Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4BB Digest - 12 Feb 2009 to 13 Feb 2009 (#2009-45)

2009-02-16 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Dear Ho, On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 04:45:29PM -0800, Ho-Leung Ng wrote: Can you elaborate on the effects of improper inclusion of low resolution (bogus?) reflections? Other than rejecting spots from obvious artifacts, it bothers me to discard data. But I can also see how a few inaccurate,

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4BB Digest - 12 Feb 2009 to 13 Feb 2009 (#2009-45)

2009-02-16 Thread Phil Evans
Just to expand a little on the beam stop problem: the outlier rejection algorithm in Scala ( I imagine in other programs) relies on a consensus, that is it essentially assumes that the majority of observations are correct (actually they are weighted by 1/ EstimatedVariance). This means that

[ccp4bb] Technician position available at IMP - Vienna, AUSTRIA

2009-02-16 Thread Stolt-bergner,Peggy
Dear All, A LABORATORY TECHNICIAN position is open at the Research Institute of Molecular Pathology (IMP) in Vienna, Austria, in the Group of Dr. Peggy Stolt-Bergner (http://www.imp.ac.at/research/peggy-stolt-bergner/) We are seeking a scientific Technician experienced in molecular biology and

[ccp4bb] Off-topic: ligand enrichment

2009-02-16 Thread Yingjie Peng
Dear guys, Sorry for the off-topic question. After I have solved my strucutre, I have found my target ligand bound at the potential binding site. Also, I have found that there are two more ligand molecules bound along the path from solvent to the binding site. I think this can enrich the ligand

Re: [ccp4bb] PEG3350-based cryoprotectant

2009-02-16 Thread Alfred Lammens
Hi Keith, I freezed my crystals with 35% PEG4000 as cryo. They grow in 16% PEG4000, 4% Isopropanol, 0.1 M Na-Acetate. I just put the hanging drop over 35% PEG4000, 4% Isopropanol, 0.1 M Na-Acetate and let it equilibrate over night. They diffracted even better than with other cryos - might be

Re: [ccp4bb] unstable refinement

2009-02-16 Thread Ian Tickle
Clemens, I know we've had this discussion several times before, but I'd like to take you up on the point you made that reducing Rfree-R is necessarily always a 'good thing'. Suppose the refinement had started from a point where Rfree was biased, e.g. the test set in use had previously been part

[ccp4bb] Refinement

2009-02-16 Thread Rana Refaey
Hi all I have two datasets of resolutions 1.6 and 1.65 Å both of the same molecule, the problem that i am facing is the refinement. The R factors are stuck at very high values 0.3329 and 0.3791 after restrained refinement, although the the map fits into the electron density very well. Regards,

[ccp4bb] Detector pitch, roll, yaw

2009-02-16 Thread jonathan elegheert
Dear bb, can somebody explain to me the exact definitions for detector roll, pitch and yaw? Can they be detector dependent or rather dependent on the beamline setup? Is there a relationship with the goniometer position? Many thanks in advance, Jonathan -- Jonathan Elegheert Ph.D. Student

Re: [ccp4bb] unstable refinement

2009-02-16 Thread George M. Sheldrick
Dear Ian, That was in fact one of my reasons for only calculating the free R at the end of a SHELXL refinement run (the other reason, now less important, was to save some CPU time). I have to add that I am no longer completely convinced that I made the right decision all those years ago. A

[ccp4bb] moving the cofactor in model

2009-02-16 Thread Elad Binshtein
i have a density map and a model and i want to place the cofactor. i use wincoot and find the electron density for the cofactor but... how can i move the cofactor and play with it in this area?

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement

2009-02-16 Thread Tim Gruene
Hi Rana, Your email contains very little information which might help finding the reason for the high R-values - the resolution itself does not mean your data are of good quality. What is the completeness (overall and high resolution shell), what are Rint/ Rsym and I/sigma? Maybe you are

Re: [ccp4bb] Detector pitch, roll, yaw

2009-02-16 Thread Tim Gruene
Hi, this is probably dependent on the integration program you are using - there might not be one universal definition... did you compare the programs' documentation? Tim -- Tim Gruene Institut fuer anorganische Chemie Tammannstr. 4 D-37077 Goettingen GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A On Mon, 16 Feb

Re: [ccp4bb] moving the cofactor in model

2009-02-16 Thread Anthony Addlagatta
Elad, If it is only moving the coordinates of the co-factor and placing it in the density, once you load the coordinate file for your co-factor into the wincoot, it is pretty much drag and rotate process by using the option Rotate/Translate Zone But if your question is with respect to playing

[ccp4bb] Questions about (possibly) twinned data

2009-02-16 Thread Van Den Berg, Bert
Hello all, we have a dataset collected from multiple (2 or 3) parts of the same crystal with a microbeam (20 micron). The merged data scales OK (not great) in monoclinic (1-3% rejections). The resolution is 3.2-3.3 A, so the data is not fantastic. This is the cell (similar for other

Re: [ccp4bb] unstable refinement

2009-02-16 Thread Ian Tickle
Dear George I would still maintain that values of Rfree where the refinement had not attained convergence are totally uninformative, so I would say you made the right call! During a refinement run, Rfree is often observed to fall initially and then increase towards the end, though usually not

Re: [ccp4bb] Detector pitch, roll, yaw

2009-02-16 Thread Bram Schierbeek
Hi Jonathan, Pitch, Roll and Yaw come from flight dynamics, see e.g. http://www.answers.com/topic/pitch-yaw-roll. With X parallel to the X-ray beam, Z pointing to the Zenith and Y being perpendicular to X Y, they correspond to the roty, rotz and rotx of the detector with respect to the

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic: ligand enrichment

2009-02-16 Thread Edward A. Berry
Yingjie Peng wrote: .. After I have solved my strucutre, I have found my target ligand bound at the potential binding site. Also, I have found that there are two more ligand molecules bound along the path from solvent to the binding site. I think this can enrich the ligand to binding site,

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic: ligand enrichment

2009-02-16 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Yingjie, I agree with Ed Berry that I do not believe that nearby binding sites influence the Km (~Kd) which depend on bound and unbound concentrations. However, there could be a strong kinetic effect, e.g. these secondary binding sites could act as stepping stones when the path to the primary

Re: [ccp4bb] Questions about (possibly) twinned data

2009-02-16 Thread Christopher Colbert
Hi Bert, It seems unikely you are experiencing merohedral twinning in your crystal since none of your unit cell dimensions are equal length or integer multiples. For your cell, you would expect to see multiple lattices. Is it possible you have a dimer in the asymmetric unit? Strong NCS

Re: [ccp4bb] Questions about (possibly) twinned data

2009-02-16 Thread Borhani, David
Bert, Your self-Patterson peak may be real, i.e. you have pseudo translation, which can then make the statistics *look* like the crystal is twinned. Try a self-Patterson (perhaps sharpened) at somewhat lower resolution, e.g 6 A. Maybe the peak is real, but is only 6% of origin due to a slight

[ccp4bb] deadline for beamtime proposals during April/May 2009 for BM14/ESRF 20th Feb. 2009

2009-02-16 Thread Martin A. Walsh
Dear all, deadline for submission of proposals for beamtime at BM14 (ESRF) for the second run of 2009 [April/May] is this Friday, the20th February 2009. Beamline proposals can be submitted on-line from the BM14 webpages at http://www.bm14.eu PLEASE remember this call is distinct from ESRF

[ccp4bb] PDB protein strucutrues as screen saver

2009-02-16 Thread Jayashankar
Dear Scientists, It may be too much... But as a biophysics student I would like to appreciate and feel happy to have pdb structures as my computers screen savers than to have some funny and fancy stuffs. And it may help me as a motivator to solve my own structures in future I want to ask is

Re: [ccp4bb] PDB protein strucutrues as screen saver

2009-02-16 Thread Nadir T. Mrabet
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[ccp4bb] reifine metal with phenix

2009-02-16 Thread Lisa Wang
Hi all, The resolution of my structure is 3.1A. There are three Mg binds in this structure. I try to refine it with phenix. There are cleare extrea density before I add Mg atoms. But when I put Mg in the central of density with good coordination and try to refine it by phenix, those Mg move

Re: [ccp4bb] PDB protein strucutrues as screen saver

2009-02-16 Thread Jürgen Bosch
Get a Mac, render some images in Pymol and run a slideshow with Ken burns effect if you want. Jürgen On 16 Feb 2009, at 13:22, Jayashankar wrote: Dear Scientists, It may be too much... But as a biophysics student I would like to appreciate and feel happy to have pdb structures as my

Re: [ccp4bb] PDB protein strucutrues as screen saver

2009-02-16 Thread Sabuj Pattanayek
But as a biophysics student I would like to appreciate and feel happy to have pdb structures as my computers screen savers than to have some funny and fancy stuffs. And it may help me as a motivator to solve my own structures in future

[ccp4bb] Looking for a free program for calculating powder diffraction pattern

2009-02-16 Thread wob
Hi, I'm looking for a free program for calculating powder diffraction pattern, given a PDB file. I googled for hours and only found a bunch of junks... Thanks for your help! Owen

Re: [ccp4bb] PDB protein strucutrues as screen saver

2009-02-16 Thread William G. Scott
On Feb 16, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Jayashankar wrote: Dear Scientists, It may be too much... But as a biophysics student I would like to appreciate and feel happy to have pdb structures as my computers screen savers than to have some funny and fancy stuffs. And it may help me as a motivator

[ccp4bb] Occupancy Refinement

2009-02-16 Thread protein.chemist protein.chemist
Dear All, I have a question about the occupancy refinement of a ligand. I have a dataset of 2.3 angstrom and the ligand binds in multiple conformations in the active site. My question is if it is possible to tell which orientation(s) has/have the highest occupancy based on occupancy refinement.

Re: [ccp4bb] unstable refinement

2009-02-16 Thread Axel Brunger
Dear Ian, I totally agree with your observations and recommendations. If one is concerned about instability of the optimizer (minimization and/or simulated annealing) I suggest to also monitor the value of the total energy function (X-ray maximum likelihood term plus all restraints). Another

Re: [ccp4bb] reifine metal with phenix

2009-02-16 Thread Joern Krausze
Dear Lisa, you can specify custom bond and angle restraints by using the option refinement.geometry_restraints.edits. Best is to save them to a file (e.g. restraints_edits.params) and use this as input for your next phenix.refine run. Assuming the ideal distance for your Mg is 2.1A and the

[ccp4bb] include or exclude overloads

2009-02-16 Thread Ho-Leung Ng
Hi Clemens, Thank you for the clarification. I had thought you were advocating using a general low resolution cutoff, with which I would disagree. I spend a lot of time troubleshooting data collected and processed by other people. Those are good reminders to go back and check beamstop

[ccp4bb] Protein crystallization

2009-02-16 Thread Liew Chong Wai
Hi all I am dealing with a protein which size is about 200kDa. Due to the impurity and degradation problem, the protein has gone thru 3 purification steps (affinity column ion exchange column gel filtration column). The buffer condition for the last step of purification was 50mM MOPS pH7.0,

Re: [ccp4bb] PDB protein strucutrues as screen saver

2009-02-16 Thread William G. Scott
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Re: [ccp4bb] Looking for a free program for calculating powder diffraction pattern

2009-02-16 Thread Jon Wright
Dear Owen, The GSAS package can do that: http://www.ccp14.ac.uk/solution/gsas/ It is important to put some values for the solvent contribution if you want to get a meaningful pattern. Shout if you need a hand. Good luck, Jon wob wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a free program for calculating