Re: [ccp4bb] modelling with sad/mad data

2007-03-20 Thread Peng Zhang
Hi, Peter, Does the radition damage have such a large effect? There are many positive peaks seeing from the difference map, seems abnormal. But I have seen such difference maps before which are OK for modeling and refining. Actually when I try to modelling the Se-met into the positive peaks, the

Re: [ccp4bb] a question about O

2007-03-20 Thread Jiamu Du
Got it. Turn down the resolution of the monitor. The characters will be large enough to see. But the map looks not so soomth as before. On 3/20/07, Jiamu Du <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear All: I have a question about the new version O.v11. In the new version, the characters displayed on the t

Re: [ccp4bb] modelling with sad/mad data

2007-03-20 Thread Petrus H Zwart
Hi Peng Zhang, The presence of radiation damage might cause some problems. Do so see any obvious features in the difference map? Another problem (although I doubt it would cause such a big difference) might be the fact that f' andf f" prime are incorrect. Try and refine them (CNS or phenix.refin

Re: [ccp4bb] modelling with sad/mad data

2007-03-20 Thread Peng Zhang
Maybe I did not make the questions clear, which leading to the misleadings. Firstly, I have collected the mad data and get the phase at synchrotron, the phased Se is quite good for modelling, and get over 70% of the molecule run with resolve autobuilding.The density seems also good for building. Bu

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4i error Mac OS

2007-03-20 Thread Ulrich Genick
Hi it seems I overestimated what's in my little mac mini. Its a g4 not a g5, so the g5 binaries would not really be expected to work. Thanks for the responses Ulrich

[ccp4bb] ccp4i error on Mac OS

2007-03-20 Thread Ulrich Genick
Hi, I just installed ccp4 6.0.2 with ccp4i 1.4.4.2 on a mac mini. no matter what little job I try to run (importing mmCIF file, calculating structure factors from pdb), the execution fails with a note in the log file saying: has failed with error message child killed: illegal instruction **

Re: [ccp4bb] Validate tool pdb structure

2007-03-20 Thread Ibrahim M. Moustafa
Actually, the structure is not mine. I just wanted to check the structure before using it for my work! The unit of the structure is: a = 141.59, b = 141.59, c = 43.68 alpha = 90.00, beta = 90.00, gamma = 120.00 So, it is H3 not R3! Checking the structure after editing the space

Re: [ccp4bb] coot and stereochemistry

2007-03-20 Thread Dale Tronrud
I'm not a big fan of restraining chiral volumes, except for models based on low resolution data (maybe up to 2.7A). In my experience, if a refinement results in the flipping of a chiral center the true solution is almost never to flip it back. If a CA flips then probably a neighboring peptide

[ccp4bb] 2008 Gordon Research Conference on Diffraction Methods in Structural Biology

2007-03-20 Thread Elspeth Garman
Call For Speakers Gordon Research Conference on Diffraction Methods in Structural Biology July 13-18, 2008 Bates College, Lewiston, Maine, USA Co-Chairs: Elspeth Garman & Andrew Leslie The 2008 Gordon Research Conference on Diffraction Methods in Structural Bio

Re: [ccp4bb] Validate tool pdb structure

2007-03-20 Thread Kim Henrick
are you mixing R3 with H3 ? in the current pdb R3 has a=b=c, al=be=ga while H3 has a=b, al=90, be=90, ga=120 this was not consistently used in the earlier pdb examples REMARK 290 CRYSTALLOGRAPHIC SYMMETRY REMARK 290 SYMMETRY OPERATORS FOR SPACE GROUP: R 3 REMARK 290 SYMOP SYM

[ccp4bb] Validate tool pdb structure

2007-03-20 Thread Ibrahim M. Moustafa
Dear All, I wanted to check some structure using the validate server http://deposit.pdb.org/validate/ In the validation summary file I got a list of close contacts based on crystal symmetry:

[ccp4bb] Meeting: Micro-Crystals, Micro-Beams, and Multiple Crystals

2007-03-20 Thread Richard Gillilan
In case anyone here did not hear about our upcoming session on microcrystallography, here is some information. Please note that the ACA has extended the deadline for abstract submission to April 1. We are still in the process of choosing final speakers, so if you have interesting science or

[ccp4bb] Duration of a phaser job

2007-03-20 Thread Michele Lunelli
Dear all, I am running a very long phaser job (using the keyword FINAL SELECT ALL). It found and refined 30370 solutions, and now it is in the very last stage (PRUNE DUPLICATES). How long could take this step on a machine with a xeon 3.2GHz cpu? Days, weeks, or months? I have no clue from the

Re: [ccp4bb] A bit of history: John W Backus obit

2007-03-20 Thread Peter Keller
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Robert Sweet wrote: I'm pretty sure that the crystallographer was David Sayre. Indeed it was. He is mentioned explicitly in this article: http://inventors.about.com/od/bstartinventors/a/John_Backus_4.htm Regards, Peter.

Re: [ccp4bb] A bit of history: John W Backus obit [Broadcast]

2007-03-20 Thread Soisson, Stephen Michael
Regarding David Sayre, Ed Lattman once opined in a Sayre's Equation lecture to graduate students that if only David Sayre would focus his attention on macromolecular crystallography again, that perhaps the phase problem would be solved. Lofty praise indeed. Thanks for the anecdote Bob. Steve

Re: [ccp4bb] Generate Random phase set.

2007-03-20 Thread Bart Hazes
SFTOOLS has a random number generator that produces a uniform distribution between 0 and 1, which you can than use in different ways. You could then select all non-centric reflections and asign their phase as RanU*360. For the centric reflections you can first set them to the P-variable in the

Re: [ccp4bb] A bit of history: John W Backus obit

2007-03-20 Thread Robert Sweet
I'm pretty sure that the crystallographer was David Sayre. I also believe (not documented well enough for wikipedia, but perhaps for here) that IBM were so pleased with this performance that they made David an IBM Fellow, which meant that he could do anything he wanted for the rest of his life.

Re: [ccp4bb] Warning messages from Refmac.

2007-03-20 Thread Ian Tickle
All - I'm refining some structures in SG P22121 and I lots of warning msgs from Refmac: "===> Warning: No such space group in ASYLIM". The job seems to run fine & I can't see anything untoward with the results or the output files, so I was just wondering whether I need be concerned about the mes

Re: [ccp4bb] Generate Random phase set.

2007-03-20 Thread Eleanor Dodson
You can do that to some extent by scattering random atoms about and calculating phases from them.. Then the centrics will be sensible. That is how some direct methods programs get their "random starting set" of phases.. Depends on how flat you want the starting map to be Eleanor David Briggs

Re: [ccp4bb] A bit of history: John W Backus obit

2007-03-20 Thread Bart Hazes
The storey also made it to the CNN business page and they add... The Fortran programming language, which was a huge leap forward in easing the creation of computer software, was released in 1957, said the report. Backus launched his research project at IBM (Charts) four years earlier, assemb

[ccp4bb] [Fwd: Re: [ccp4bb] question about redundancy]

2007-03-20 Thread Bart Hazes
Hi Li, There is nothing wrong with your opinion the expected redundancy is indeed 4 because, as you say, each reflection intersects the Ewald sphere twice, once through the top and once through the bottom (redundancy will actually be a bit less due to the missing cusp region). Bart yang li wrot

[ccp4bb] Generate Random phase set.

2007-03-20 Thread David Briggs
Hi y'all. Excuse that rather "noddy" question, but I've been googling this for hours now and I've finally lost patience... How can I generate a random phase set for either a .mtz or .hkl (cns format) reflection file (if possbile with sensible values for centric reflections). That's it. Thanks

[ccp4bb] A bit of history: John W Backus obit

2007-03-20 Thread P.Artymiuk
A bit of history: NY Times obituary for John W. Backus, 82, developer of Fortran, without which CCP4 and much else would not have been possible. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/19/obituaries/20cnd-backus.html?ex=1332043200&en=adde3ee5a1875330&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink Pete A -

Re: [ccp4bb] OS X Scala SCALES file weirdness

2007-03-20 Thread pre
The scales files is opened NEW, then overwritten by REWINDing for each refinement cycle. It is not explicitly closed, but relies on the compiler correctly flushing & closing the file on exit. This may be a compiler bug I suppose. I can change Scala to close the file explicitly, which might fix t

Re: [ccp4bb] OS X Scala SCALES file weirdness

2007-03-20 Thread Winter, G (Graeme)
Hi Phil, Looking at the file it is clear that the end is missing - the files are identical to a certain point then the last few 0 values are missing and there is no newline at the end of the ppc version... I have just run it again on the firewire disk and got the same error, which is odd. So the

Re: [ccp4bb] OS X Scala SCALES file weirdness

2007-03-20 Thread pre
The SCALES file is plain text so you should be able to check it with an editor Phil > Hi Folks, > > Sorry this is slightly off topic. I have an OS X PPC mac mini and I have > noticed some very strange behaviour. When I run scala for one example > the scales file that is produced is exactly 16384 b

[ccp4bb] question about redundancy

2007-03-20 Thread yang li
Hi: I am confused by a idea for a long time, and it maybe an easy question. That is, if a cryst with p1 spacegroup, after 360 degree data collection, what the redundancy should be? I was told that it is 2, and the 2 are F(h,k,l) and F(-h,-k,-l), but I think if the reciprocal lattice rotated 360

[ccp4bb] OS X Scala SCALES file weirdness

2007-03-20 Thread Winter, G (Graeme)
Hi Folks, Sorry this is slightly off topic. I have an OS X PPC mac mini and I have noticed some very strange behaviour. When I run scala for one example the scales file that is produced is exactly 16384 bytes, and when I try and restore this scala dies. Now running the same scaling job on an intel

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 pdb format

2007-03-20 Thread Martyn Winn
CCP4 is a collaboration between many and varied authors, so the exact answer depends on which bit of the ccp4 interface you are talking about! Generally, most CCP4 programs will work with "standard" PDB files. The spacegroup on the CRYST1 line is only needed if a program can't get the symmetry inf

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 pdb format

2007-03-20 Thread Eleanor Dodson
yang li wrote: Hi: Now I need to input a heavy atom pdb file in the ccp4 interface, does ccp4 has a special format for all the programs in the package? I used heavy atom file from shelxd but it seemed not right. where can I get a model of such pdb file? Thanks! SHELX has its own interpretati

Re: [ccp4bb] Sketcher and stereochemistry

2007-03-20 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Whatever you do it is good practice to do your first run of refinement as Review Restraints" Under the Monitoring folder set the level to many (default medium) and set the sigma cut off for chirals to 3.00 say to get a god list Then run the job and you will get a list of violations of restraints

Re: [ccp4bb] coot and stereochemistry

2007-03-20 Thread Paul Emsley
On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 08:57 +0100, Laurent Maveyraud wrote: > Dear list, > > another question related to stereochemistry, but concerning coot. > When using the RSR zone button, which should "improve geometry and fit to > map", it seems that the geometry is not always improved : some chiral > cent

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 pdb format

2007-03-20 Thread Tim Gruene
You can run the pdb file through pdbset, supplying cell and spacegroup, that's probably the quickest way to fix it. Tim -- Tim Gruene Institut fuer anorganische Chemie Tammannstr. 4 D-37077 Goettingen GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, yang li wrote: Hi: Now I need to input a heavy

[ccp4bb] coot and stereochemistry

2007-03-20 Thread Laurent Maveyraud
Dear list, another question related to stereochemistry, but concerning coot. When using the RSR zone button, which should "improve geometry and fit to map", it seems that the geometry is not always improved : some chiral centers can be inverted. The surprising thing is that using the "regularize