2007-12-28 Thread Artem Evdokimov
What's the resolution? At low res it is possible to miss a subtle movement of e.g. some sidechains which are being replaced by the ligand. What quality parameters did the MR have? Can you omit the entire ligand binding site, refine, and re-generate the map - what does it look like after that? A

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map in COOT - Possible lignad but clash with structure?

2007-12-28 Thread Lijun Liu
There is another possibility that your ligand is not fully occupied, if the binding site of protein endures an apparent change when bound by ligand. Lijun On Dec 28, 2007, at 7:55 AM, Brenda Patterson wrote: Hello, I am fairly new to this lark so please forgive me if this question is

Re: [ccp4bb] Difference Map in COOT - Possible lignad but clash with structure?

2007-12-28 Thread William Scott
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:55:39 + Brenda Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am fairly new to this lark No problem. With a name like Patterson, your future is guaranteed (unless of course you see everything in the world with intensity but no phase). I have a