[ccp4bb] CCP4 Support 32 bit OSX - request for feedback

2013-07-13 Thread Eugene Krissinel
PPS So far we have received a VERY limited response to this call. Please see a 
nice hint from Bill Scott if you are in doubt whether your Mac is capable of 
running 64-bit applications:

Hi Eugene:

If there are many people who think they need 32-bit support, you might want to 
request they issue the command

  % sysctl hw |grep 64bit

If it comes back with a 1, i.e.,

   hw.cpu64bit_capable: 1

then they can still run the 64-bit binaries even if they are running a 32-bit 
kernel (eg: on 10.6.8).

The very old white iMac and the first-generation white and black macbooks are 
the only ones I am aware.

Bill

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Date: 12 July 2013 14:09:25 GMT+01:00
To: CCP4BB ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.ukmailto:ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk
Subject: Fwd: [ccp4bb] CCP4 Support 32 bit OSX - request for feedback

PS Please consult http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3696 for how to determine your 
CPU type. Many thanks -- Eugene

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From: Eugene Krissinel 
eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.ukmailto:eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk
Date: 12 July 2013 12:47:26 GMT+01:00
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UKmailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] CCP4 Support 32 bit OSX - request for feedback
Reply-To: Eugene Krissinel 
eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.ukmailto:eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk

Dear CCP4 Users,

CCP4 Core Team is in final stages for 6.4.0 Release. Every release and 
subsequent support takes a considerable effort, which scales linearly with the 
number of supported platforms. This makes us to periodically revise the scope 
of support we can offer to community.

Since at least 4 years ago, Apple stopped manufacturing and support of 32-bit 
architectures, both on hardware and software side. This means that further 
support of 32-bit Macs by CCP4 will be completely unjustified in some future, 
and may be uneconomical already today.

Yet, before taking any radical actions, we would like to estimate the number of 
actual 32-bit Mac OSX users of CCP4. I therefore solicit a feedback from 
everybody who:

a) has a 32-bit Mac machine running CCP4 AND
b) uses this machine for CCP4ing routinely  AND
c) has no plans to acquire a 64-bit equivalent in 6 months time.

It would help us greatly to estimate the demand, if all such users send 
content-less e-mails to

mail-to:eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.ukmailto:eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk
Subject:   32-bit Mac:  YES  [system]

where [system] is your Mac OSX release, such as 10.4, 10.5 or 10.6.

PLEASE DO NOT CC THIS TO THE WHOLE CCP4BB BY MERE REPLYING TO THIS E-MAIL!

I appreciate your time and willingness to help.

Many thanks,

Eugene Krissinel.


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Date: 10 July 2013 16:35:44 GMT+01:00
To: hari jayaram hari...@gmail.commailto:hari...@gmail.com
Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UKmailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 package manager not available for 32 bit OSX?

Sadly not, we are dropping support for 32-bit Macs. You can still install 
32-bit CCP4 6.3.0 from dmg.

Sorry -- Eugene

On 10 Jul 2013, at 16:04, hari jayaram wrote:

Hi ,
I am trying to use the CCP4 package manager on my 32 bit OSX 10.6.8 running 
laptop and it complains

/bin/sh: Volume/setup/.pm/Setup.app/Contents/MacOS/Setup: Bad CPU type in 
executable.

Is there a 32 bit package manager available...
Thanks
Hari

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[ccp4bb] CCP4 Support 32 bit OSX - request for feedback

2013-07-12 Thread Eugene Krissinel
Dear CCP4 Users,

CCP4 Core Team is in final stages for 6.4.0 Release. Every release and 
subsequent support takes a considerable effort, which scales linearly with the 
number of supported platforms. This makes us to periodically revise the scope 
of support we can offer to community.

Since at least 4 years ago, Apple stopped manufacturing and support of 32-bit 
architectures, both on hardware and software side. This means that further 
support of 32-bit Macs by CCP4 will be completely unjustified in some future, 
and may be uneconomical already today.

Yet, before taking any radical actions, we would like to estimate the number of 
actual 32-bit Mac OSX users of CCP4. I therefore solicit a feedback from 
everybody who:

a) has a 32-bit Mac machine running CCP4 AND
b) uses this machine for CCP4ing routinely  AND
c) has no plans to acquire a 64-bit equivalent in 6 months time.

It would help us greatly to estimate the demand, if all such users send 
content-less e-mails to

mail-to:eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk
Subject:   32-bit Mac:  YES  [system]

where [system] is your Mac OSX release, such as 10.4, 10.5 or 10.6.

PLEASE DO NOT CC THIS TO THE WHOLE CCP4BB BY MERE REPLYING TO THIS E-MAIL!

I appreciate your time and willingness to help.

Many thanks,

Eugene Krissinel.


Begin forwarded message:

 Date: 10 July 2013 16:35:44 GMT+01:00
 To: hari jayaram hari...@gmail.com
 Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 package manager not available for 32 bit OSX?
 
 Sadly not, we are dropping support for 32-bit Macs. You can still install 
 32-bit CCP4 6.3.0 from dmg.
 
 Sorry -- Eugene
 
 On 10 Jul 2013, at 16:04, hari jayaram wrote:
 
 Hi ,
 I am trying to use the CCP4 package manager on my 32 bit OSX 10.6.8 running 
 laptop and it complains
 
 /bin/sh: Volume/setup/.pm/Setup.app/Contents/MacOS/Setup: Bad CPU type in 
 executable.
 
 Is there a 32 bit package manager available...
 Thanks
 Hari
 
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[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] CCP4 Support 32 bit OSX - request for feedback

2013-07-12 Thread Eugene Krissinel
PS Please consult http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3696 for how to determine your 
CPU type. Many thanks -- Eugene

Begin forwarded message:

From: Eugene Krissinel 
eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.ukmailto:eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk
Date: 12 July 2013 12:47:26 GMT+01:00
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UKmailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] CCP4 Support 32 bit OSX - request for feedback
Reply-To: Eugene Krissinel 
eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.ukmailto:eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk

Dear CCP4 Users,

CCP4 Core Team is in final stages for 6.4.0 Release. Every release and 
subsequent support takes a considerable effort, which scales linearly with the 
number of supported platforms. This makes us to periodically revise the scope 
of support we can offer to community.

Since at least 4 years ago, Apple stopped manufacturing and support of 32-bit 
architectures, both on hardware and software side. This means that further 
support of 32-bit Macs by CCP4 will be completely unjustified in some future, 
and may be uneconomical already today.

Yet, before taking any radical actions, we would like to estimate the number of 
actual 32-bit Mac OSX users of CCP4. I therefore solicit a feedback from 
everybody who:

a) has a 32-bit Mac machine running CCP4 AND
b) uses this machine for CCP4ing routinely  AND
c) has no plans to acquire a 64-bit equivalent in 6 months time.

It would help us greatly to estimate the demand, if all such users send 
content-less e-mails to

mail-to:eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.ukmailto:eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk
Subject:   32-bit Mac:  YES  [system]

where [system] is your Mac OSX release, such as 10.4, 10.5 or 10.6.

PLEASE DO NOT CC THIS TO THE WHOLE CCP4BB BY MERE REPLYING TO THIS E-MAIL!

I appreciate your time and willingness to help.

Many thanks,

Eugene Krissinel.


Begin forwarded message:

Date: 10 July 2013 16:35:44 GMT+01:00
To: hari jayaram hari...@gmail.commailto:hari...@gmail.com
Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UKmailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 package manager not available for 32 bit OSX?

Sadly not, we are dropping support for 32-bit Macs. You can still install 
32-bit CCP4 6.3.0 from dmg.

Sorry -- Eugene

On 10 Jul 2013, at 16:04, hari jayaram wrote:

Hi ,
I am trying to use the CCP4 package manager on my 32 bit OSX 10.6.8 running 
laptop and it complains

/bin/sh: Volume/setup/.pm/Setup.app/Contents/MacOS/Setup: Bad CPU type in 
executable.

Is there a 32 bit package manager available...
Thanks
Hari

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