[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Weird MR result

2013-11-15 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Niu, To me, it looks like random density. Since coot contours are based on sigma levels, you will always see features. I do not think you can do anything with your current map. As others have said, it is always a good idea to test ALL possible space groups, even if you are convinced it is

[ccp4bb] ccp4 man-pages

2013-11-15 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear all, I am sorry about this 'double' post, but I had no reply on ccp4bb-dev within about three weeks. I wonder if I was the only one using the ccp4 man-pages. They were available until ccp4-6.3 but seem to be absent in the latest version. I

Re: [ccp4bb] Weird MR result

2013-11-15 Thread Randy Read
The 95% off-origin peak in the Patterson might be telling you that the true space group has a centering operation that was missed, or the cell was doubled, in the indexing step (i.e. systematically absent spots are being indexed and integrated). If the zeros for systematically absent spots are

Re: [ccp4bb] Weird MR result

2013-11-15 Thread Melanie Vollmar
Dear Niu, I had an interesting pseudo-translation case recently where my off-origin peak was located near the centre of the unit cell (fractions a=0.5, b=0.46, c=0.5) of a P222 symmetry. Processing and phasing in P222 looked reasonable and the model could be built. I had background density

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 man-pages

2013-11-15 Thread Ian Tickle
I agree completely with Tim: I use 'man' (or 'info' for gfortran the like) all the time - but then I'm a die-hard command-liner/shell-scripter who never uses ccp4i! I haven't got around to installing 6.4 yet but if when I do I find the man pages missing as Tim says I'll probably copy over the

[ccp4bb] Problem with aimless/ctruncate

2013-11-15 Thread Rafal Dolot
Dear CCP4 users, After last update of CCP4 package for Windows (I work on Win8.1) I found some error during use of aimless with ctruncate. The output from log looks like this: *** * Information from CCP4Interface script

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 man-pages

2013-11-15 Thread Edward A. Berry
(assuming of course the .doc files aren't also missing). CDOC: Undefined variable. [berry@sbserv ~]$ ls $CCP4/doc ls: cannot access /sw/lnx/ccp4-6.4.0/doc: No such file or directory I second the request for continued man pages and .doc files Ian Tickle wrote: I agree completely with Tim: I

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 man-pages

2013-11-15 Thread Phil Evans
AFAICS the .doc files look as if they were auto-generated from the .html files in 6.3.0. Certainly the only documentation I have written for Pointless and Aimless is in html Phil On 15 Nov 2013, at 14:33, Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.edu wrote: (assuming of course the .doc files aren't

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 man-pages

2013-11-15 Thread Martyn Winn
Many, many years ago, the man pages used to be nroff-formatted .1 files. We converted these to html files, and used lynx to automatically generate ASCII .doc files which could be used as man pages. AFAIK this is still the case. I mention this in case anyone wants to get nostalgic about

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 man-pages

2013-11-15 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Martyn, thanks for the hint about lynx. I could create the 'man'-pages with # cd $CHTML # mkdir ../doc # for i in *.html; do lynx -dump $i ../doc/${i%html}doc; done # bash makeman.sh That's good enough for me. Regards, Tim On 11/15/2013

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 man-pages

2013-11-15 Thread Martyn Winn
Yes, that's more or less what we do/did. It was in a makefile somewhere. Cheers Martyn -Original Message- From: Tim Gruene [mailto:t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de] Sent: 15 November 2013 15:00 To: Winn, Martyn (STFC,DL,SC) Cc: ccp4bb Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 man-pages -BEGIN PGP

Re: [ccp4bb] Weird MR result

2013-11-15 Thread Niu Tou
It may be helpful to add some information during index. HKL2000 could find four reasonable solutions: 40, 32, 101, 90, 101, 90 for P1 and P2 200, 40, 32, 90, 90, 90 for C2 and C222 It looks very strange to me since these two unit cells look differently, but during refinement the predicated spots

[ccp4bb] searching for your problem datasets

2013-11-15 Thread Collins, Edward J
Hi Folks, As many of you may know, Andy Torelli and I have been co-chairing sessions at the yearly American Crystallographic Association meetings that deal with the nuts and bolts about how to determine crystal structures. Next May in Albuquerque, NM, we are hosting a session called

[ccp4bb] International School of Crystallography - Erice (Italy) 2014 - Final announcement

2013-11-15 Thread Scapin, Giovanna
The 47th Course of the International School of Crystallography: Structural Basis of Pharmacology: Deeper Understanding of Drug Discovery through Crystallography will be held in Erice (Italy) May 30 - June 8, 2014. More details are available below. An up-to-date program can be found in the