Re: [ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-31 Thread Eleanor Dodson
one in their book, i am sure.
eleanor


On 30 Oct 2013, at 16:05, Gerard Bricogne wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 Apologies for such a retro and non-biological question, but would
 anyone have a photograph of an Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera that he/she
 would be willing to share? I collected data on the first two prototypes in
 the early seventies, then on one of the first commercial models, but I
 cannot find any images of this ground-breaking piece of equipement on the
 Web. I found images for the Enraf-Nonius precession camera and the CAD-4
 diffractometer, but not for the A-W rotation camera.
 
 This would be for use as visual material in presentations, and I would
 gratefully acknowledge the source of it. Thank you in advance!
 
 
 With fingers crossed ... .
 
  Gerard.
 
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Re: [ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-31 Thread Gloria Borgstahl
Are you talking about the Fig 3.1 in their book, Laboratory-build
oscillation camera (Arndt, Champness, Phizackerley and Wonacott, 1973)


On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Eleanor Dodson
eleanor.dod...@york.ac.ukwrote:

 one in their book, i am sure.
 eleanor


 On 30 Oct 2013, at 16:05, Gerard Bricogne wrote:

  Dear all,
 
  Apologies for such a retro and non-biological question, but would
  anyone have a photograph of an Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera that he/she
  would be willing to share? I collected data on the first two prototypes
 in
  the early seventies, then on one of the first commercial models, but I
  cannot find any images of this ground-breaking piece of equipement on the
  Web. I found images for the Enraf-Nonius precession camera and the CAD-4
  diffractometer, but not for the A-W rotation camera.
 
  This would be for use as visual material in presentations, and I
 would
  gratefully acknowledge the source of it. Thank you in advance!
 
 
  With fingers crossed ... .
 
   Gerard.
 
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[ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-30 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear all,

 Apologies for such a retro and non-biological question, but would
anyone have a photograph of an Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera that he/she
would be willing to share? I collected data on the first two prototypes in
the early seventies, then on one of the first commercial models, but I
cannot find any images of this ground-breaking piece of equipement on the
Web. I found images for the Enraf-Nonius precession camera and the CAD-4
diffractometer, but not for the A-W rotation camera.

 This would be for use as visual material in presentations, and I would
gratefully acknowledge the source of it. Thank you in advance!


 With fingers crossed ... .

  Gerard.

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Re: [ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-30 Thread Matthew Franklin

Dear Gerard -

Here is one picture, but I'm afraid it's quite small and not good quality:

http://books.google.com/books?id=S9PPHvJ8otMCpg=PA28


I assume the camera is that object with the multiple circles in the left 
center of panel A?



Also, these folks seem to have one in their collection:

http://collectionsonline.nmsi.ac.uk/detail.php?t=objectstype=allf=s=arndt+wonacottrecord=0

No image that I could find online, but perhaps they would share one with 
you?



Hope that helps,
Matt



On 10/30/13 12:05 PM, Gerard Bricogne wrote:

Dear all,

  Apologies for such a retro and non-biological question, but would
anyone have a photograph of an Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera that he/she
would be willing to share? I collected data on the first two prototypes in
the early seventies, then on one of the first commercial models, but I
cannot find any images of this ground-breaking piece of equipement on the
Web. I found images for the Enraf-Nonius precession camera and the CAD-4
diffractometer, but not for the A-W rotation camera.

  This would be for use as visual material in presentations, and I would
gratefully acknowledge the source of it. Thank you in advance!


  With fingers crossed ... .

   Gerard.




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Re: [ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-30 Thread Miller, Mitchell D.
Is the prototype shown Figure 1 from 

U. W. Arndt, J. N. Champness, R. P. Phizackerley and A. J. Wonacott
A single-crystal oscillation camera for large unit cells
J. Appl. Cryst. (1973). 6, 457-463   
http://dx.doi.org/10.1107/S0021889873009210  
http://journals.iucr.org/j/issues/1973/06/00/a10549/a10549.pdf  

what you are looking for?  
Regards,
Mitch

http://journals.iucr.org/services/permissions.html 


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Subject: [ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

Dear all,

 Apologies for such a retro and non-biological question, but would
anyone have a photograph of an Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera that he/she
would be willing to share? I collected data on the first two prototypes in
the early seventies, then on one of the first commercial models, but I
cannot find any images of this ground-breaking piece of equipement on the
Web. I found images for the Enraf-Nonius precession camera and the CAD-4
diffractometer, but not for the A-W rotation camera.

 This would be for use as visual material in presentations, and I would
gratefully acknowledge the source of it. Thank you in advance!


 With fingers crossed ... .

  Gerard.

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Re: [ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-30 Thread Harry Powell
There is, of course, a photo in The Rotation Method in crystallography, by 
Arndt and Wonacott, which currently fetches over $245 on Amazon...

On 30 Oct 2013, at 16:05, Gerard Bricogne wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 Apologies for such a retro and non-biological question, but would
 anyone have a photograph of an Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera that he/she
 would be willing to share? I collected data on the first two prototypes in
 the early seventies, then on one of the first commercial models, but I
 cannot find any images of this ground-breaking piece of equipement on the
 Web. I found images for the Enraf-Nonius precession camera and the CAD-4
 diffractometer, but not for the A-W rotation camera.
 
 This would be for use as visual material in presentations, and I would
 gratefully acknowledge the source of it. Thank you in advance!
 
 
 With fingers crossed ... .
 
  Gerard.
 
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Re: [ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-30 Thread D Bonsor
Bob Sweet has a powerpoint presentation but it took a long time to download the 
file 
(http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=27ved=0CEoQFjAGOBQurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcima.chem.usyd.edu.au%3A8080%2FMMSN%2Fevents%2FRAAW_Mar_2005%2FBob_Sweet_v2.pptei=_jRxUqvjGeqrsASg8YDwBAusg=AFQjCNFXctrZtshdnzaF-zyHmg6ELyu_twbvm=bv.55617003,d.cWccad=rja)

I have copied the camera and placed it here 
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/oceo44w5bngmdgh/Picture1.jpg) for easier access.
I hope it is the camera.


Re: [ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-30 Thread Frances C. Bernstein

A good source for used books is used.addall.com which
searches many used book dealers.  A copy of this book is
listed there for about $60 US and is shipped from the UK.

 Frances

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On Wed, 30 Oct 2013, Harry Powell wrote:


There is, of course, a photo in The Rotation Method in crystallography, by 
Arndt and
Wonacott, which currently fetches over $245 on Amazon...
On 30 Oct 2013, at 16:05, Gerard Bricogne wrote:

  Dear all,

  Apologies for such a retro and non-biological question, but would
  anyone have a photograph of an Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera that he/she
  would be willing to share? I collected data on the first two prototypes in
  the early seventies, then on one of the first commercial models, but I
  cannot find any images of this ground-breaking piece of equipement on the
  Web. I found images for the Enraf-Nonius precession camera and the CAD-4
  diffractometer, but not for the A-W rotation camera.

  This would be for use as visual material in presentations, and I would
  gratefully acknowledge the source of it. Thank you in advance!


  With fingers crossed ... .

   Gerard.

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Re: [ccp4bb] A photograph of the Arndt-Wonacott rotation camera?

2013-10-30 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Daniel,

 Thank you very much! That is the kind of picture I was hoping for.
Thanks to you too, Bob, for your Powerpoint presentation that contains other
interesting pictures of the major instruments that made MX possible.

 Finally, many thanks to the authors of all the other amazingly prompt
replies to my message. I hope everyone will enjoy seeing the picture in
Daniel's dropbox. Memories of the 3-day week in the UK and of Watergate in
the US might come wafting through some people's minds ... .


 With best wishes,
 
  Gerard.

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On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 04:49:01PM +, D Bonsor wrote:
 Bob Sweet has a powerpoint presentation but it took a long time to download 
 the file 
 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=27ved=0CEoQFjAGOBQurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcima.chem.usyd.edu.au%3A8080%2FMMSN%2Fevents%2FRAAW_Mar_2005%2FBob_Sweet_v2.pptei=_jRxUqvjGeqrsASg8YDwBAusg=AFQjCNFXctrZtshdnzaF-zyHmg6ELyu_twbvm=bv.55617003,d.cWccad=rja)
 
 I have copied the camera and placed it here 
 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/oceo44w5bngmdgh/Picture1.jpg) for easier access.
 I hope it is the camera.