Re: [ccp4bb] P21221 to P21212 conversion

2012-05-07 Thread Jacob Keller
Is it true that HKL adopts the naming convention of putting the screw axes first and then naming abc if possible, whereas CCP4 just makes the cell abc? E.g., would HKL ever output by default a p22121 dataset, or would it automatically be p21212? JPK On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Ethan Merritt

Re: [ccp4bb] P21221 to P21212 conversion

2012-05-07 Thread Jacob Keller
affected is quite small, of course. Phil Jeffrey Princeton On 5/7/12 4:48 PM, Jacob Keller wrote: Is it true that HKL adopts the naming convention of putting the screw axes first and then naming abc if possible, whereas CCP4 just makes the cell abc? E.g., would HKL ever output

Re: [ccp4bb] effective iodide conc. for SAD data

2012-05-03 Thread Jacob Keller
I have wondered for a long time now why it is not standard practice for all crystallization protein stocks to contain either Br- or I- ions instead of Cl-, even for cationic buffers like TRIS, which could be titrated with HBr or HI to get in the 10+ mM range. Also, one could use Cs or Rb for the

Re: [ccp4bb] Suggestions for solving a structure with 8-10 copies per asymmetric unit

2012-04-30 Thread Jacob Keller
Why not run a number of jobs in parallel with varying numbers of monomers/asu? JPK On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:20 PM, mjvdwo...@netscape.net wrote: Provided that you guess the number of copies and your guess is reasonably close, my experience is that Phaser will do the job. But you have to tell

Re: [ccp4bb] detergent crystal?

2012-04-27 Thread Jacob Keller
Wouldn't the lack of solubility of the alpha form of DDM suggest an easy purification protocol for the beta form? JPK On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:40 AM, R. M. Garavito rmgarav...@gmail.comwrote: Hongjun, I am in agreement with Bert as DDM is exceedingly difficult to crystallize, even in

Re: [ccp4bb] detergent crystal?

2012-04-26 Thread Jacob Keller
Those don't look like DDM crystals I've seen, but the diffraction pattern does not look much like protein diffraction either. Which things from the picture did you shoot--the rods/needles? Jacob On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:07 AM, 于洪军 hongju...@moon.ibp.ac.cn wrote: Hi, I am trying to screen

Re: [ccp4bb] resolution on PDB web page

2012-04-25 Thread Jacob Keller
I had heard that there was a world-wide Tungsten shortage, but this is ridiculous! JPK On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:29 PM, H. Raaijmakers hraaijmak...@xs4all.nlwrote: That's nothing. Once someone wrote me because the tungsten atom of my Tungsten containing formate dehydrogenase had dissapeared.

Re: [ccp4bb] iMosflm version 1.0.6 Mosflm version 7.0.8

2012-04-16 Thread Jacob Keller
Where can one find a discussion of the differences between Aimless and Scala? JPK On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Harry Powell ha...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.ukwrote: Dear all We are pleased to announce the public release of new versions of iMosflm and Mosflm. We have addressed many bugs and

Re: [ccp4bb] negative difference density around sulphur and oxygen atoms

2012-04-04 Thread Jacob Keller
I look forward to hearing from others how best to handle this in refinement. Dose-dependent occupancies (tau of an exponential decay function?) refined against unmerged data JPK *** Jacob Pearson Keller Northwestern University Medical Scientist

[ccp4bb] Requested: Three-Day Data Fabrication Workshop

2012-04-02 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear CCP4BB, due to increasing demand, it seems we should put together a workshop on data fabrication, covering the various important topics (chaired by JHo): --Images: the future of fabrication? How long can we rely on database Luddism? --Ways out: how to leave a trail of accidental data

Re: [ccp4bb] Requested: Three-Day Data Fabrication Workshop

2012-04-02 Thread Jacob Keller
hat is off to them. Best regards, Jim On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu wrote: Dear CCP4BB, due to increasing demand, it seems we should put together a workshop on data fabrication, covering the various important topics (chaired by JHo

Re: [ccp4bb] Requested: Three-Day Data Fabrication Workshop

2012-04-02 Thread Jacob Keller
, Jim On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu wrote: Dear CCP4BB, due to increasing demand, it seems we should put together a workshop on data fabrication, covering the various important topics (chaired by JHo): --Images: the future

Re: [ccp4bb] very informative - Trends in Data Fabrication

2012-04-02 Thread Jacob Keller
I like your point--somehow we should enlist the evil inclination to power our science, a la Faust. How is it that those hackers are so innovative for so little reward? I remember a Smithsonian article years ago which quoted the calculated mean $/hr rate of money counterfeiters as being

Re: [ccp4bb] a small trick for protein and organic compound cocrystallization.

2012-03-30 Thread Jacob Keller
What's the harm? Seems relevant to crystallographers, and not for self-promotion, but just to help, share an interesting tip. Perhaps you can think of it as a response to an un-asked but plausible question, i.e., how can I treat my coverslips to make them more receptive to organic

[ccp4bb] Refining Against Reflections?

2012-03-19 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, it occurred to me that most datasets, at least certainly since the advent of synchrotrons, have probably some degree of radiation damage, if not some huge degree thereof. Therefore, I was thinking an exposure-dependent parameter might be introduced into the atomic models,

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining Against Reflections?

2012-03-19 Thread Jacob Keller
Of *Jacob Keller *Sent:* Monday, March 19, 2012 7:46 AM *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK *Subject:* [ccp4bb] Refining Against Reflections? ** ** Dear Crystallographers, ** ** it occurred to me that most datasets, at least certainly since the advent of synchrotrons, have probably some

Re: [ccp4bb] protein stain, B-PER

2012-03-15 Thread Jacob Keller
Switch ethanol in the stain. Also, there was talk a while ago about making your own instant blue stains--it works like bradford reagent, I think. Perhaps look back at previous postings? JPK On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Thomas Edwards t.a.edwa...@leeds.ac.ukwrote: Dear BB, Apologies for

Re: [ccp4bb] protein stain, B-PER

2012-03-15 Thread Jacob Keller
Hey, that was my post! NB this cannot be used for native gels, I don't think. Jacob On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Cécile Breyton cecile.brey...@ibs.frwrote: Hi Ed, A few years back there has been a thread on copper staining that leads to negative staining, but works well, is very fast

Re: [ccp4bb] Differentiate salt and protein crystals

2012-03-15 Thread Jacob Keller
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Jon Agirre jon.agi...@gmail.com wrote: The best reproduction I can suggest would be to setup one or two LCP experiments exchanging the protein for its buffer. If you get crystals, you know for sure they're not protein. It should be pointed out that the

Re: [ccp4bb] sudden drop in R/Rfree

2012-03-02 Thread Jacob Keller
(*) ADP = Atomic Displacement Parameters But aren't *isotropic* b-factors subsumed under this TLA (three-letter acronym?) JPK On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Ian Tickle ianj...@gmail.com wrote: (*) ADP = Atomic Displacement Parameters or anisotropic displacement parameters? See

Re: [ccp4bb] sudden drop in R/Rfree

2012-03-02 Thread Jacob Keller
Can't there be a group of atoms? JPK On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Ian Tickle ianj...@gmail.com wrote: I'm aware of this document. Personally I prefer ADP = Atomic Displacement Parameters over anything ele, because, given that Atomic Displacement Parameters can be parameterized in

Re: [ccp4bb] HKL2000 indexing problem

2012-02-21 Thread Jacob Keller
Is the direction of rotation correct? I got some data that were going the wrong way once. JPK

Re: [ccp4bb] Aggregated protein for crystallization

2012-02-21 Thread Jacob Keller
Hey, it could be that you just have a big oligomer--any support for that in the relevant literature? A 10-mer would probably beat out an s200, no? Do you have any other way to ascertain the oligomeric state? Jacob On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Raji Edayathumangalam r...@brandeis.edu wrote:

Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation

2012-02-15 Thread Jacob Keller
You can also try putting a different affinity tag on the other terminus, and use that as a second step. JPK On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Xiaodi Yu uppsala@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Sivasankar: Are you sure it is due to the protein degradation? Maybe you can try to do a western blot or

Re: [ccp4bb] surface residue mutation

2012-02-15 Thread Jacob Keller
Are there any all-D proteins out there, of known structure or otherwise? If so, do enantiomer-specific catalyses become inverted? JPK On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 8:05 AM, David Schuller dj...@cornell.edu wrote: Wukovitz Yeates (1995) Nature Struc. Biol. 2(12): 1062-1067 predicts that the most

[ccp4bb] All-D World

2012-02-15 Thread Jacob Keller
isomerase or set of isomerases of appropriate properties, this could be helpful for getting the culture started--or even for preying on the L world? On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:17 PM, David Schuller dj...@cornell.edu wrote: On 02/15/12 12:41, Jacob Keller wrote: Are there any all-D proteins out

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots--Summary

2012-02-15 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, thanks for all of the responses and conversation. I have culled together the various references which have been sent on the BB and which I have come up with, and posted them below. Worthy of special mention, I think, is the first one (Lange et al), in which 46 (!)

Re: [ccp4bb] choice of wavelength

2012-02-15 Thread Jacob Keller
Street, W8708 Baltimore, MD 21205 Phone: +1-410-614-4742 Lab:      +1-410-614-4894 Fax:      +1-410-955-3655 http://web.mac.com/bosch_lab/ On Feb 15, 2012, at 18:08, Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu wrote: I would say the better practice would be to collect higher multiplicity

Re: [ccp4bb] All-D World

2012-02-15 Thread Jacob Keller
15, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Jacob Keller wrote: So who out there wants to start an all-D microbial culture by total synthesis, a la the bacterium with the synthetic genome a while back? Could it work, I wonder? I guess that would be a certain benchmark for Man's conquest of nature. JPK ps maybe

[ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, I am looking for references which discuss the validity of the assertion that multiple crystal structures of the same or similar proteins can be considered freeze-frame snapshots of actual conformations assumed in solution. In a way, the assertion seems almost definitely

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Jacob Keller
How could they not be snapshots of conformations adopted in solution? Let me clarify--sorry about that. Consider several structures of the same protein solved under different conditions, or several homologs solved under similar conditions, or both. Further, let's say some structural element,

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Jacob Keller
Interesting to juxtapose these two responses: James Stroud: How could they not be snapshots of conformations adopted in solution? David Schuller: How could that possibly be the case when any structure is an average of all the unit cells of the crystal over the timespan of the diffraction

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Jacob Keller
Isn't calcium-calmodulin one of the archetypical examples of the crystal structure probably not representing the solution structure (perhaps because the crystallization pH = 4.5)? Look at that linker helix--how stable can that be in solution? I don't think a single one of the NMR ca-calmodulin

Re: [ccp4bb] Freezing crystal

2012-02-07 Thread Jacob Keller
One last thing--sometimes crystals can be frozen as is, particularly if you use mitegen mounts and get nearly all of the mother liquor off the crystals by dabbing the loop on the dry surface next to the drop several times. So simple it is always worth a try JPK On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:37

[ccp4bb] Invisible Reference on Pubmed?

2012-02-07 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear CCP4BB, this is perhaps my most egregious off-topic post, but can anyone explain why the following reference is not findable in PubMed? I can get it from the ACS website, but not on PubMed or elsewhere. The journal is on PubMed--is it perhaps because it's funded by ExxonMobil? Very

Re: [ccp4bb] Invisible Reference on Pubmed?

2012-02-07 Thread Jacob Keller
Well, perhaps it is because size exclusion chromatography is used so little in the life sciences؟, and who really cares how it works anyway?؟ JPK On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Matthew Franklin mfrank...@nysbc.org wrote: On 2/7/12 4:02 PM, Jacob Keller wrote: Dear CCP4BB, this is perhaps

Re: [ccp4bb] Freezing crystal

2012-02-07 Thread Jacob Keller
Sad was the day when I mounted this puppy and it shot to 8-10A. Room temperature. And messing around with cryos didn't help either. But if that puppy had been smaller, it might have diffracted even worse, and just think if that little icy crystal had been bigger... JPK Can't remember the

Re: [ccp4bb] Reasoning for Rmeas or Rpim as Cutoff

2012-01-30 Thread Jacob Keller
in reciprocal space should perhaps be an ellipsoid, not a sphere.  I know there are several programs for anisotropic scaling, but I'm not aware of any that apply anisotropic resolution cutoffs (or even whether this would be advisable). Cheers -- Ian On 27 January 2012 17:47, Jacob

Re: [ccp4bb] Reasoning for Rmeas or Rpim as Cutoff

2012-01-30 Thread Jacob Keller
space should perhaps be an ellipsoid, not a sphere.  I know there are several programs for anisotropic scaling, but I'm not aware of any that apply anisotropic resolution cutoffs (or even whether this would be advisable). Cheers -- Ian On 27 January 2012 17:47, Jacob Keller j

[ccp4bb] Reasoning for Rmeas or Rpim as Cutoff

2012-01-27 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, I cannot think why any of the various flavors of Rmerge/meas/pim should be used as a data cutoff and not simply I/sigma--can somebody make a good argument or point me to a good reference? My thinking is that signal:noise of 2 is definitely still signal, no matter what the

Re: [ccp4bb] Reasoning for Rmeas or Rpim as Cutoff

2012-01-27 Thread Jacob Keller
Clarification: I did not mean I/sigma of 2 per se, I just meant I/sigma is more directly a measure of signal than R values. JPK On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu wrote: Dear Crystallographers, I cannot think why any of the various flavors of Rmerge

Re: [ccp4bb] Introducing an ELN

2012-01-26 Thread Jacob Keller
Can't you get a plug-in for that? JPK On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Dale Tronrud det...@uoxray.uoregon.edu wrote:   Unless you have written on the paper using cursive script.  Many schools in the US have stopped teaching longhand reading/writing so in a generation or two many paper

Re: [ccp4bb] Expression of Viral proteins for crystallography

2012-01-24 Thread Jacob Keller
Inspired by the recent post about quasispecies: I have been bothered recently by the following problem: why do species of genetic uniformity exist at all (or do they?)? This first came up when I saw a Nature paper describing live bacteria extracted from a supposedly 250-million-year-old salt

[ccp4bb] Quasispecies

2012-01-24 Thread Jacob Keller
Whoops--I meant to change the subject line, so if you want to reply, please use this one not to perturb the original post. JPK Inspired by the recent post about quasispecies: I have been bothered recently by the following problem: why do species of genetic uniformity exist at all (or do

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein Fold Motifs- off-topic

2012-01-20 Thread Jacob Keller
A very similar question: how about smaller motifs, such as various turn types, etc.? JPK On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Jeff Headd jjhe...@lbl.gov wrote: Hi Yuri, I don't know of a cheat-sheet, but I find the Introduction to Protein Structure book by Branden and Tooze to useful for

Re: [ccp4bb] extra density ??

2012-01-19 Thread Jacob Keller
Who says this is on a twofold? Also, it would be very helpful to know what was in the crystallization condition. JPK On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:44 AM, stacy William stacy.biot...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All,  I am working on plant proteins and solved a structure, there is an extra density which

Re: [ccp4bb] native gels

2012-01-19 Thread Jacob Keller
I have actually done this by running a normal PAGE gel without stacking gel and switching the electrodes, which seemed to work swimmingly. JPK On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Katherine Sippel katherine.sip...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rashmi, In my experience native (even blue native) on proteins

Re: [ccp4bb] Merging data collected at two different wavelength

2012-01-18 Thread Jacob Keller
By the way, I wouldn't use MAD to describe the mergeing of non-isomorphous datasets.  Strictly speaking, MAD is at least an attempt to measure both anomalous (f) and dispersive (f') differences, and I don't think it is appropriate to use the term MAD when you know the dispersive signal is

Re: [ccp4bb] Merging data collected at two different wavelength

2012-01-18 Thread Jacob Keller
That is excellent! You refer obviously to the multiple anomalous discussions on the bb? (Maybe d = disagreement?) JPK On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:42 AM, D Bonsor dbon...@ihv.umaryland.edu wrote: Isn't it true that we cannot even agree on what MAD stands for? Is the following right? M =

Re: [ccp4bb] Merging data collected at two different wavelength

2012-01-18 Thread Jacob Keller
Can I be dogmatic about this ? I wish you could, but I don't think so, because even though those sources call it that, others don't. I agree with your thinking, but usage is usage. a SAD experiment is a single wavelength experiment where you are using the anomalous/dispersive signals for

Re: [ccp4bb] Merging data collected at two different wavelength

2012-01-18 Thread Jacob Keller
This begs the question* whether you want the lemmings to understand you. One theory of language, gotten more or less from Strunk and White's Elements of Style, is that the most important feature of language is its transparency to the underlying thoughts. Bad language breaks the transparency,

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular Transform Superimposed on a Dataset

2012-01-13 Thread Jacob Keller
No, I meant the non-lattice-convoluted pattern--the pattern arising from the Fourier-transformed electron density map--which would necessarily become more complicated with larger molecular size, as there is more information to encode. I think this will manifest in what James H called a smaller

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular Transform Superimposed on a Dataset

2012-01-13 Thread Jacob Keller
, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Dale Tronrud det...@uoxray.uoregon.edu wrote: On 01/13/12 09:53, Jacob Keller wrote: No, I meant the non-lattice-convoluted pattern--the pattern arising from the Fourier-transformed electron density map--which would necessarily become more complicated with larger molecular

Re: [ccp4bb] DDM crystals

2012-01-11 Thread Jacob Keller
What exactly is your question--I saw tons of crystals of DDM and PEGs, I think especially P400, if I recall correctly. JPK On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Patrick Loll pat.l...@drexel.edu wrote: Does anyone have any experience with formation of crystals of dodecyl maltoside in the presence of

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular Transform Superimposed on a Dataset

2012-01-10 Thread Jacob Keller
the crystal. - - What makes you think the pattern from a larger molecule would have a more complex pattern? Cheers, Tim On 01/10/2012 12:13 AM, Jacob Keller wrote: I like that animation a lot, as it shows the gradual nature of the lattice effect, but it is not exactly what I am looking for. I am

Re: [ccp4bb] Sub-angstrom resolution

2012-01-10 Thread Jacob Keller
I think once you start getting down to such small crystals, the spots are not really important, as the pattern starts getting continuous. Interestingly enough, I guess for single-molecule diffraction, resolution is limited only by radiation damage, and not by any sort of lattice disorder (or even

[ccp4bb] Always Modelling Anomalous Signal

2012-01-10 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, it seems to me that on a certain level we are always throwing away (sort of) about half of our data when we merge Bijvoet pairs--why shouldn't we keep them separate, since we know that they should be a little bit different, especially in light of the higher multiplicities

Re: [ccp4bb] R-Sym statistics in solved structures

2012-01-09 Thread Jacob Keller
Also R cryst is sometimes used for the same number, I think (of course there are historical reasons for the different terms, but...). JPK On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Ed Pozharski epozh...@umaryland.edu wrote: On Mon, 2012-01-09 at 10:28 +, Guillaume Gotthard wrote: Is there a mean to

Re: [ccp4bb] Sub-angstrom resolution

2012-01-09 Thread Jacob Keller
The word theory in this thread/question has to be clarified better. Jacob On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, in my opinion the resolution limit of crystals from large complexes/ membrane proteins is

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular Transform Superimposed on a Dataset

2012-01-09 Thread Jacob Keller
/ This program is a relative of nearBragg, which Dale already mentioned. -James Holton MAD Scientist On Jan 6, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu wrote: Actually, as a way to make this type of figure, I think there are programs which output simulated diffraction

Re: [ccp4bb] Molecular Transform Superimposed on a Dataset

2012-01-06 Thread Jacob Keller
the continuous molecular transform. I think this would amount to the same thing as the molecular transform of the model itself--am I right? Does anyone know which software outputs simulated diffraction images? Jacob On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu wrote

Re: [ccp4bb] From non-twinned to twinned?

2012-01-04 Thread Jacob Keller
Need more info: how many degrees per frame? Also, on integration, do various stats change over the 'sets? JPK On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Zhiyi Wei ustcwebri...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I recently collected a dataset (~2000 frames) from a single crystal. If merge first 600 frames

[ccp4bb] Pore Dimension Convention

2011-12-14 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, is there a convention for denoting/measuring pore sizes in protein structures? Maybe inter-atom distances minus van der Waals radii? JPK -- *** Jacob Pearson Keller Northwestern University Medical Scientist Training Program email:

Re: [ccp4bb] symmetry for ages 6 and up

2011-12-13 Thread Jacob Keller
Does anyone know where one can acquire some Penrose tiles? I think they'd be great toys as well, and drive you a little bonkers. Maybe a kitchen/bathroom floor made from them? Jacob On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 5:03 PM, VAN RAAIJ , MARK JOHAN mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es wrote: reminds me of these

Re: [ccp4bb] artificial tetramer

2011-12-12 Thread Jacob Keller
Can you clarify your reason for doing this? JPK On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Fred ccp4bb.l...@gmail.com wrote: Hi James, In my first post arbitrary orientation into the cell only means not parallel to any crystallographic axis, which would simplify things very much. I want to apply the

[ccp4bb] Reference for Resolution Cutoffs

2011-12-06 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, I hate to broach this subject again due to its wildly controversial nature, but I was wondering whether there was any reference which systematically analyses resolution cutoffs as a function of I/sig, Rmerge, Rmeas, Rpim, etc. I strongly dislike Rmerge/Rcryst for

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic and Physiologic but not Solution Oligomers

2011-12-06 Thread Jacob Keller
Gaudet EGFR kinase--thanks to Markus Seeliger FokI nuclease--thanks to Artem Evdokimov NKR-P1 receptors--thanks to Jan Dohnalek Insulin--thanks to Eleanor Dodson All the best, Jacob Keller -- *** Jacob Pearson Keller Northwestern University Medical

Re: [ccp4bb] Reference for Resolution Cutoffs

2011-12-06 Thread Jacob Keller
Hi Ethan, thanks for pushing me to clarify--see below. I hate to broach this subject again due to its wildly controversial nature, but I was wondering whether there was any reference which systematically analyses resolution cutoffs as a function of I/sig, Rmerge, Rmeas, Rpim, etc. I strongly

Re: [ccp4bb] Reference for Resolution Cutoffs

2011-12-06 Thread Jacob Keller
alternatives. That is not the same ... A. On 6 Dec 2011, at 21:44, Ed Pozharski wrote: On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 13:43 -0600, Jacob Keller wrote: The question is: is there a reference in which Rmerge has been thoroughly, clearly, and authoritatively discredited as a data evaluation metric

Re: [ccp4bb] Superpositions: Deviation by Residue

2011-11-29 Thread Jacob Keller
wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Jacob, Coot prints this information to the terminal, so you can start coot and 'tee' its output into a file. Tim On 11/28/2011 11:53 PM, Jacob Keller wrote: Let me refine my question (sorry for my lack of clarity

[ccp4bb] Crystallographic and Physiologic but not Solution Oligomers

2011-11-29 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, does anyone have any nice examples/references of proteins which form demonstrably physiologically-relevant oligomers in crystals, but which do not appear to do so in solution? I am thinking particularly that domains of membrane proteins which oligomerize primarily through

Re: [ccp4bb] Withdrawal of subscription

2011-11-29 Thread Jacob Keller
Just you wait--he'll be back...won't he? On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:11 PM, James Stroud xtald...@gmail.com wrote: With such a nice parting letter, we find it disheartening to let you go. James On Nov 29, 2011, at 7:44 PM, debanjan choudhuri wrote: To whom it may concern, I am writing

[ccp4bb] Superpositions: Deviation by Residue

2011-11-28 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, is there a ccp4 program--or otherwise--which can compute ca-ca distances of corresponding residues between two superposed structures? Jacob -- *** Jacob Pearson Keller Northwestern University Medical Scientist Training Program

Re: [ccp4bb] Superpositions: Deviation by Residue

2011-11-28 Thread Jacob Keller
Let me refine my question (sorry for my lack of clarity): is there a program that will output the distances between the corresponding ca's of a superposition on a residue-by-residue basis, and not just a global RMSD value (doubtless these numbers are part of the superposition algorithm itself)? I

Re: [ccp4bb] Anomalous signal for chlorides

2011-11-26 Thread Jacob Keller
Not that Phaser needs my approval, but I recently did exactly what Randy recommended and it really found basically all of the S and Cl sites, with data at resolution 2.2 Ang and wavelength 0.979 Ang, too. I also played a bit with the sigma cutoff for adding new sites so that the stronger sites (Se

Re: [ccp4bb] dark progression of radiation damage

2011-11-23 Thread Jacob Keller
I understand that absorbed dose increases with presence of heavy atoms, but I don't understand why that should play a role in damaging the crystal, as heavy atoms such as in cacodylate should probably usually not be near enough to protein atoms to cause problems. At 100K, isn't it true that

Re: [ccp4bb] Movements of domains

2011-11-21 Thread Jacob Keller
Just to clarify: I think the question is about the mathematical sense of significance, and not the functional or physiological significance, right? If I understand the question correctly, wouldn't the reasoning be that admittedly each atom in the model has a certain positional error, but all

Re: [ccp4bb] Movements of domains

2011-11-21 Thread Jacob Keller
I am curious how all of this can be more than splitting hairs, i.e., under what conditions can this 1Ang domain motion mean something biologically significant? Proteins are pretty flexible, after all, especially between domains. JPK On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 6:41 PM, James Stroud

[ccp4bb] Combining big MTZs

2011-11-18 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, I am getting an error when I try to merge two mtz's from mosflm, one with 180 and one with 360 frames, each from different but similar crystals--see below. I can't imagine this really exceeds the max number of records, so what am I doing wrong? Additionally but related,

Re: [ccp4bb] crystal orientation during data collection

2011-11-18 Thread Jacob Keller
Generally speaking, don't we agree that planned or rational is better than random? (Having trouble understanding the argument for randomness here...) Jacob On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Sanishvili, Ruslan rsanishv...@anl.gov wrote: Depending on the crystal shape, “random orientation” is not

Re: [ccp4bb] Combining big MTZs

2011-11-18 Thread Jacob Keller
with lots of memory  (and a 64-bit build) Phil On 18 Nov 2011, at 15:36, Jacob Keller wrote: Dear Crystallographers, I am getting an error when I try to merge two mtz's from mosflm, one with 180 and one with 360 frames, each from different but similar crystals--see below. I can't

Re: [ccp4bb] odd arginines

2011-11-17 Thread Jacob Keller
I also have seen similar. I was thinking it was potentially some kind of radiation damage? Is there a good paper which examines what chemistries are seen in rad damage? Jacob On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Eleanor Dodson c...@ysbl.york.ac.uk wrote: Yes - I have seen something similar at a

[ccp4bb] Distinguish NH4 from Na?

2011-11-16 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, I have crystals containing 666mM NH4 and 540mM Na, and there appears to be a water which is only about 2.2 Ang from some polar atoms. It is currently reasonably happy as a Na, but is there any reasonable way to decide which cation is there? JPK --

Re: [ccp4bb] Can I combine selenoMet data and MR model to solve the phase problem?

2011-11-15 Thread Jacob Keller
How about Phaser with partial MR structure? JPK On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Feng Guo fengg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, there, Maybe someone asked this question before, but I couldn't find it in the archive.  We use the native data to do molecular replacement before, but only part of

Re: [ccp4bb] Installation of CCP4 under Windows 7

2011-11-03 Thread Jacob Keller
Hmm, works fine for me. Maybe disable user account control? Jacob On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Jan Dohnalek dohnalek...@gmail.com wrote: does not seem to create anything runnable - please any experience here? I downloaded the latest Windows package all users - type. Installed under admin

Re: [ccp4bb] Off topic: Kendrew Model

2011-11-01 Thread Jacob Keller
Maybe you could refine it using our new-fangled methods to improve the model? (Couldn't resist such irony!) Jacob On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Katherine Sippel katherine.sip...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm going to interject into the middle of this rousing though protracted debate to pick

[ccp4bb] Best route from x-files to scala

2011-11-01 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, I would like to transfer data from x-files (HKL2000) into scala, and think that the best way to do it is to tell HKL no merge original index. Is that right, or is no merge include partials better? Jacob -- *** Jacob Pearson Keller

[ccp4bb] Archiving Images for PDB Depositions

2011-10-31 Thread Jacob Keller
painless, as it is merely an extension of the current system--just add a link to the pulldown menu! Best Regards, Jacob Keller -- *** Jacob Pearson Keller Northwestern University Medical Scientist Training Program email: j-kell...@northwestern.edu ***

Re: [ccp4bb] Archiving Images for PDB Depositions

2011-10-31 Thread Jacob Keller
. But unless I read the tenor of this discussion completely wrongly, opt-in is precisely what is not being proposed. Adrian Goldman Sent from my iPhone On 31 Oct 2011, at 18:02, Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu wrote: Dear Crystallographers, I am sending this to try to start a thread

Re: [ccp4bb] raw data deposition

2011-10-28 Thread Jacob Keller
What about a case in which two investigators have differences about what cutoff to apply to the data, for example, A thinks that Rsym of 50 should be used regardless of I/sig, and B thinks that I/sig of 2 and Rpim should be used. Usually A would cut off the data at a lower resolution than B,

Re: [ccp4bb] raw data deposition

2011-10-28 Thread Jacob Keller
From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Jacob Keller [j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 5:05 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] raw data deposition What about a case in which two investigators have

Re: [ccp4bb] raw data deposition

2011-10-27 Thread Jacob Keller
that would be I don't care, so that people who have no opinion do not get confused with those who have an articulate position against the proposal, and wh should then articulate it!     With best wishes,          Gerard. -- On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:30:20AM -0500, Jacob Keller wrote

Re: [ccp4bb] Weird blob appears

2011-10-27 Thread Jacob Keller
, Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu wrote: Dear Crystallographers, In the course of a reasonably smooth refinement, all of a sudden there is a huge worm-hole-type blob in the electron density (see pics). Has anyone seen this before? Is it some effect of the refinement over-fitting

Re: [ccp4bb] raw data deposition

2011-10-27 Thread Jacob Keller
Since this hasn't been brought up--there is the consideration that in 10 or more years maybe x-ray crystallography will be completely a thing of the past, with some kind of massively-superior modality taking over. Of course there is no way to bank on this, but I am wondering whether this is

Re: [ccp4bb] Weird blob appears

2011-10-27 Thread Jacob Keller
Blob is gone--something funny happened, I guess. I went back to using the original mtz from scala, removed and replaced a bunch of waters, and no more worm! I can't really figure it out, and wish I knew exactly what happened, but I think I am just going to non-chalantly move along. Jacob On

Re: [ccp4bb] IUCr committees, depositing images

2011-10-26 Thread Jacob Keller
Is anyone seriously questioning whether we should archive the images used for published structures? That amount of space is trivial, could be implemented just as another link in the PDB website, and would be really helpful in some cases. One person could set it up in a day! You could just make it

Re: [ccp4bb] IUCr committees, depositing images

2011-10-26 Thread Jacob Keller
Touche! But alas, I have no access to the PDB's server, so... JPK On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Frank von Delft frank.vonde...@sgc.ox.ac.uk wrote: Cool - we've found our volunteer!! On 26/10/2011 17:28, Jacob Keller wrote: Is anyone seriously questioning whether we should archive

[ccp4bb] WaterTidy fails in windows ccp4i

2011-10-19 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear CCP4ers, I am trying to run watertidy from the windows gui to add waters, but get the error message below. Since the gui is so short, I don't think I am missing anything, so what I am doing wrong? Is there an alternative water-picker in the gui? I used to use watpick, but I believe that was

Re: [ccp4bb] WaterTidy fails in windows ccp4i

2011-10-19 Thread Jacob Keller
, if not this one? There is of course arp/warp, but not in windows... Jacob On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Ed Pozharski epozh...@umaryland.edu wrote: On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 12:45 -0500, Jacob Keller wrote: Is there an alternative water-picker in the gui? watertidy is not a water-picker -- I'd jump

[ccp4bb] Cell Params as a Function of Temperature

2011-10-18 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, is anyone aware of references studying variation in cell params systematically as a function of temperature, with many points on the curve (not just RT and 100K?) Jacob Keller -- *** Jacob Pearson Keller Northwestern University

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