Re: [ccp4bb] Copy NCS chain in coot

2011-03-31 Thread Javier Garcia

Dear Zhang yu,

I also found that same problem recently. I think is a small bug from Coot.
It will only copy NCS if the molecule's name you want to copy is molecule A.
So maybe will work if you rename your built chain as A.

Good luck!

Javier

On 31/03/11 00:16, zhang yu wrote:

Dear all,

I have two fold NCS in ASU.  I could find phase by molecular 
replacement, but I have to build other chains by myself, since the 
model is not complete. During model building in coot, I built one 
chain in one NCS, and I merged this chain into the previous molecule. 
Now it is the chain M'.


 When I tried to directly copy this chain to its NCS mate, It didn't work.

I followed the instruction posted 
beforehttp://www.mail-archive.com/coot@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg01984.html;.


What I did is
1. Change the master chain to chain M Draw-NCS ghost 
control-change to chain M
(The terminal said 'there are no ghosts when I change the master 
chain to chain M)
2. go to Extension-NCS-copy chain-, coot ask to fill the master 
chain ID, and I typed M


Nothing happened.  Could someone tell me what is the correct procedure 
to do it ?


Bye the way, for those chains present in both NCS maps, I modified one 
chain and applied the change to its NCS mate by using the same above 
procedure, and it worked.


Thanks

--
Yu Zhang
HHMI associate
Waksman Institute, Rutgers University
190 Frelinghuysen Rd.
Piscataway, NJ, 08904




Re: [ccp4bb] Copy NCS chain in coot

2011-03-31 Thread zhang yu
Dear Javier,

Thanks for your reply. I am using coot 0.6.1, and I could copy molecules
with names besides A only if chains are already present in both NCS.

For chains which are only present in one NCS , I did find out a way to copy
to the other NCS by using 'Find NCS ligand' , although it is not a ligand.



For example, there are already chain A - chain D in the first NCS, and
chain E-chain H in the second NCS. I build chain 'M' from the scratch in
the first NCS, and I want to copy it to its NCS mate.


1. Change the master chain to chain A
  Draw-NCS ghost control-change to chain A

2. go to Extension-NCS-NCS ligands-,
In upper dialog box, Protein with NCS, Fill the master chain ID to A.
In the lower dialogue box Molecules contain ligands, choose the right
molecule and Fill 'M' and 'residue ranges'.

Coot will give a few positions to fit the chain, just choose the right one.

Yu

2011/3/31 Javier Garcia gar...@ysbl.york.ac.uk

 Dear Zhang yu,

 I also found that same problem recently. I think is a small bug from Coot.
 It will only copy NCS if the molecule's name you want to copy is molecule
 A.
 So maybe will work if you rename your built chain as A.

 Good luck!

 Javier


 On 31/03/11 00:16, zhang yu wrote:

 Dear all,

 I have two fold NCS in ASU.  I could find phase by molecular replacement,
 but I have to build other chains by myself, since the model is not complete.
 During model building in coot, I built one chain in one NCS, and I merged
 this chain into the previous molecule. Now it is the chain M'.

  When I tried to directly copy this chain to its NCS mate, It didn't work.

 I followed the instruction posted before
 http://www.mail-archive.com/coot@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg01984.html;.

 What I did is
 1. Change the master chain to chain M Draw-NCS ghost
 control-change to chain M
 (The terminal said 'there are no ghosts when I change the master chain to
 chain M)
 2. go to Extension-NCS-copy chain-, coot ask to fill the master chain
 ID, and I typed M

 Nothing happened.  Could someone tell me what is the correct procedure to
 do it ?

 Bye the way, for those chains present in both NCS maps, I modified one
 chain and applied the change to its NCS mate by using the same above
 procedure, and it worked.

 Thanks

 --
 Yu Zhang
 HHMI associate
 Waksman Institute, Rutgers University
 190 Frelinghuysen Rd.
 Piscataway, NJ, 08904






-- 
Yu Zhang
HHMI associate
Waksman Institute, Rutgers University
190 Frelinghuysen Rd.
Piscataway, NJ, 08904


[ccp4bb] Copy NCS chain in coot

2011-03-30 Thread zhang yu
Dear all,

I have two fold NCS in ASU.  I could find phase by molecular replacement,
but I have to build other chains by myself, since the model is not complete.
During model building in coot, I built one chain in one NCS, and I merged
this chain into the previous molecule. Now it is the chain M'.

 When I tried to directly copy this chain to its NCS mate, It didn't work.

I followed the instruction posted before
http://www.mail-archive.com/coot@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg01984.html;.

What I did is
1. Change the master chain to chain M Draw-NCS ghost
control-change to chain M
(The terminal said 'there are no ghosts when I change the master chain to
chain M)
2. go to Extension-NCS-copy chain-, coot ask to fill the master chain
ID, and I typed M

Nothing happened.  Could someone tell me what is the correct procedure to do
it ?

Bye the way, for those chains present in both NCS maps, I modified one chain
and applied the change to its NCS mate by using the same above procedure,
and it worked.

Thanks

-- 
Yu Zhang
HHMI associate
Waksman Institute, Rutgers University
190 Frelinghuysen Rd.
Piscataway, NJ, 08904