Re: [ccp4bb] OT: Has anyone experienced problems with Apple laptop battery expansion?
To add to the general list (and future class action). I have just had the battery expansion on one for the second time. Added to the number of them I have bricked by letting the charge run down to low by unplugging them. Interestingly apple agreed to replace the bricked batteries free of charge, for their US customers. But, us foreigners had to pay for the pleasure... Charles On 18 Nov 2012, at 17:30, Bosch, Juergen wrote: Bill I think that's crap. I had issues on a 2005 MacBook Pro with inflating battery and it was replaced (after about 6 months). There were troubles with those batteries and impurities but mine still had apple care at that time and the batteries were exchangeable. I have not heard of the build in batteries to have problems but yours sure did. Send Tim Cook an email with the picture. This should not have happened and also keeping the power cord on leading to this problem should not have happened. For what did they introduce the trickling charging ? If you can't leave the coord plugged in how many nice wooden US households gave caught fire due to Apple products ? Jürgen .. Jürgen Bosch Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Department of Biochemistry Molecular Biology Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute 615 North Wolfe Street, W8708 Baltimore, MD 21205 Phone: +1-410-614-4742 Lab: +1-410-614-4894 Fax: +1-410-955-3655 http://lupo.jhsph.edu On Nov 17, 2012, at 16:28, William G. Scott wgsc...@ucsc.edu wrote: Hi folks: I'm trying to get a sense for how frequently this sort of thing occurs: CIMG4451.jpeg That was a macbook air that served me well for four years, but then self-destructed. (I took it to the Apple store. They generously offered to repair it for $800 or to sell me a new one, and suggested this was normal if you leave the power cord attached after the battery charges, even while giving a lecture or seminar.) It strikes me as a bit dangerous. --Bill Scott William G. Scott Professor Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA 228 Sinsheimer Laboratories University of California at Santa Cruz Santa Cruz, California 95064 USA -- Scanned by iCritical.
Re: [ccp4bb] OT: Has anyone experienced problems with Apple laptop battery expansion?
I have never understood why Macs are so popular, although in this part of the world they are appreciably more expensive. My vintage 2005 Dell laptop does not have the sex appeal of a MacBook, but it has survived a fire (not its fault) as well as being under water (to put out the fire) and then bounced down a stone staircase (my wife fortunately caught it on the way down). Despite all my efforts to destroy it, it never needed servicing or replacement parts and still works perfectly! George (PS I should add that I have no connection with or shares in Dell) On 11/20/2012 10:25 AM, Charles Ballard wrote: To add to the general list (and future class action). I have just had the battery expansion on one for the second time. Added to the number of them I have bricked by letting the charge run down to low by unplugging them. Interestingly apple agreed to replace the bricked batteries free of charge, for their US customers. But, us foreigners had to pay for the pleasure... Charles On 18 Nov 2012, at 17:30, Bosch, Juergen wrote: Bill I think that's crap. I had issues on a 2005 MacBook Pro with inflating battery and it was replaced (after about 6 months). There were troubles with those batteries and impurities but mine still had apple care at that time and the batteries were exchangeable. I have not heard of the build in batteries to have problems but yours sure did. Send Tim Cook an email with the picture. This should not have happened and also keeping the power cord on leading to this problem should not have happened. For what did they introduce the trickling charging ? If you can't leave the coord plugged in how many nice wooden US households gave caught fire due to Apple products ? Jürgen .. Jürgen Bosch Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Department of Biochemistry Molecular Biology Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute 615 North Wolfe Street, W8708 Baltimore, MD 21205 Phone: +1-410-614-4742 Lab: +1-410-614-4894 Fax: +1-410-955-3655 http://lupo.jhsph.edu On Nov 17, 2012, at 16:28, William G. Scott wgsc...@ucsc.edu wrote: Hi folks: I'm trying to get a sense for how frequently this sort of thing occurs: CIMG4451.jpeg That was a macbook air that served me well for four years, but then self-destructed. (I took it to the Apple store. They generously offered to repair it for $800 or to sell me a new one, and suggested this was normal if you leave the power cord attached after the battery charges, even while giving a lecture or seminar.) It strikes me as a bit dangerous. --Bill Scott William G. Scott Professor Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA 228 Sinsheimer Laboratories University of California at Santa Cruz Santa Cruz, California 95064 USA -- Prof. George M. Sheldrick FRS Dept. Structural Chemistry, University of Goettingen, Tammannstr. 4, D37077 Goettingen, Germany Tel. +49-551-39-3021 or -3068 Fax. +49-551-39-22582
Re: [ccp4bb] OT: Has anyone experienced problems with Apple laptop battery expansion?
Presumably then it was running Linux? On Nov 20, 2012, at 7:39 AM, George M. Sheldrick gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: I have never understood why Macs are so popular, although in this part of the world they are appreciably more expensive. My vintage 2005 Dell laptop does not have the sex appeal of a MacBook, but it has survived a fire (not its fault) as well as being under water (to put out the fire) and then bounced down a stone staircase (my wife fortunately caught it on the way down). Despite all my efforts to destroy it, it never needed servicing or replacement parts and still works perfectly! George (PS I should add that I have no connection with or shares in Dell) On 11/20/2012 10:25 AM, Charles Ballard wrote: To add to the general list (and future class action). I have just had the battery expansion on one for the second time. Added to the number of them I have bricked by letting the charge run down to low by unplugging them. Interestingly apple agreed to replace the bricked batteries free of charge, for their US customers. But, us foreigners had to pay for the pleasure... Charles On 18 Nov 2012, at 17:30, Bosch, Juergen wrote: Bill I think that's crap. I had issues on a 2005 MacBook Pro with inflating battery and it was replaced (after about 6 months). There were troubles with those batteries and impurities but mine still had apple care at that time and the batteries were exchangeable. I have not heard of the build in batteries to have problems but yours sure did. Send Tim Cook an email with the picture. This should not have happened and also keeping the power cord on leading to this problem should not have happened. For what did they introduce the trickling charging ? If you can't leave the coord plugged in how many nice wooden US households gave caught fire due to Apple products ? Jürgen .. Jürgen Bosch Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Department of Biochemistry Molecular Biology Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute 615 North Wolfe Street, W8708 Baltimore, MD 21205 Phone: +1-410-614-4742 Lab: +1-410-614-4894 Fax: +1-410-955-3655 http://lupo.jhsph.edu On Nov 17, 2012, at 16:28, William G. Scott wgsc...@ucsc.edu wrote: Hi folks: I'm trying to get a sense for how frequently this sort of thing occurs: CIMG4451.jpeg That was a macbook air that served me well for four years, but then self-destructed. (I took it to the Apple store. They generously offered to repair it for $800 or to sell me a new one, and suggested this was normal if you leave the power cord attached after the battery charges, even while giving a lecture or seminar.) It strikes me as a bit dangerous. --Bill Scott William G. Scott Professor Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA 228 Sinsheimer Laboratories University of California at Santa Cruz Santa Cruz, California 95064 USA -- Prof. George M. Sheldrick FRS Dept. Structural Chemistry, University of Goettingen, Tammannstr. 4, D37077 Goettingen, Germany Tel. +49-551-39-3021 or -3068 Fax. +49-551-39-22582
Re: [ccp4bb] OT: Has anyone experienced problems with Apple laptop battery expansion?
It is dual bootable Linux/Windows George On 11/20/2012 05:56 PM, William Scott wrote: Presumably then it was running Linux? On Nov 20, 2012, at 7:39 AM, George M. Sheldrick gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: I have never understood why Macs are so popular, although in this part of the world they are appreciably more expensive. My vintage 2005 Dell laptop does not have the sex appeal of a MacBook, but it has survived a fire (not its fault) as well as being under water (to put out the fire) and then bounced down a stone staircase (my wife fortunately caught it on the way down). Despite all my efforts to destroy it, it never needed servicing or replacement parts and still works perfectly! George (PS I should add that I have no connection with or shares in Dell) -- Prof. George M. Sheldrick FRS Dept. Structural Chemistry, University of Goettingen, Tammannstr. 4, D37077 Goettingen, Germany Tel. +49-551-39-3021 or -3068 Fax. +49-551-39-22582
Re: [ccp4bb] OT: Has anyone experienced problems with Apple laptop battery expansion?
It probably had a functional Firewall under Linux that's why it survived :-) Jürgen P.S. note to myself, don't ever give George my laptop, as it might be mistreated - just for test purposes :-) On Nov 20, 2012, at 12:57 PM, George M. Sheldrick wrote: It is dual bootable Linux/Windows George On 11/20/2012 05:56 PM, William Scott wrote: Presumably then it was running Linux? On Nov 20, 2012, at 7:39 AM, George M. Sheldrick gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.demailto:gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: I have never understood why Macs are so popular, although in this part of the world they are appreciably more expensive. My vintage 2005 Dell laptop does not have the sex appeal of a MacBook, but it has survived a fire (not its fault) as well as being under water (to put out the fire) and then bounced down a stone staircase (my wife fortunately caught it on the way down). Despite all my efforts to destroy it, it never needed servicing or replacement parts and still works perfectly! George (PS I should add that I have no connection with or shares in Dell) -- Prof. George M. Sheldrick FRS Dept. Structural Chemistry, University of Goettingen, Tammannstr. 4, D37077 Goettingen, Germany Tel. +49-551-39-3021 or -3068 Fax. +49-551-39-22582 .. Jürgen Bosch Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg School of Public Health Department of Biochemistry Molecular Biology Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute 615 North Wolfe Street, W8708 Baltimore, MD 21205 Office: +1-410-614-4742 Lab: +1-410-614-4894 Fax: +1-410-955-2926 http://lupo.jhsph.edu
Re: [ccp4bb] OT: Has anyone experienced problems with Apple laptop battery expansion?
To add another datapoint, a couple of weeks ago, I saw a friend's MacBook Pro (probably 2007) had a battery case open up just like that. My 17-inch MacBook Pro (2008) case is also bent in a million different ways, and I have already had to change the bottom case once (for $130, and at no labor cost, since they were also changing the fried-up video card which was recalled), as the laptop would not even close. The top case is also coming apart, but replacing that is not an option apparently, since it practically comes with the display. I change my battery frequently enough that, I guess my battery does not go up in flames. I have always thought that the unibody design was Apple addressing these issues, but seeing what happened to those MacBook Airs just depresses me. Engin On 11/19/2012 10:37 AM, Charles Pemble wrote: Hey Bill, I have had this happen on two separate occasions with old macbook body style. The first (2008) resulted in Apple replacing the battery for free without any hassle. The second time (2010) was significantly worse (see attached pic) – Apple said, That's normal wear and tear. After much debate about this being normal, the guy at the Genius bar suggested my only option was to purchase a new one. Cheers, Charlie _ Charles W. Pemble IV, Ph.D. Facility Manager, Duke Medical School Crystallography Research Scientist, DHVI Duke University 308 Research Drive LSRC, A06 Durham, NC 27708 charles.pem...@duke.edu mailto:charles.pem...@duke.edu On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 7:28 PM, William G. Scott wgsc...@ucsc.edu mailto:wgsc...@ucsc.edu wrote: Hi folks: I'm trying to get a sense for how frequently this sort of thing occurs: That was a macbook air that served me well for four years, but then self-destructed. (I took it to the Apple store. They generously offered to repair it for $800 or to sell me a new one, and suggested this was normal if you leave the power cord attached after the battery charges, even while giving a lecture or seminar.) It strikes me as a bit dangerous. --Bill Scott William G. Scott Professor Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA 228 Sinsheimer Laboratories University of California at Santa Cruz Santa Cruz, California 95064 USA --
Re: [ccp4bb] OT: Has anyone experienced problems with Apple laptop battery expansion?
Dear Bill, Yes, the same happened a year ago or so to me, with a 17 inch MacBookPro bought in 2008. The Apple store in Glasgow replaced it for free within roughly one week, and the laptop works well. I agree that this is really dangerous, I wonder if it could also cause the leak of material from inside (mine exposed some really ugly brown stuff). Laura On Nov 18, 2012, at 12:28 AM, William G. Scott wrote: Hi folks: I'm trying to get a sense for how frequently this sort of thing occurs: CIMG4451.jpeg That was a macbook air that served me well for four years, but then self-destructed. (I took it to the Apple store. They generously offered to repair it for $800 or to sell me a new one, and suggested this was normal if you leave the power cord attached after the battery charges, even while giving a lecture or seminar.) It strikes me as a bit dangerous. --Bill Scott William G. Scott Professor Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA 228 Sinsheimer Laboratories University of California at Santa Cruz Santa Cruz, California 95064 USA Dr Laura Spagnolo Institute of Structural Molecular Biology University of Edinburgh Room 506, Darwin Building King's Buildings Campus Edinburgh EH9 3JR United Kingdom T: +44 (0)131 650 7066 F: +44 (0)131 650 8650 http://www.biology.ed.ac.uk/research/institutes/structure/homepage.php?id=lspagnolo laura.spagn...@ed.ac.uk -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
Re: [ccp4bb] OT: Has anyone experienced problems with Apple laptop battery expansion?
Bill I think that's crap. I had issues on a 2005 MacBook Pro with inflating battery and it was replaced (after about 6 months). There were troubles with those batteries and impurities but mine still had apple care at that time and the batteries were exchangeable. I have not heard of the build in batteries to have problems but yours sure did. Send Tim Cook an email with the picture. This should not have happened and also keeping the power cord on leading to this problem should not have happened. For what did they introduce the trickling charging ? If you can't leave the coord plugged in how many nice wooden US households gave caught fire due to Apple products ? Jürgen .. Jürgen Bosch Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Department of Biochemistry Molecular Biology Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute 615 North Wolfe Street, W8708 Baltimore, MD 21205 Phone: +1-410-614-4742 Lab: +1-410-614-4894 Fax: +1-410-955-3655 http://lupo.jhsph.edu On Nov 17, 2012, at 16:28, William G. Scott wgsc...@ucsc.edu wrote: Hi folks: I'm trying to get a sense for how frequently this sort of thing occurs: CIMG4451.jpeg That was a macbook air that served me well for four years, but then self-destructed. (I took it to the Apple store. They generously offered to repair it for $800 or to sell me a new one, and suggested this was normal if you leave the power cord attached after the battery charges, even while giving a lecture or seminar.) It strikes me as a bit dangerous. --Bill Scott William G. Scott Professor Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA 228 Sinsheimer Laboratories University of California at Santa Cruz Santa Cruz, California 95064 USA
[ccp4bb] OT: Has anyone experienced problems with Apple laptop battery expansion?
Hi folks:I'm trying to get a sense for how frequently this sort of thing occurs:That was a macbook air that served me well for four years, but then self-destructed. (I took it to the Apple store. They generously offered to repair it for $800 or to sell me a new one, and suggested this was normal if you leave the power cord attached after the battery charges, even while giving a lecture or seminar.) It strikes me as a bit dangerous.--Bill ScottWilliam G. ScottProfessorDepartment of Chemistry and Biochemistryand The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA228 Sinsheimer LaboratoriesUniversity of California at Santa CruzSanta Cruz, California 95064USA
