[ccp4bb] Is there an alternative to Java to view the (nice) plots in ccp4i ?

2013-03-08 Thread vellieux

Hello,

I think the Subject line tells it all.

Former Linux box, Java was installed within a couple of browsers and I 
could view the (nice and useful) plots within ccp4i.


New Linux box, Java {plugin / extension / whatever} is deactivated to 
start with (this Java plugin seems rather difficult to install, whatever 
I have tried has failed so far) with a message indicating that Java is a 
security risk.


Hence I was wondering if there is an alternative to view these nice 
plots on a Linux box nowadays. Something that would not be seen as a 
security threat and be deactivated.


Thanks in advance,

Fred.

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41 rue Jules Horowitz
F-38027 Grenoble Cedex 01
Tel: +33 438789605
Fax: +33 438785494


Re: [ccp4bb] Is there an alternative to Java to view the (nice) plots in ccp4i ?

2013-03-08 Thread Tim Gruene
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Hello Fred,

if you double-click on a job in ccp4i, the results should be shown by
qtRview, the new log-viewer of ccp4. It shows the graphs, and you do
not need java (not even a web-browser).

Regards,
Tim

On 03/08/2013 01:56 PM, vellieux wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I think the Subject line tells it all.
 
 Former Linux box, Java was installed within a couple of browsers
 and I could view the (nice and useful) plots within ccp4i.
 
 New Linux box, Java {plugin / extension / whatever} is deactivated
 to start with (this Java plugin seems rather difficult to install,
 whatever I have tried has failed so far) with a message indicating
 that Java is a security risk.
 
 Hence I was wondering if there is an alternative to view these
 nice plots on a Linux box nowadays. Something that would not be
 seen as a security threat and be deactivated.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Fred.
 

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Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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Re: [ccp4bb] Is there an alternative to Java to view the (nice) plots in ccp4i ?

2013-03-08 Thread eugene . krissinel
Two months ago, CCP4 deployed a new viewer for annotated result reports (plots 
etc), which does not depend on browsers and java, exactly for reasons that you 
write about. Do you use 6.3.0 with updates, and if yes, does your question mean 
that the new viewer does not work for you? The viewer (QtRView) was released in 
6.3.0-010 already integrated with ccp4i.

Eugene


On 8 Mar 2013, at 12:56, vellieux wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I think the Subject line tells it all.
 
 Former Linux box, Java was installed within a couple of browsers and I could 
 view the (nice and useful) plots within ccp4i.
 
 New Linux box, Java {plugin / extension / whatever} is deactivated to start 
 with (this Java plugin seems rather difficult to install, whatever I have 
 tried has failed so far) with a message indicating that Java is a security 
 risk.
 
 Hence I was wondering if there is an alternative to view these nice plots on 
 a Linux box nowadays. Something that would not be seen as a security threat 
 and be deactivated.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Fred.
 
 -- 
 Fred. Vellieux (B.Sc., Ph.D., hdr)
 ouvrier de la recherche
 IBS / ELMA
 41 rue Jules Horowitz
 F-38027 Grenoble Cedex 01
 Tel: +33 438789605
 Fax: +33 438785494


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Re: [ccp4bb] Is there an alternative to Java to view the (nice) plots in ccp4i ?

2013-03-08 Thread vellieux

Hello,

Indeed there is a new viewer and it usually works.

But I also have pre 6.3.0 results that I need to view and somehow the 
ccp4i qtRviewer does not manage to load the results...


So I was wondering if there was a Java-free alternative, I do have the 
log files.


Fred.

On 08/03/13 14:04, eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk wrote:

Two months ago, CCP4 deployed a new viewer for annotated result reports (plots 
etc), which does not depend on browsers and java, exactly for reasons that you 
write about. Do you use 6.3.0 with updates, and if yes, does your question mean 
that the new viewer does not work for you? The viewer (QtRView) was released in 
6.3.0-010 already integrated with ccp4i.

Eugene


On 8 Mar 2013, at 12:56, vellieux wrote:


Hello,

I think the Subject line tells it all.

Former Linux box, Java was installed within a couple of browsers and I could 
view the (nice and useful) plots within ccp4i.

New Linux box, Java {plugin / extension / whatever} is deactivated to start 
with (this Java plugin seems rather difficult to install, whatever I have tried 
has failed so far) with a message indicating that Java is a security risk.

Hence I was wondering if there is an alternative to view these nice plots on a 
Linux box nowadays. Something that would not be seen as a security threat and 
be deactivated.

Thanks in advance,

Fred.

--
Fred. Vellieux (B.Sc., Ph.D., hdr)
ouvrier de la recherche
IBS / ELMA
41 rue Jules Horowitz
F-38027 Grenoble Cedex 01
Tel: +33 438789605
Fax: +33 438785494





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Fred. Vellieux (B.Sc., Ph.D., hdr)
ouvrier de la recherche
IBS / ELMA
41 rue Jules Horowitz
F-38027 Grenoble Cedex 01
Tel: +33 438789605
Fax: +33 438785494


Re: [ccp4bb] Is there an alternative to Java to view the (nice) plots in ccp4i ?

2013-03-08 Thread Tim Gruene
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how about loggraph, or vi+gnuplot?
Tim

On 03/08/2013 02:12 PM, vellieux wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Indeed there is a new viewer and it usually works.
 
 But I also have pre 6.3.0 results that I need to view and somehow
 the ccp4i qtRviewer does not manage to load the results...
 
 So I was wondering if there was a Java-free alternative, I do have
 the log files.
 
 Fred.
 
 On 08/03/13 14:04, eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk wrote:
 Two months ago, CCP4 deployed a new viewer for annotated result 
 reports (plots etc), which does not depend on browsers and java, 
 exactly for reasons that you write about. Do you use 6.3.0 with 
 updates, and if yes, does your question mean that the new viewer
 does not work for you? The viewer (QtRView) was released in
 6.3.0-010 already integrated with ccp4i.
 
 Eugene
 
 
 On 8 Mar 2013, at 12:56, vellieux wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I think the Subject line tells it all.
 
 Former Linux box, Java was installed within a couple of
 browsers and I could view the (nice and useful) plots within
 ccp4i.
 
 New Linux box, Java {plugin / extension / whatever} is
 deactivated to start with (this Java plugin seems rather
 difficult to install, whatever I have tried has failed so far)
 with a message indicating that Java is a security risk.
 
 Hence I was wondering if there is an alternative to view these
 nice plots on a Linux box nowadays. Something that would not be
 seen as a security threat and be deactivated.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Fred.
 
 -- Fred. Vellieux (B.Sc., Ph.D., hdr) ouvrier de la recherche 
 IBS / ELMA 41 rue Jules Horowitz F-38027 Grenoble Cedex 01 Tel:
 +33 438789605 Fax: +33 438785494
 
 
 

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Dr Tim Gruene
Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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Re: [ccp4bb] Is there an alternative to Java to view the (nice) plots in ccp4i ?

2013-03-08 Thread eugene . krissinel
 Indeed there is a new viewer and it usually works.

it would be nice to have specific feedback where it does not, against previous, 
browser-based, system 

 But I also have pre 6.3.0 results that I need to view and somehow the ccp4i 
 qtRviewer does not manage to load the results...

I would think that they should be viewable with QtRView as long as you use 
6.3.0 ... we have this tested, but certainly something may have been 
overlooked. This assumes, of course, that your pre-6.3.0 projects are now in 
6.3.0

 So I was wondering if there was a Java-free alternative, I do have the log 
 files.

Like using old Linuxes to work with old projects? :) If you can give a specific 
example where QtRView fails on log files in projects imported into 6.3.0 from 
pre-6.3.0 projects, we can have a look into that.

Eugene


 
 Fred.
 
 On 08/03/13 14:04, eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk wrote:
 Two months ago, CCP4 deployed a new viewer for annotated result reports 
 (plots etc), which does not depend on browsers and java, exactly for reasons 
 that you write about. Do you use 6.3.0 with updates, and if yes, does your 
 question mean that the new viewer does not work for you? The viewer 
 (QtRView) was released in 6.3.0-010 already integrated with ccp4i.
 
 Eugene
 
 
 On 8 Mar 2013, at 12:56, vellieux wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I think the Subject line tells it all.
 
 Former Linux box, Java was installed within a couple of browsers and I 
 could view the (nice and useful) plots within ccp4i.
 
 New Linux box, Java {plugin / extension / whatever} is deactivated to start 
 with (this Java plugin seems rather difficult to install, whatever I have 
 tried has failed so far) with a message indicating that Java is a security 
 risk.
 
 Hence I was wondering if there is an alternative to view these nice plots 
 on a Linux box nowadays. Something that would not be seen as a security 
 threat and be deactivated.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Fred.
 
 -- 
 Fred. Vellieux (B.Sc., Ph.D., hdr)
 ouvrier de la recherche
 IBS / ELMA
 41 rue Jules Horowitz
 F-38027 Grenoble Cedex 01
 Tel: +33 438789605
 Fax: +33 438785494
 
 
 
 -- 
 Fred. Vellieux (B.Sc., Ph.D., hdr)
 ouvrier de la recherche
 IBS / ELMA
 41 rue Jules Horowitz
 F-38027 Grenoble Cedex 01
 Tel: +33 438789605
 Fax: +33 438785494
 


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