The present generation of high throughput structural biologists stays on the 
intellectual shoulders 
of the  giants of crystallography from past days (modifying GOOGLE). In the 
military jargon, in the constant wars with the
structures, situation described in this exchanges is called encounter.  To know 
all this - is as to know how to calculate without
computers. Or to have Mentates to navigate in space without computer technology 
which is presently prohibited after attempts 
of computers to take over (citing Dune).  


Dr Felix Frolow   
Professor of Structural Biology and Biotechnology
Department of Molecular Microbiology
and Biotechnology
Tel Aviv University 69978, Israel

Acta Crystallographica F, co-editor

e-mail: mbfro...@post.tau.ac.il
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On Aug 20, 2010, at 19:42 , Clemens Vonrhein wrote:

> Dear Eleanor at al,
> 
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 05:20:05PM +0100, Eleanor Dodson wrote:
>> There is quite a lot of background to these Qs in a variwty of text  
>> books, and something on this website.
>> http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/dist/html/pxmaths/index.html
> 
> Nice page :-)
> 
>> When changing hand you need to consider whether this also involves a  
>> change of spacgroup; eg P32 instead of P31
> 
> It always does involve a change to the enantiomorph. One only ever
> needs to check two solutions:
> 
> * if you started with your dataset in P31 you will have to check
> 
>      (X,Y,Z) P31   and   (-X,-Y,-Z) P32
> 
>    and never: (-X,-Y,-Z) P31
> 
> * if you started with P32 just check
> 
>      (X,Y,Z) P32   and   (-X,-Y,-Z) P31
> 
>    and never: (-X,-Y,-Z) P32
> 
> It helps to process data always in the same enantiomorph spacegroup
> (since the extinction rules are identical): e.g. sticking with P61 and
> P62 at the beginning and never go into P65 and P64 for a start (only
> after phasing or MR points to that spacegroup).
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Clemens
> 
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