[ccp4bb] problem in calculation of elbow angle.

2010-01-13 Thread tarique khan
Dear all,
I am trying to calculate elbow angle of my fab structure using a online
software developed by Robyn L. Stanfield *et. al*. but it is giving a
solution with the following errors.

WARNING: rotation matrix contains significant additional contributions

WARNING: and deviates significantly from a pseudo-twofold0.721

WARNING: rotation matrix contains significant additional contributions
WARNING: and deviates significantly from a pseudo-twofold :0.726


WARNING: there have been deviations from expected values -
   please read the log above!)
   No guarantee that the calulated elbow angle is meaningful
   The Elbow angle is probably 174.5 deg.

*Kindly suggest some other way of accurately, calculating elbow angle.*

regards.

Tarique khan


[ccp4bb] Synchrotron beam time 2010 at EMBL Hamburg

2010-01-13 Thread Victor Lamzin
This is just a gentle reminder that the deadline for beam time 2010 at  
EMBL Hamburg is today, January 13.


With best regards,
Victor



 Call for access to Synchrotron Beamline Facilities 2010

  EMBL Hamburg, Germany

We announce a call for synchrotron beam time applications in biological
small-angle scattering (SAXS) and X-ray crystallography (PX). Up to 32
weeks of beam time will be available at the DORIS storage ring (DESY)
from March 2010 to February 2011.

EMBL Hamburg will operate the following beamlines:

Beamline  New featuresScientist responsible

X33SAXS   Automated and remote operation  Dmitri Svergun
X11PX MAR555 Flat Panel detector  Santosh Panjikar
X12PX MAD, S-SAD, fluorescence analysis   Andrea Schmidt
X13PX Microspec, expert data collection   Matthew Groves

The deadline for submission of proposals is January 13, 2010.
An external Priorities Committee will assess the proposals.

Electronic beam proposal forms and a detailed description of the
beamline facilities are available at www.embl-hamburg.de
(click on 'Access to Infrastructures').

Additional EMBL services can be found at www.embl-hamburg.de/facilities

EMBL is constructing three new beamlines for applications in biological
X-ray crystallography (PX) and small-angle scattering (SAXS) at the Petra-III
synchrotron storage ring, which are scheduled to be available from 2011.
See www.embl-hamburg.de/services/petra for further information.

For further information
tel. +49-40-89902-110,
s...@embl-hamburg.de (SAXS)
b...@embl-hamburg.de (PX).

Access to the EMBL Hamburg facilities will be supported by the European
Commission, Research Infrastructure Action under the FP7 ELISA (European
Light Sources Activities).


[ccp4bb] Postdoctoral Position at the University of Wuerzburg

2010-01-13 Thread Clemens Grimm

A postdoctoral position in

Structural Biology of the Spliceosomal Assembly Machinery

is available at the Biocenter of the University of Wuerzburg, Germany,  
within the department of Biochemistry.
The successful candidate will participate in all stages of  
crystallographic structure determination from cloning, protein  
expression and purification

to synchrotron data collection, processing and model building.

The following qualifications will be required:

- a PhD degree
- experience in protein expression and purification
- experience in data collection and processing
- cumputing skills (scripting languages, linux system administration)  
would be an advantage.


We offer an initial 2 year contract, extendable depending on project  
success. Payment will be in accordance with German public service  
positions (TVöD E13), including extensive social security plans. More  
information about the department and the biocenter is available on the  
respective web sites at:


www.biozentrum.de

Please send your application including a letter of interest, a CV and  
names of two references to:


clemens.gr...@biozentrum.uni-wuerzburg.de


The University of Wuerzburg is an equal opportunity employer with an  
affirmative action program for the disabled.


--
Dr. Clemens Grimm
Institut für Biochemie
Biozentrum der Universität Würzburg
Am Hubland
D-97074 Würzburg
Germany
e-mail: clemens.gr...@biozentrum.uni-wuerzburg.de
phone : +49 0931 888 84031
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Re: [ccp4bb] problem in calculation of elbow angle.

2010-01-13 Thread Phil Jeffrey

Inherently you want to calculate:

1.  the approximately two-fold relationship between VH and VL
2.  the approximately two-fold relationship between CL and CH1

You can use many programs for that (e.g. LSQMAN) but ideally you want a 
program that will report Direction Cosines for the rotation axis in this 
superimposition.  Particularly wacky CDR conformations could conceivably 
 confuse automatic alignment programs so you could delete those.  You 
should check the superimposed alignments for sanity (e.g. correspondence 
of the disulfide bonds).


Then calculate the elbow angle for the Fab from the dot product of the 
direction cosines of VL:VH and CL:CH1.


Phil Jeffrey
Princeton



tarique khan wrote:

Dear all,
I am trying to calculate elbow angle of my fab structure using a online 
software developed by Robyn L. Stanfield /et. al/. but it is giving a 
solution with the following errors.


WARNING: rotation matrix contains significant additional contributions 


WARNING: and deviates significantly from a pseudo-twofold0.721

WARNING: rotation matrix contains significant additional contributions 


WARNING: and deviates significantly from a pseudo-twofold :0.726


WARNING: there have been deviations from expected values - 
   please read the log above!) 
   No guarantee that the calulated elbow angle is meaningful 


   The Elbow angle is probably 174.5 deg.

*Kindly suggest some other way of accurately, calculating elbow angle.*

regards.

Tarique khan





Re: [ccp4bb] problem in calculation of elbow angle.

2010-01-13 Thread Robyn Stanfield
Dear Tarique,



   The elbow angle in a Fab is just the angle between two pseudo-twofold axes: 
one relating VL to VH and one relating CL to CH. You can find the 
pseudo-twofold axes using many different least-squares alignment programs, just 
pick your favorite. Then, just take the dot product of the two resulting 
axes/vectors for your elbow angle.  You can do this quite accurately with a 
pencil and paper and maybe a handheld calculator.



The error message you report indicates problems calculating the pseudo-two fold 
axes;  you probably either have (a) an unusual Fab where the axes relating 
light to heavy chains

deviate significantly from 180 degrees (b) a glitch or unusual feature in your  
PDB file that has thrown off the calculation of the pseudo-two folds (thus 
making them appear to deviate from 180).  Bernhard might be able to enlighten 
you more as he wrote the code and error 
messages(b...@ruppweb.orgmailto:b...@ruppweb.org)



Cheers,

Robyn

ro...@scripps.edu


From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of tarique 
khan
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:45 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] problem in calculation of elbow angle.

Dear all,
I am trying to calculate elbow angle of my fab structure using a online 
software developed by Robyn L. Stanfield et. al. but it is giving a solution 
with the following errors.

WARNING: rotation matrix contains significant additional contributions



WARNING: and deviates significantly from a pseudo-twofold0.721



WARNING: rotation matrix contains significant additional contributions





WARNING: and deviates significantly from a pseudo-twofold :0.726





WARNING: there have been deviations from expected values -

   please read the log above!)

   No guarantee that the calulated elbow angle is meaningful





   The Elbow angle is probably 174.5 deg.



Kindly suggest some other way of accurately, calculating elbow angle.



regards.



Tarique khan



[ccp4bb] Expression of large proteins in E. coli

2010-01-13 Thread nick

Hello All,

I apologize for the non-CCP4-related query. I have been working for  
several weeks now trying, with limited success, to express some very  
large proteins (ranging from ~100 to 180 kDa) from pET15b in E. coli.  
Limited success means I have expressed enough soluble protein to see  
on a gel, but not enough to purify. I have tried the obvious tweaks -  
changing strains (BL21, BL21-star, Rosetta, pLysS), screening  
induction temperature (16 to 37C), [IPTG] (0.3-1.0mM). I am in the  
process of subcloning into vectors for (1) SUMO fusion and (2)  
periplasmic expression (pET26b). I get the sense from digging through  
the literature that high level expression of large proteins depends  
mostly on the individual protein and I will ultimately have to look  
for homologs. But, this is my first experience expressing such large  
proteins and I am curious to know if anyone out there has some magical  
trick they wouldn't mind sharing.


Thanks in advance,
Nick

-
Nicholas R. Silvaggi, Ph.D.
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
3210 North Cramer Street
Milwaukee, WI 53211

Phone: 414-229-2647
Email: silva...@uwm.edu


Re: [ccp4bb] Expression of large proteins in E. coli

2010-01-13 Thread Pascal Egea
Hi Nick,

Some success has been reported for large soluble proteins using the C41(DE3)
and C43(DE3) *E. coli* strains (see the paper by Miroux  Walker). Also you
can try another promoter/expression system , the pBAD expression system
based on arabinose induction.

Hope this helps.

Best

-- 
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Assistant Professor
UCLA, David Geffen School of Medicine
Department of Biological Chemistry
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Re: [ccp4bb] Expression of large proteins in E. coli

2010-01-13 Thread Raji Edayathumangalam

Hey Nick,

Short answer is that there are no magical tricks, as you probably  
already expect to hear. Seems there's a lot that you are trying already.


I have some limited experience with some 125kDa, 100kDa proteins.

1. I've had some luck with the E. coli C41, C43 strains. Especially if  
your proteins are inherently toxic to E. coli. There are commercial  
vendors who sell these strains with the plus or minus pLysS options.
2. Try moving the tags to the other terminus N- to C- or vice versa.  
Can't do that for SUMO in any easy manner.

3. Try MBP tag as well
4. Try Studier's autoinduction protocol
5. Try expression with chaperone kit,  trigger factor (Takara)
6. You don't mention whether the protein is human etc., but you may  
have to move to yeast or insect cells, in the worst case.


DISCLAIMER: I am not paid by Takara to mention their kit.

Good luck!
Raji

---
Raji Edayathumangalam
Joint Research Fellow
Brigham and Women's Hospital/
Harvard Medical School
Brandeis University




On Jan 13, 2010, at 4:53 PM, n...@silvaggi.com wrote:


Hello All,

I apologize for the non-CCP4-related query. I have been working for  
several weeks now trying, with limited success, to express some very  
large proteins (ranging from ~100 to 180 kDa) from pET15b in E.  
coli. Limited success means I have expressed enough soluble  
protein to see on a gel, but not enough to purify. I have tried the  
obvious tweaks - changing strains (BL21, BL21-star, Rosetta, pLysS),  
screening induction temperature (16 to 37C), [IPTG] (0.3-1.0mM). I  
am in the process of subcloning into vectors for (1) SUMO fusion and  
(2) periplasmic expression (pET26b). I get the sense from digging  
through the literature that high level expression of large proteins  
depends mostly on the individual protein and I will ultimately have  
to look for homologs. But, this is my first experience expressing  
such large proteins and I am curious to know if anyone out there has  
some magical trick they wouldn't mind sharing.


Thanks in advance,
Nick

-
Nicholas R. Silvaggi, Ph.D.
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
3210 North Cramer Street
Milwaukee, WI 53211

Phone: 414-229-2647
Email: silva...@uwm.edu


Re: [ccp4bb] Reindexing P21.. the process?

2010-01-13 Thread Phil Evans
Negating the DANO columns is the correct thing to do if the reindex operator 
changes hkl to h,-k,-h-l which will then be put back into the asymmetric unit 
with Friedel's law + symmetry

eg hkl (1,2,3) - (1,-2,-4) -Operator[-h,-k,-l] - -1,+2, +4

The Friedel's law operator -h,-k,-l interchanges I+  I-, ie negates DANO

Phil

On 13 Jan 2010, at 21:18, Francis E Reyes wrote:

 Hi all
 
 I have data integrated and scaled to P21 via denzo/scalepack. I'm concerned 
 about 
 the workflow to obtain the alternate indexing arrangement (h,k,l) - 
 (h,-k,-h-l). 
 
 I was thinking .sca ( not specifying NO MERGE) - .mtz - reindex but  the 
 documentation for reindex says all my DANO columns are 'negated' ( I do not 
 specify NOREDUCE). So I must run truncate on the reindexed intensities to 
 recalculate F(+/-) and DANO/SIGDANO) ?
 
 Thanks
 
 FR


Re: [ccp4bb] Reindexing P21.. the process?

2010-01-13 Thread Francis E Reyes

+1 phenix FTW

FR

On Jan 13, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Peter Zwart phzw...@lbl.gov wrote:


try using

phenix.reflection_file_converter data.sca
--change_of_basis=h,-k,-h-l --sca=reindex.sca

or something like that


HTH

Peter



2010/1/13 Francis E Reyes francis.re...@colorado.edu:

Hi all

I have data integrated and scaled to P21 via denzo/scalepack. I'm  
concerned about
the workflow to obtain the alternate indexing arrangement (h,k,l) - 
 (h,-k,-h-l).


I was thinking .sca ( not specifying NO MERGE) - .mtz - reindex  
but  the
documentation for reindex says all my DANO columns are  
'negated' ( I do not
specify NOREDUCE). So I must run truncate on the reindexed  
intensities to

recalculate F(+/-) and DANO/SIGDANO) ?

Thanks

FR





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Re: [ccp4bb] Expression of large proteins in E. coli

2010-01-13 Thread Ricardo Augusto Pereira de Padua
Hi Nick,
I work with a 120kDa protein and using IPTG 50uM was crucial to get some
soluble protein. Try to reduce the amount of IPTG and temperature, increase
the induction time (24h,18°C) and volume of culture. It works fine for my
protein and may be suitable for yours as well.

Best,
Ricardo  


On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:53:22 -0600, nick wrote
 Hello All,
 
 I apologize for the non-CCP4-related query. I have been working for  
 several weeks now trying, with limited success, to express some very 
  large proteins (ranging from ~100 to 180 kDa) from pET15b in E. 
 coli.  Limited success means I have expressed enough soluble 
 protein to see  on a gel, but not enough to purify. I have tried the 
 obvious tweaks -  changing strains (BL21, BL21-star, Rosetta, pLysS),
  screening  induction temperature (16 to 37C), [IPTG] (0.3-1.0mM). I 
 am in the  process of subcloning into vectors for (1) SUMO fusion 
 and (2)  periplasmic expression (pET26b). I get the sense from 
 digging through  the literature that high level expression of large 
 proteins depends  mostly on the individual protein and I will 
 ultimately have to look  for homologs. But, this is my first 
 experience expressing such large  proteins and I am curious to know 
 if anyone out there has some magical  trick they wouldn't mind sharing.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Nick
 
 -
 Nicholas R. Silvaggi, Ph.D.
 University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
 Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
 3210 North Cramer Street
 Milwaukee, WI 53211
 
 Phone: 414-229-2647
 Email: silva...@uwm.edu


--
Ricardo Augusto Pereira de Pádua
Laboratory of Protein Crystallography of Ribeirão Preto
Faculty of Pharmaceutical Sciences of Ribeirão Preto
University of São Paulo - Brazil


Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4BB Digest - 12 Jan 2010 to 13 Jan 2010 (#2010-12)

2010-01-13 Thread Ho Leung Ng
Hi Nick,

 In the past, I've successfully expressed a 130 kd eukaryotic
protein in large quantities in plain BL21. I don't think size per se
is a major problem for expression although I've heard others say they
had problems with heterogeneous termination. I'd try the standard
repertoire of techniques to improve expression. What has worked best
for me in the past were 1) lowering the temperature of
induction/expression and 2) using different tags.

 It sounds like you've already tried many different parameters.
Consider different expression hosts.


ho


Re: [ccp4bb] Expression of large proteins in E. coli

2010-01-13 Thread Will Stanley

Hi Nick,

A couple of other suggestions:

(1)  Try an E. coli K strain (e.g. JM109).  They're different in  
glucose metabolism (JN Phue et al, 2005, Biotechnol Bioeng 90:805–820)  
and in my experience tend to grow more slowly - which seems to help  
improve yields of large constructs.


(2)  Optimal oxygenation also seems to be very important in producing  
large constructs.  Not sure what vessels you're using but Fernback  
flasks work well for me.  Or a fermenter might solve all you problems.


Good luck,
Will.





Hello All,

I apologize for the non-CCP4-related query. I have been working for
several weeks now trying, with limited success, to express some very
large proteins (ranging from ~100 to 180 kDa) from pET15b in E. coli.
Limited success means I have expressed enough soluble protein to see
on a gel, but not enough to purify. I have tried the obvious tweaks -
changing strains (BL21, BL21-star, Rosetta, pLysS), screening
induction temperature (16 to 37C), [IPTG] (0.3-1.0mM). I am in the
process of subcloning into vectors for (1) SUMO fusion and (2)
periplasmic expression (pET26b). I get the sense from digging through
the literature that high level expression of large proteins depends
mostly on the individual protein and I will ultimately have to look
for homologs. But, this is my first experience expressing such large
proteins and I am curious to know if anyone out there has some magical
trick they wouldn't mind sharing.

Thanks in advance,
Nick

-
Nicholas R. Silvaggi, Ph.D.
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
3210 North Cramer Street
Milwaukee, WI 53211

Phone: 414-229-2647
Email: silva...@uwm.edu


Re: [ccp4bb] Expression of large proteins in E. coli

2010-01-13 Thread Tuomo Glumoff
Nick,

We have recently got much improved expression (both total amount and in
soluble form) of 72 kDa protein by using the EnBase Flo cell cultivation kit
from Biosilta (www.biosilta.com). The method is based on enzymatic slow
release of glucose from a starch(?)-like polymer - thus mimicking a
fed-batch principle of bioreactor cultivations, but in shake flasks.
Induction is done at a much higher cell density than conventionally, and
long induction periods (24 h) can be used. Consequently the yields become
higher and the folding/refolding machinery has time to make more correctly
folded protein. Smaller cultivation volumes can be used, yet results in more
cells and product. We also tried with a 100 kDa protein without great
improvement yet. But the kit is certainly worth a go.

Tuomo Glumoff

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-Original Message-
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Will
Stanley
Sent: 14. tammikuuta 2010 3:18
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Expression of large proteins in E. coli

Hi Nick,

A couple of other suggestions:

(1)  Try an E. coli K strain (e.g. JM109).  They're different in  
glucose metabolism (JN Phue et al, 2005, Biotechnol Bioeng 90:805-820)  
and in my experience tend to grow more slowly - which seems to help  
improve yields of large constructs.

(2)  Optimal oxygenation also seems to be very important in producing  
large constructs.  Not sure what vessels you're using but Fernback  
flasks work well for me.  Or a fermenter might solve all you problems.

Good luck,
Will.




 Hello All,

 I apologize for the non-CCP4-related query. I have been working for
 several weeks now trying, with limited success, to express some very
 large proteins (ranging from ~100 to 180 kDa) from pET15b in E. coli.
 Limited success means I have expressed enough soluble protein to see
 on a gel, but not enough to purify. I have tried the obvious tweaks -
 changing strains (BL21, BL21-star, Rosetta, pLysS), screening
 induction temperature (16 to 37C), [IPTG] (0.3-1.0mM). I am in the
 process of subcloning into vectors for (1) SUMO fusion and (2)
 periplasmic expression (pET26b). I get the sense from digging through
 the literature that high level expression of large proteins depends
 mostly on the individual protein and I will ultimately have to look
 for homologs. But, this is my first experience expressing such large
 proteins and I am curious to know if anyone out there has some magical
 trick they wouldn't mind sharing.

 Thanks in advance,
 Nick

 -
 Nicholas R. Silvaggi, Ph.D.
 University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
 Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
 3210 North Cramer Street
 Milwaukee, WI 53211

 Phone: 414-229-2647
 Email: silva...@uwm.edu