Re: [ccp4bb] Hosed-Up X-Ray Structures: A Big Problem

2014-06-13 Thread Ute Krengel
Hei Tom, We may not be able to prevent deposition of dodgy structures, but we could at least give optimal support to those of us wanting to do a good job. With respect to ligands, the support could sometimes be better - thinking in particular of carbohydrate ligands. Best, Ute

Re: [ccp4bb] SAXS facility and Cryo EM facility

2014-06-13 Thread David Flot
Dear Ruby, They are a dedicated beam line for Biological Sample at the ESRF (BM29); informations are here: http://www.esrf.eu/UsersAndScience/Experiments/MX/About_our_beamlines/BM29 and scheme to apply is here:

Re: [ccp4bb] CNS MR Help

2014-06-13 Thread Randy Read
Dear Appu, If it is possible to solve your structure with currently available MR models using any currently existing technology, one of these programs will be able to do it. Throwing yet another program at the problem won’t help, especially an older program that was good in its time (and is

Re: [ccp4bb] Hosed-Up X-Ray Structures: A Big Problem

2014-06-13 Thread Frank von Delft
I sense someone should quickly point out, on behalf of the developers (I assume it's they that are requested to magically give optimal support), that it's not for want of awareness, intelligence or diligence that this functions are suboptimal: it's want of TIME. As Paul suggested, in ccp4

Re: [ccp4bb] Hosed-Up X-Ray Structures: A Big Problem

2014-06-13 Thread Tim Gruene
Hi Ethan, Maybe I miss something, but whenever an error in one of the cif-files has been reported, be it directly to Garib, or publicly on the ccp4bb, Garib (I assume) fixed very quickly - I don't quite understand why we need a new term for this process? Best, Tim On 06/12/2014 10:45 PM, Ethan

[ccp4bb] Postdoctoral position at Karolinska Institutet

2014-06-13 Thread Luca Jovine
A postdoctoral position is available immediately on structural studies of protein-protein interactions at the core of the human Hedgehog signaling pathway, as part of a long-term collaboration between the laboratories of Rune Toftgård and Luca Jovine at the Department of Biosciences and

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 ligand tools + wwPDB validation = bug reports?

2014-06-13 Thread Marcin Wojdyr
Dear Ethan, Alexander Schuettelkopf has sent us modified PRODRG parameter file to fix this issue. We'll distribute it in CCP4 updates soon. If you'd like to test it now, the prodrg.param file is here:

[ccp4bb] Invisible atoms in ligands

2014-06-13 Thread Frank von Delft
Hi all - talking about ligands, a quick question on that old conundrum, of what to do about invisible atoms -- build them with occ=0, or omit them? For bits of protein, I know all the arguments; personally I prefer omitting atoms because: * for amino acid sidechains, their presence is

Re: [ccp4bb] Invisible atoms in ligands

2014-06-13 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Frank, if you can calculate their position, i.e. it is part of a rigid group, I would leave it. If it is flexible, I would remove it because the reader of my deposited structure may not be a crystallographer and misinterpret the result. If it is

Re: [ccp4bb] Invisible atoms in ligands

2014-06-13 Thread Marco Mazzorana
Hi Frank, I agree with what Tim has just posted. Personally I would not think occupancy=0, since this would mean the atom is not where you placed it (i.e. nowhere near). This could be useful if all your ligand has the same partial occupancy or, if you have multiple poses, the sum of occupancies

[ccp4bb] 2nd International Workshop on Pontin/RUVBL1 Reptin/RUVBL2 - 3rd Announcement

2014-06-13 Thread Pedro M. Matias
Dear CCP4ers, We would like to remind you that the registration for this workshop, that will take place in very nice surroundings in Oeiras (Portugal) next October 10-12, is still open. The Workshop will divided into 5 sessions covering the following topics: - Structural Biology - Chromatin

Re: [ccp4bb] Invisible atoms in ligands

2014-06-13 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Tim, The problem with missing atoms in ligands is that you cannot use the coordinates for any follow-up calculation that requires ligand topology (e.g. restraint generation). That forces you to rely on the annotation of the compound, for instance at the PDB. That can be quite messy and

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2014-06-13 Thread avinash singh
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Re: [ccp4bb] Www

2014-06-13 Thread Ian Clifton
avinash singh avns.si...@gmail.com writes: wwdwwwy Wow, imagine the fluorescence from that… -- Ian ◎

Re: [ccp4bb] Www

2014-06-13 Thread David Briggs
Solubility issues though? Dr David C Briggs PhD http://about.me/david_briggs On 13 Jun 2014 11:45, Ian Clifton ian.clif...@chem.ox.ac.uk wrote: avinash singh avns.si...@gmail.com writes: wwdwwwy Wow, imagine the fluorescence from that… -- Ian ◎

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 ligand tools + wwPDB validation = bug reports?

2014-06-13 Thread Alexander Schuettelkopf
On 13/06/2014 03:43, Paul Emsley wrote: On 13/06/14 00:19, Ethan A Merritt wrote: snip This is a known problem with cprodrg - no need to report it. Cprodrg will undergo little to no maintainance from now on. Well, it was not known to me. While there is indeed little active development at

[ccp4bb] m_range_check error in aimless

2014-06-13 Thread Andreas Förster
Dear all, I'm trying to scale/merge mtz files in ccp4 (Pointless/Aimless/ctruncate/Rfree pipeline) and keep getting an UNHANDLED EXCEPTION: vector::_M_range_check at the end of the aimless step, right after the standard deviation v. intensity tables. The output mtz file is not written and

Re: [ccp4bb] m_range_check error in aimless

2014-06-13 Thread Phil Evans
What version of Aimless are you running? I thought I had fixed that bug Phil On 13 Jun 2014, at 11:59, Andreas Förster docandr...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I'm trying to scale/merge mtz files in ccp4 (Pointless/Aimless/ctruncate/Rfree pipeline) and keep getting an UNHANDLED EXCEPTION:

Re: [ccp4bb] Invisible atoms in ligands

2014-06-13 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Robbie, maybe it is good not to use coordinates for calculations if you cannot measure the coordinates? Cheers, Tim On 06/13/2014 12:35 PM, Robbie Joosten wrote: Hi Tim, The problem with missing atoms in ligands is that you cannot use the

Re: [ccp4bb] Invisible atoms in ligands

2014-06-13 Thread Isaac Westwood
Hi Tim, The problem I see with including atoms with no density is that the one place you can guarantee those atoms are not (at 100% occupancy), is at the coordinates assigned to them. I would argue that the scientific inaccuracy of such a model should outweigh the desire to use the coordinates

Re: [ccp4bb] Invisible atoms in ligands

2014-06-13 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Tim, The decision of which atoms you can and cannot see in your map is rather subjective. Also the way you generate your map can make a big (enough) difference. A new map after additional refinement, an NCS averaged map, or a feature-enhanced map might show you the position of (some of) the

Re: [ccp4bb] Invisible atoms in ligands

2014-06-13 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Robbie, Frank probably meant the status of the model when the author is ready for deposition, i.e., already after additional refinement. The B-factor assumes a harmonic oscillation of its atom on a linear trajectory (maybe the superposition of

[ccp4bb] GRC and GRS on Diffraction Methods in Structural Biology 7/27/2014 - 8/1/2014

2014-06-13 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
Dear all, As I did give the full promotional message for why these are just outstanding meetings to attend, I will only invite you to look at the latest programs GRC (http://www.grc.org/programs.aspx?id=11654) GRS (http://www.grc.org/programs.aspx?year=2014program=grs_diff).

Re: [ccp4bb] Hosed-Up X-Ray Structures: A Big Problem

2014-06-13 Thread Engin Özkan
Do those fixes also make it to the phenix version of the library? Yes, this is the CCP4bb, but the monomer library is also used by Phenix, and a good number of structures (almost half of those deposited this year?) in the PDB now come from phenix.refine. Or in other words, is there a central,

[ccp4bb] Postdoctoral Position at Cancer Research UK, London Research Institute.

2014-06-13 Thread Andrew Purkiss
To all who may be interested. Neil McDonald has asked me to forward this message to the bulletin board. Please reply to him at neil.mcdon...@cancer.org.uk and NOT to me. Thanks Andrew = Postdoctoral Position (4 years),

Re: [ccp4bb] Hosed-Up X-Ray Structures: A Big Problem

2014-06-13 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Friday, 13 June 2014 10:12:50 AM Tim Gruene wrote: Hi Ethan, Maybe I miss something, but whenever an error in one of the cif-files has been reported, be it directly to Garib, or publicly on the ccp4bb, Garib (I assume) fixed very quickly - I don't quite understand why we need a new term

[ccp4bb] Position for a Research Technician at the Membrane Protein Laboratory at Diamond Light Source

2014-06-13 Thread Dr. Isabel De Moraes
To all who might be interested We are seeking a full-time Research Technician to work at the Membrane Protein Laboratory (MPL) located at the Diamond Light Source in Oxfordshire. The MPL at Diamond Light Source is a Wellcome Trust funded facility created in collaboration between Imperial

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 ligand tools + wwPDB validation = bug reports?

2014-06-13 Thread Paul Emsley
On 13/06/14 11:39, Alexander Schuettelkopf wrote: On 13/06/2014 03:43, Paul Emsley wrote: On 13/06/14 00:19, Ethan A Merritt wrote: snip This is a known problem with cprodrg - no need to report it. Cprodrg will undergo little to no maintainance from now on. Well, it was not known to me. While

[ccp4bb] CCP4-6.4.0 Update 018

2014-06-13 Thread Andrey Lebedev
Dear CCP4 Users An update for the CCP4-6.4.0 series has just been released, consisting of the following changes • refmac5 (all platforms): – Fixed restraints for M- and P-peptides – Fixed SAD scaling issue • monomers (all): – Fixed description for M- and P-peptides and some other entries