Re: [ccp4bb] statistics of A/B

2011-06-07 Thread Rongjin Guan
how about Delta method? 

see examples here: http://www.math.umt.edu/patterson/549/Delta.pdf  


= = = = = = = = On 2011-06-07 08:47:04 You wrote = = = = = = = = 
Thank you for the reply. Hypothesis: A and B are independent and normal 
distribution. Could you please explain more? Thanks.

--- On Mon, 6/6/11, chris.mor...@stfc.ac.uk chris.mor...@stfc.ac.uk wrote:


From: chris.mor...@stfc.ac.uk chris.mor...@stfc.ac.uk
Subject: statistics of A/B
To: capri...@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 4:00 AM


HI,

Do you have a hypothesis about the distributions of A and B? If so, there might 
be an analytic answer to your question, and certainly you can answer it by 
monte carlo simulation.

Without a know distribution, it does not have an answer. From the mean and 
variance of A and B, you can work out the mean and variance of:
   A - B
But not of:
   Log A

Note that the answer you are looking for will be ill conditioned if the 
distribution of B includes points near 0.

regards,
Chris

Chris Morris   
chris.mor...@stfc.ac.uk
Tel: +44 (0)1925 603689  Fax: +44 (0)1925 603634
Mobile: 07921-717915
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Daresbury Lab,  Daresbury,  Warrington,  UK,  WA4 4AD 




If means and standard deviations of A and B are known, how to estimate the 
variance of A/B?

Thanks.
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[ccp4bb] Neutrons in Biology 2011 - REGISTRATION NOW OPEN

2011-06-07 Thread Teixeira Susana


  
  


  Dear Colleagues,

We are pleased to introduce an intensive
  3-day hands-on Neutrons in Biology 2011 School
  (Oct. 21-23, 2011) at the European Photon and Neutron Science
  Campus (Grenoble, France) - a satellite school to the Neutrons in Biology and Biotechnology meeting (Oct.
  19-20, 2011). 
During the course of this school
  participants will be tutored in the joint use of X-ray and
  neutron scattering techniques applicable to structural biology
   Macromolecular Crystallography (PHENIX), Small Angle
  Scattering and Reflectometry - with emphasis on their
  complementary nature. The students will
  be given "hands-on" training in the use of state-of-the-art
  data analysis and modelling software. By the close of the course
  the participants should be able to access the suitability of
  neutron scattering techniques for their scientific projects
  using large scale facilities. 
Pre-registration deadline is August 15,
  2011  a limited number of applications will be accepted! 
  Please visit the website for more information: http://www.ill.eu/nib2011
Best
regards,
The organisers
  



  

-- 
  
  
  Susana TEIXEIRA, Institut Laue
Langevin, LSS Group
  


   
   
  



Re: [ccp4bb] anomalous difference map?

2011-06-07 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi,


resolution 1.5
  (...)

 even after refining individual atom (phenix) i  still have positive and
 negative peak


Make sure you use proper refinement strategy at this resolution:
- refine coordinates, and anisotropic ADPs (macromolecule and heavy atoms,
if any) and isotropic for the rest, automatically update waters,
etc..etc..etc...


2- i want to calculate anomalous difference map for Br , sulfur and Tin (not
 refining using anomalous) how can i do that?


You mentioned you used PHENIX for refinement. In this case you don't need to
do anything: your anomalous difference map is in MTZ file created by
phenix.refine at the end of refinement (provided that your input data was
not merged, but you used F+/F-). You can also use phenix.maps to compute
anomalous difference map.

Pavel.


[ccp4bb] Workshop on Low to Moderate Resolution Structure Determination

2011-06-07 Thread Kay Perry
Structural biology is now at a juncture where moderate-to-low resolution 
diffraction data are more frequent and equally important. To address the 
challenges and solutions in this area, NE-CAT is organizing a one-day workshop 
titled Advances in Moderate to Low Resolution Phasing and Refinement on 
September 19, 2011 at Rockefeller University, New York City, NY

Organized by Kay Perry, Igor Kourinov, Raj Rajashankar (NE-CAT) and Seth Darst 
(Rockefeller University)

More information and registration at:

http://necat.chem.cornell.edu/workshops/lowresolutionworkshop.php

The workshop is free, but registration is required for entry to Rockefeller 
University and a complimentary lunch.

-- 
Kay Perry
NE-CAT
9700 S. Cass Ave.
Bldg. 436 E007
Argonne, IL 60439
630-252-0692


[ccp4bb] Hampton's adjustable cryoloop

2011-06-07 Thread Zhijie Li
Hello,

I just noticed that Hampton Research carries this adjustable mounted cryoloop 
(HR5-900):
http://hamptonresearch.com/product_detail.aspx?cid=24sid=136pid=385

This looks quite interesting to me, as it seems that not every synchrotron 
station's configuration can allow the use of an extended arc. 

I wonder if somebody here can share some insights or experiences about this 
adjustable cryoloop. I once tried to bend my non-hollow stainless steel pin in 
liquid nitrogen with tweezers. It didn't work - the pin was too stiff then I 
lost my crystal in the end. I wonder if this cryoloop was designed such that 
bending it would be easier.

Thanks in advance!

Zhijie

Re: [ccp4bb] Hampton's adjustable cryoloop

2011-06-07 Thread Li, Weikai
Hi Zhijie,

This loop is good if you have a long unit cell on one dimension and you can 
align your crystal in a particular direction.  You basically need a beamline 
equipped with Kappa, which allows you to directly put the crystal on with the 
plastic tube. A normal cryotong does not hold the bent loop.  

Regards,

Weikai



From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Zhijie Li 
[zhijie...@utoronto.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 5:30 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] Hampton's adjustable cryoloop

Hello,

I just noticed that Hampton Research carries this adjustable mounted cryoloop 
(HR5-900):
http://hamptonresearch.com/product_detail.aspx?cid=24sid=136pid=385wlmailhtml:{35C92305-260C-4820-B40D-05B0D91A0A8F}mid://0065/!x-usc:http://hamptonresearch.com/product_detail.aspx?cid=24sid=136pid=385

This looks quite interesting to me, as it seems that not every synchrotron 
station's configuration can allow the use of an extended arc.

I wonder if somebody here can share some insights or experiences about this 
adjustable cryoloop. I once tried to bend my non-hollow stainless steel pin in 
liquid nitrogen with tweezers. It didn't work - the pin was too stiff then I 
lost my crystal in the end. I wonder if this cryoloop was designed such that 
bending it would be easier.

Thanks in advance!

Zhijie