Re: [ccp4bb] Unidentified density

2012-02-10 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Sudhir, A blob surrounded by three Asp residues looks like a positively charged ion. What else (buffer, additives) is in your crystallization drop? I would also try to fit cysteine/serine. At 2 Å you will quickly see whether or not this is correct. Good luck! Herman

Re: [ccp4bb] unidentified density

2012-02-10 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo , first build a poly-ALA stretch. In coot or O this is conveniently achieved using baton-build mode. This should improve the phases. Then look at the side chains.Turbo-frodo has got somehting like a slider that shows the sequence on screen

[ccp4bb] Application deadline for MX-beamtime at HZB-BESSY March , 1. 2012 !

2012-02-10 Thread Müller , Uwe
Next MX-proposal application deadline: March 1, 2012 is approaching See also: http://www.bessy.de/boat/http://www.bessy.de/boat/www/ We kindly invite new MX-proposals for beamtime applications for the next beamtime period. In order to apply for beamtime, please register at the HZB on-line

[ccp4bb] job opportunity in molecular biophysics / structural biology

2012-02-10 Thread Weiergräber, Oliver H.
Dear colleagues, I would like to point your attention to the following job opportunity - professorship/director (W3) - which is jointly offered by the Forschungszentrum Juelich and Heinrich Heine University Duesseldorf, Germany: http://www.nature.com/naturejobs/science/jobs/243931 The focus

Re: [ccp4bb] unidentified density

2012-02-10 Thread Eleanor Dodson
On 02/10/2012 07:35 AM, intekhab alam wrote: Hi all I have a 3A dataset for a protein-protein complex. I have successfully build the first protein and refined it to R/Rfree 24/28. I can see some density for my second protein but the density is a bit noisy. I have attached the coot image of the

[ccp4bb] PhD studentship opportunity in Newcastle University

2012-02-10 Thread Paula Salgado
BBSRC MRes/PhD Studentship: Structural studies of biofilm-associated proteins from human pathogens 4 Years (MRes Medical and Molecular Biosciences followed by a three-year PhD) or 3 Years PhD, depending on qualifications, funded by Faculty of Medical Sciences and BBSRC at the UK/EU rate. This

[ccp4bb] Best method for weighted averaging of Friedel pairs?

2012-02-10 Thread Markus Meier
Dear all, I have a anomalous dataset, processed in HKL2000. Scalepack outputs a file containing the separately merged sets of the Friedel pairs I- and I+ and their standard deviations sigI+ and sigI-. Scalepack does not output the averaged intensities (Imean) and the standard deviations

[ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, I am looking for references which discuss the validity of the assertion that multiple crystal structures of the same or similar proteins can be considered freeze-frame snapshots of actual conformations assumed in solution. In a way, the assertion seems almost definitely

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread James Stroud
How could they not be snapshots of conformations adopted in solution? James On Feb 10, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Jacob Keller wrote: Dear Crystallographers, I am looking for references which discuss the validity of the assertion that multiple crystal structures of the same or similar proteins

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Nat Echols
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:29 PM, James Stroud xtald...@gmail.com wrote: How could they not be snapshots of conformations adopted in solution? Packing billions of copies of an irregularly-shaped protein into a compact lattice and freezing it to 100K isn't necessarily representative of solution,

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Jacob Keller
How could they not be snapshots of conformations adopted in solution? Let me clarify--sorry about that. Consider several structures of the same protein solved under different conditions, or several homologs solved under similar conditions, or both. Further, let's say some structural element,

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Robert Immormino
Hi Jacob, Lorena Beese has a few systems where snapshots of reaction mechanisms have been looked at structurally. Here are two such papers: Long, SB, Casey, P., Beese, LS (2002) The reaction path of protein farnesyltransferase at atomic resolution. Nature Oct 10; 419(6907):645-50.

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread David Schuller
On 02/10/2012 03:25 PM, Jacob Keller wrote: Dear Crystallographers, I am looking for references which discuss the validity of the assertion that multiple crystal structures of the same or similar proteins can be considered freeze-frame snapshots of actual conformations assumed in solution. In a

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Roger Rowlett
I believe the most justifiable assumption one can make is that crystal structures are likely to represent the least soluble conformations of a protein under the conditions of crystallization (which might be a broad range of conditions, including physiological).

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Jacob Keller
Interesting to juxtapose these two responses: James Stroud: How could they not be snapshots of conformations adopted in solution? David Schuller: How could that possibly be the case when any structure is an average of all the unit cells of the crystal over the timespan of the diffraction

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread James Stroud
So the implication is that some of these treatments might allow the protein to overcome energetic barriers that are prohibitive in solution--after the protein is already in the solid state and not in solution any more? Another view is that crystallization is a result of stabilizing

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread George
Packing billions of copies into a compact lattice Not so compact there is 40-80% water freezing it to 100K We have frozen many times protein solutions in liquid nitrogen and then thaw and were working OK non-physiological amounts of salt and various organics What is the amount of salt and

[ccp4bb] Creating new project directories with ccp4i

2012-02-10 Thread Chad Simmons
Hi, I have run ccp4 without issue on my OS X machine until recently. For some reason I am not able to create new project directories, and therefore am not able to run routines. The message that I am getting is the following: ERROR saving parameters to file .../.CCP4/unix/directories.def I have

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread James Stroud
The contrast seems to boil down to the semantics of the word snapshot. In my definition, I assume that the uncertainty of a structure is an intrinsic quality of the structure and thus included in the meaning of snapshot. Part of that uncertainty comes from averaging. James On Feb 10, 2012,

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Friday, February 10, 2012 12:51:03 pm Jacob Keller wrote: Interesting to juxtapose these two responses: James Stroud: How could they not be snapshots of conformations adopted in solution? David Schuller: How could that possibly be the case when any structure is an average of all the

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Nat Echols
Just to clarify - I actually think the original assumption that Jacob posted is generally reasonable. But it needn't necessarily follow that the conformation we see in crystal structures is always representative of the solution state; given the extreme range of conditions in which crystals grow,

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Damian Ekiert
Along the lines of Roger's second point, there was a very nice paper a few years back that found very good agreement between the conformational ensemble sampled by ubiquitin in solution (by NMR) with the ensemble of conformations observed in a large number of crystal structures: Lange OF,

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Jacob Keller
Isn't calcium-calmodulin one of the archetypical examples of the crystal structure probably not representing the solution structure (perhaps because the crystallization pH = 4.5)? Look at that linker helix--how stable can that be in solution? I don't think a single one of the NMR ca-calmodulin

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Jon Agirre
Hi Nat, there are a number of viruses in which a domain swap occurs inside the capsid, with the hinge sequence being highly conserved among their respective families. Perhaps I'm missing your point, but I won't attribute that kind of domain swap to any sort of crystal packing artifact. Jon

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Mark Wilson
Hi Jacob, For Ca2+-CaM, and flexible proteins in general, the average conformation in solution may differ from the most crystallizable conformation. However, any crystallized conformation had to be sampled in solution at some point in order to form a crystal, and thus the crystal structure

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Zhijie Li
Hi, There is a interesting paper/tool that might shed a little light on the debate here: The paper: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19956261 The tool: http://ucxray.berkeley.edu/ringer/Documentation/ringerManual.htm#Utility As I remember, this tool claimed to be able to extract information