Happy New Year all,

Since I am not at the CCP4 weekend (which is happening right now), I would be 
curious to hear if this is/was discussed and what people think.

Carien

-----Original Message-----
From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Frank von Delft
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 10:21 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Future Diffraction Methods

This Message is from an External Sender. Do not click links or open attachments 
unless you trust the sender.

Shoot... that sucks.

Yes, we do need something!

"Structural Biology Methods"?


More interesting question:  does it need the GRC to host?  What about 
reimagining the CCP4 study weekend - the question keeps coming up there anyway.

That's one for CCP4 WG1 to discuss - they're meeting straight after New Year, 
so maybe James, you and Ivo should hop on a zoom and kick the idea around.

Frank



On 16/12/2022 22:10, James Holton wrote:
> I want to thank everyone who attended the 2022 Gordon Research 
> Conference and Gordon Research Seminar on Diffraction Methods in 
> Structural Biology, as well as all those who contributed to these 
> great gatherings in the past.  It was an outstanding meeting if I do 
> say so myself. Not just because it had been so long without in-person 
> interaction, not just because we had zero covid cases (which I see as 
> no small feat of Mind over Virus), but because of this amazing 
> community. It is rare in this world to have such a strong spirit of 
> collaboration, camaraderie and openness in undertakings as high-impact 
> as this. Surmounting the barriers to atomic-detail imaging of 
> biological systems has never been more exciting and more relevant.  I 
> am proud to be a part of it, and honored to have served as Chair.
>
> It is therefore with heavy heart that I report to this community that 
> I was the last Chair of the Diffraction Methods GRC.
>
> The GRC Conference Evaluation Committee 
> (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.grc.org/about/conference-eval
> uation-committee/__;!!N3hqHg43uw!seKRCwqf-9U5a5vpm19quTE94sOBoM1HzktB2
> NDBxOp6TFV8LC_s19p5TJcgvxfLfp8BheaUlg1wOfursEBNL8h62_DMr_f2M1U$ ) 
> voted this year to discontinue the Diffraction Methods GRC and GRS. 
> This ends a 46-year tradition that I feel played a vital, and vibrant 
> role in the work of the people who answer questions on this BB. The 
> reason given was insufficient attendance.  All other metrics, such as 
> evaluation surveys and demographics were very strong. I have tried to 
> appeal, but I'm told the vote was unanimous and final. I understand 
> that like so many conference organizing bodies the GRC is having to make 
> tough financial decisions. I must say I disagree with this one, but it was 
> not my decision to make.
>
> Many of the past and elected Chairs have been gathering and discussing 
> how to replace the Diffraction Methods GRC/GRS going forward. Many 
> great ideas, advice and perspectives have been provided, but that is a 
> select group. I feel it is now time to open up this discussion to the 
> broader community of structural methods developers and practitioners.
> There are some important questions to ask:
>
> * How do we define this community?
>         Yes, many of us do cryoEM too, but is that one methods 
> meeting? or two?
> * Does this community need a new diffraction methods meeting?
>         As in one meeting or zero?
> * Should we merge with an existing meeting?
>         It would make logistics easier, but a typical GRC has 22 hours 
> of in-depth presentations over 5 days.  The GRS is 7 hours over 2 
> days. As Chair, I found that was not nearly enough.
> * Where do you think structural methods are going?
>         I think I know, but I may be biased.
> * Should the name change?
>         From 1976 to 2000, it was "Diffraction Methods in Molecular 
> Biology". The word "diffraction", BTW, comes from the Latin for 
> "shattering of rays", and originally used to describe the iridescence 
> of bird feathers. That's spectroscopy!
> How about:
>  "Structural Methods for the Departing of Rays"
>
> I'm sure there are many more questions, and better suggestions.  I 
> look forward to enlightening discussions!  GRCs have always been about 
> discussion, and I hope to keep that tradition alive in this community.
>
> -James Holton
> MAD Scientist
>
> ######################################################################
> ##
>
> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link:
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC
> .exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1__;!!N3hqHg43uw!seKRCwqf-9U5a5vpm19quTE94sOBoM1H
> zktB2NDBxOp6TFV8LC_s19p5TJcgvxfLfp8BheaUlg1wOfursEBNL8h62_DMa7pXohQ$
>
> This message was issued to members of 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB__;!!N3hqH
> g43uw!seKRCwqf-9U5a5vpm19quTE94sOBoM1HzktB2NDBxOp6TFV8LC_s19p5TJcgvxfL
> fp8BheaUlg1wOfursEBNL8h62_DMKzaZfqw$ , a mailing list hosted by 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk__;!!N3hqHg43uw!s
> eKRCwqf-9U5a5vpm19quTE94sOBoM1HzktB2NDBxOp6TFV8LC_s19p5TJcgvxfLfp8Bhea
> Ulg1wOfursEBNL8h62_DMjkEv6cc$ , terms & conditions are available at 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecuri
> ty/__;!!N3hqHg43uw!seKRCwqf-9U5a5vpm19quTE94sOBoM1HzktB2NDBxOp6TFV8LC_
> s19p5TJcgvxfLfp8BheaUlg1wOfursEBNL8h62_DM_zS9DxA$


########################################################################

To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1__;!!N3hqHg43uw!seKRCwqf-9U5a5vpm19quTE94sOBoM1HzktB2NDBxOp6TFV8LC_s19p5TJcgvxfLfp8BheaUlg1wOfursEBNL8h62_DMa7pXohQ$

This message was issued to members of 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB__;!!N3hqHg43uw!seKRCwqf-9U5a5vpm19quTE94sOBoM1HzktB2NDBxOp6TFV8LC_s19p5TJcgvxfLfp8BheaUlg1wOfursEBNL8h62_DMKzaZfqw$
 , a mailing list hosted by 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk__;!!N3hqHg43uw!seKRCwqf-9U5a5vpm19quTE94sOBoM1HzktB2NDBxOp6TFV8LC_s19p5TJcgvxfLfp8BheaUlg1wOfursEBNL8h62_DMjkEv6cc$
 , terms & conditions are available at 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/__;!!N3hqHg43uw!seKRCwqf-9U5a5vpm19quTE94sOBoM1HzktB2NDBxOp6TFV8LC_s19p5TJcgvxfLfp8BheaUlg1wOfursEBNL8h62_DM_zS9DxA$

########################################################################

To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link:
https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1

This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list 
hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at 
https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/

Reply via email to