Re: [ccp4bb] Completeness question

2020-06-03 Thread Robbie Joosten
020 14:18 > To: Robbie Joosten > Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Completeness question > > Dear Robbie, > > On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 08:36:06AM +, Robbie Joosten wrote: > > I've been looking at some recent PDB entries that have much lower >

Re: [ccp4bb] Completeness question

2020-06-03 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Dear Robbie, On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 08:36:06AM +, Robbie Joosten wrote: > I've been looking at some recent PDB entries that have much lower > spherical) completeness than reported in the coordinate file. One > reason for this is that the data were anisotropicly truncated, > another reason is

Re: [ccp4bb] Completeness question

2020-06-02 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Dear all, On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 11:48:41PM +0200, vincent Chaptal wrote: > since I've been contacted off line several times about this, I'm > posting here the protocol to combine maps with 2 mtz files of > original and truncated data. If this is of wider interest (and since some of our tools

Re: [ccp4bb] Completeness question

2020-06-01 Thread vincent Chaptal
Good evening, since I've been contacted off line several times about this, I'm posting here the protocol to combine maps with 2 mtz files of original and truncated data. I went through this procedure as I wanted to include the maps, and this was the tricky part of the procedure in my hands.

Re: [ccp4bb] Completeness question

2020-06-01 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Dear all, On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 03:40:53PM +0100, Eleanor Dodson wrote: > My pennysworth. If you find your maps look better after the > anisotroy correction use it, but it may be helpful to those wo want to mine > your data if you deposit the whole sphere.. Agree (which is what e.g. we provide

Re: [ccp4bb] Completeness question

2020-05-30 Thread vincent Chaptal
Hi, also agreed, but actually doing it proved a lot more tricky than I initially thought. For my last structure, which was very anisotropic, I deposited a mmcif containing 1/ the originial data, 2/the truncated data and 3/ the map. It proved impossible to create this file with the tools at

Re: [ccp4bb] Completeness question

2020-05-30 Thread Ian Tickle
Also agree, see http://staraniso.globalphasing.org/deposition_about.html . Cheers -- Ian On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 15:58, Robbie Joosten wrote: > I fully agree. Unfortunately, not everyone does that so cases like I > described will keep appearing. > > Cheers, > Robbie > > On 30 May 2020 16:40,

Re: [ccp4bb] Completeness question

2020-05-30 Thread Robbie Joosten
I fully agree. Unfortunately, not everyone does that so cases like I described will keep appearing. Cheers,RobbieOn 30 May 2020 16:40, Eleanor Dodson wrote:My pennysworth. If you find your maps look better after the anisotroy correction use it, but it may be helpful to those wo want to mine your

Re: [ccp4bb] Completeness question

2020-05-30 Thread Eleanor Dodson
My pennysworth. If you find your maps look better after the anisotroy correction use it, but it may be helpful to those wo want to mine your data if you deposit the whole sphere.. eleanor On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 09:36, Robbie Joosten wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I've been looking at some recent PDB

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Completeness question

2020-05-30 Thread Edward Berry
>>> Ian Tickle 05/30/20 7:14 AM >>> >>(unless of course the completeness calculations were performed on two different reflection files)? EDS is in fact using a different dataset compared to the coordinates, when I submit the output reflections.cif produced by phenix, when the input I, sigma-I

Re: [ccp4bb] Completeness question

2020-05-30 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Ian, > I don't see that anisotropic truncation has anything to do with the low > spherical completeness as compared with the info in the co-ordinate file. > Yes the spherical completeness after anisotropic truncation will be reduced, > but why would it cause it to become inconsistent with that

Re: [ccp4bb] Completeness question

2020-05-30 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Robbie I don't see that anisotropic truncation has anything to do with the low spherical completeness as compared with the info in the co-ordinate file. Yes the spherical completeness after anisotropic truncation will be reduced, but why would it cause it to become inconsistent with that

[ccp4bb] Completeness question

2020-05-30 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Everyone, I've been looking at some recent PDB entries that have much lower spherical) completeness than reported in the coordinate file. One reason for this is that the data were anisotropicly truncated, another reason is some mess-up with the deposition of the reflection data. There is a