Re: [ccp4bb] DNA in coot

2012-02-16 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardía
Le 15/02/12 11:36, Tim Gruene a écrit :
 Hello Lisa,
 
 which version of coot do you use? Maybe it is outdated and that function
 not yet properly implemented. I can confirm Bill's comment, and we work
 with coot 0.6.2.
 
 Cheers,
 Tim
 
 On 02/15/2012 09:01 AM, LISA wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am refining a structue  of protein-DNA complex with coot. I add DNA by
 adding ideal DNA/RNA in the other model. But I cannot edit chi angle of
 these nucletide, neither the mutate.  When I press the mutate  and my DNA,
 coot give amino acid not nucletide. Why?
 
 Thanks
 
 Lisa
 
 

Sorry for cross-posting, I thought some people might be interested and
only in the coot list.

Just to make clear my previous message: we have had exactly the same
problem than Lisa reports using the latest version (0.7-pre-3971)
available from Bill's repository of standalone Coot for Mac OSX 10.6. By
default, this version uses Coot libraries (/Library/Coot/...) I managed
to make it behave (in terms of DNA-related work) by forcing it to use
CCP4 6.2.0 libraries and then adding

(set-convert-to-v2-atom-names 0)

to my ~/.coot file.


-- 
Miguel

Architecture et Fonction des Macromolécules Biologiques (UMR7257)
CNRS, Aix-Marseille Université
Case 932, 163 Avenue de Luminy, 13288 Marseille cedex 9, France
Tel: +33(0) 491 82 55 93
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[ccp4bb] DNA in coot

2012-02-15 Thread LISA
Hi all,

I am refining a structue  of protein-DNA complex with coot. I add DNA by
adding ideal DNA/RNA in the other model. But I cannot edit chi angle of
these nucletide, neither the mutate.  When I press the mutate  and my DNA,
coot give amino acid not nucletide. Why?

Thanks

Lisa


Re: [ccp4bb] DNA in coot

2012-02-15 Thread Tim Gruene
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Hello Lisa,

which version of coot do you use? Maybe it is outdated and that function
not yet properly implemented. I can confirm Bill's comment, and we work
with coot 0.6.2.

Cheers,
Tim

On 02/15/2012 09:01 AM, LISA wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am refining a structue  of protein-DNA complex with coot. I add DNA by
 adding ideal DNA/RNA in the other model. But I cannot edit chi angle of
 these nucletide, neither the mutate.  When I press the mutate  and my DNA,
 coot give amino acid not nucletide. Why?
 
 Thanks
 
 Lisa
 

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Re: [ccp4bb] DNA in coot

2012-02-15 Thread Xun Lu
Hi Lisa,

Please go check your PDB file.  Are those bases written out like DT or
THY or Td. Coot recognizes certain format for DNA bases but I forgot
which one coot likes.  I don't have my laptop with me right now. My guess
would be Td.  :)

Best,

Xun


On Wednesday, February 15, 2012, LISA science...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I am refining a structue  of protein-DNA complex with coot. I add DNA by
adding ideal DNA/RNA in the other model. But I cannot edit chi angle of
these nucletide, neither the mutate.  When I press the mutate  and my DNA,
coot give amino acid not nucletide. Why?

 Thanks

 Lisa


-- 
Department of Molecular and Structural Biochemistry
North Carolina State University


Re: [ccp4bb] DNA in coot

2012-02-15 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardia
El 16/02/12 05:06, Xun Lu escribió:
 Hi Lisa,
 
 Please go check your PDB file.  Are those bases written out like DT or
 THY or Td. Coot recognizes certain format for DNA bases but I forgot
 which one coot likes.  I don't have my laptop with me right now. My
 guess would be Td.  :)
 
 Best,
 
 Xun
 
 

Hi,

And that is compounded with the fact that depending on your
installation, Coot may be using its own libraries or the CCP4 ones. And
they may differ, especially if you're using the new dictionnaries for
refmac5. Plus the fact that depending on your preferences Coot converts
atoms to PDB v.2.x so they may not come back as you gave them to it. A
mess...

Paul, at the very least, it would be helpful if like in Lisa's case, an
ideal DNA/RNA is created consistent with whatever libraries Coot is
going to use for real space refining it.


Best regards,

-- Miguel

 On Wednesday, February 15, 2012, LISA science...@gmail.com
 mailto:science...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I am refining a structue  of protein-DNA complex with coot. I add DNA
 by adding ideal DNA/RNA in the other model. But I cannot edit chi
 angle of these nucletide, neither the mutate.  When I press the mutate 
 and my DNA, coot give amino acid not nucletide. Why?

 Thanks

 Lisa

 
 -- 
 Department of Molecular and Structural Biochemistry
 North Carolina State University


-- 
Miguel

Architecture et Fonction des Macromolécules Biologiques (UMR6098)
CNRS, Universités d'Aix-Marseille I  II
Case 932, 163 Avenue de Luminy, 13288 Marseille cedex 9, France
Tel: +33(0) 491 82 55 93
Fax: +33(0) 491 26 67 20
mailto:miguel.ortiz-lombar...@afmb.univ-mrs.fr
http://www.afmb.univ-mrs.fr/Miguel-Ortiz-Lombardia