Hello Dirk,
Upon reviewing this thread I saw your comment:
> On 11 Sep 2020, at 08:41, Dirk Kostrewa
> wrote:
>
> I'm still convinced since the beginning of Coot, that an implementation of
> hydrogen-bond potentials in the RSR would give a huge improvement and
> probably renders the use of s
Hi Paul,
thanks - I've setup my own key bindings, already ;-)
Cheers,
Dirk.
On 11.09.20 12:34, Paul Emsley wrote:
Maybe because I've never attended a Coot course? And maybe because,
I've even never searched for Coot tutorials because the usage of Coot
was (almost) always very intuitive? I am
Maybe because I've never attended a Coot course? And maybe because,
I've even never searched for Coot tutorials because the usage of Coot was (almost) always very intuitive? I
am open for any new developments
OK "Pro Tip of the Day!" then...
Edit -> Settings -> Install Template Key Bindings
est,
Eike
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From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Georg Zocher
Reply to: Georg Zocher
Date: Wednesday, 9. September 2020 at 22:17
To: "CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK"
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] AW: Going back to Coot 0.8
Dear Herman,
Am
Dear Paul,
I'm using Coot since its first April 2000 version and see a lot of
improvements since then - so, really many thanks for your development!
In version 0.9, I like the much improved interface (I didn't like the
ever growing complex Extra menu), and from a recent practical course,
the
I'm not against the old style of coffee, I just don't know why anyone
would want to drink it now that the new stuff is available. I am not
against choice, it just needs to be clear to me why it is necessary.
Having thought about this a bit, I think that there are two major
differences in the real
L.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] AW: Going back to Coot 0.8
>
> Hi Eike,
>
> one of the points is that, only because you got used to a certain operation
> (over many years after someone showed it to you), does not mean it is
> intuitive. This could be judged
letin board on behalf of Georg
> Zocher Reply to: Georg Zocher
> Date: Wednesday, 9. September 2020 at 22:17
> To: "CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK"
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> 0.8
>
> Dear Herman,
>
> Am 09.09.202
] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] AW: Going back to Coot 0.8
Dear Herman,
Am 09.09.2020 um 17:46 schrieb Schreuder, Herman /DE:
> The old real-space refinement was intuitive and easy to use and did
exactly what the user expected, without having to consult the manual!😊 The
result might not have
Dear Herman,
Am 09.09.2020 um 17:46 schrieb Schreuder, Herman /DE:
The old real-space refinement was intuitive and easy to use and did exactly
what the user expected, without having to consult the manual!😊 The result might
not have been perfect, but was good enough for subsequent Refmac, Buste
Dear Tim,
I really like your example.
Has anyone of the disappointed users asked how to do it properly? Maybe
it is just as easy.
I think it's also up to me to do it properly and put more effort in it.
Often we are restrained in time and improving your toolboox in an
unexpected manner is ha
Dear Georg and others,
if I followed the thread correctly, the coffee story should really go
like this:
for years you have been pushing the button of a machine
showing a cup with a black liquid inside. After ten years, the
manufacturer of the machine tells you:
"Sorry guy, it is not coffee what
: Mittwoch, 9. September 2020 17:22
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Betreff: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] AW: Going back to Coot 0.8
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Dear Paul,
people are complaining that they have issues fitting their model in real space
using coot 0.9.x
Dear Paul,
people are complaining that they have issues fitting their model in real
space using coot 0.9.x. Personally, I very briefly used coot other the
last months but also have problems using RSR properly because I'm used
to do it the way it was over the last 10 years. This might be due to
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] AW: Going back to Coot 0.8
On 08/09/2020 16:25, Georg Zocher wrote:
>
>
> we have the same experience in our lab.
What experience is that? I am still in the dark about you think is now
worse.
> Personally, I did would not like to
On 08/09/2020 16:25, Georg Zocher wrote:
we have the same experience in our lab.
What experience is that? I am still in the dark about you think is now
worse.
Personally, I did would not like to judge here, as so far, I did not
have had enough time to get into the new RSR of coot 0.9.x
board on behalf of Paul
Emsley
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Date: Saturday, 5. September 2020 at 02:05
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Coot 0.8
Dear Eike,
Yes, it helps a little.
Changing weights on swi
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Dear Eike,
Yes, it helps a little.
Changing weights o
oot
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Dear Eike,
Yes, it h
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/DE"
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escribe problem.
Best,
Eike
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Dear Frustrated Coot 0.9 Users,
I'd like to let you know that you I have heard similar reports in the recent
past (including, as you can see, from EJD). I have taken what I believe to be
remedial a
Dear Users -
yes , I had shared my frustrations with Paul, mostly caused I must say
because COOT now worries (excessively I think) about atom clashes and
wouldn't let me drag an ARG or HIS or GLU into the obvious density till I
had deleted any rogue waters..
However there are real gains - Tandem
Dear Frustrated Coot 0.9 Users,
I'd like to let you know that you I have heard similar reports in the recent past (including, as you can
see, from EJD). I have taken what I believe to be remedial action to address the most pressing issue.
I think the situation has arisen because Coot users are
Dear Paul,
Here I fully agree with Eike. With the real space refinement in the new coot
the ligand often goes everywhere, except where it should go. Changing the Xray
weight helps sometimes, but not always. In many cases I do not real-space
refine and leave it to Buster to do the refinement. It
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