Re: [ccp4bb] Pilatus 300K CBF to Oxford Diffraction format convert

2013-02-07 Thread Graeme Winter
Hi Folks,

To follow up Harry's comments. We have a Pilatus 300K on I19 here at
Diamond which is used from time to time for small molecule work.
Processing with XDS has proved to be successful (I can send an example
XDS.INP but you will need to make sure you have a good knowledge of
the experimental geometry.)

If these had been recorded properly with the full CBF format you would
be able to process them with xia2 with XDS, which is what we have been
using here. However Harry's report suggests that this is unlikely to
work. XDS with a correctly crafted input file should work fine.

BTW, in addition to Tim's comments above, I also set DELPHI=30
(relatively arbitrarily) to give enough reflections that the profile
averaging could be useful. We have not tested this substantially
however.

Best wishes,

Graeme



On 6 February 2013 11:53, Harry Powell ha...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote:
 Hi Tim

 I've looked at these images and they differ from the normal 6M images
 (miniCBF) in that they are a stab at writing fullCBF, i.e. with imgCIF
 style data content - unfortunately, there are a few syntax errors which need
 fixing before programs that use the header information (like Crysalis Pro,
 inter alia;-)) can do much useful with them.

 XDS (and any other programs that ignore header information) should be able
 to process these provided the correct beamline values are supplied.

 On 6 Feb 2013, at Wed6 Feb 11:19, Tim Gruene wrote:

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 Dear Jose,

 it is odd the software should read 6M but not 0.3M Pilatus files - the
 format is probably the same, only the dimensions would differ - at
 least that's my guess.
 While you are waiting you might start processing your data with XDS,
 which is well suited also for small molecules crystals. If your cell
 is small, I recommend turning of refinement during the integration
 step (REFINE(INTEGRATE)=!) and only refine all parameters during the
 CORRECT step.
 You need to make sure the spots are correctly predicted on the
 FRAME.cbf, i.e. the cell from indexing is close enough to the correct one.

 Best wishes,
 Tim

 On 02/06/2013 11:35 AM, Jose Trincao wrote:

 Dear all, sorry for the semi-off-topic but I'm trying to help
 convert some diffraction images and this seemed like a good place
 to ask. We are trying to process some images collected on a Pilatus
 300K with the Crysalis Pro software (small molecule) but it seems
 to only be able to read Pilatus 6M frames. Is there an easy way to
 convert the 300K dbf files to something readable by Crysalis?
 (Oxford Diffraction, marCCD, Rigaku or Bruker AXS-SAXI). Thanks!

 Jose


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[ccp4bb] Pilatus 300K CBF to Oxford Diffraction format convert

2013-02-06 Thread Jose Trincao
Dear all,
sorry for the semi-off-topic but I'm trying to help convert some diffraction 
images and this seemed like a good place to ask. We are trying to process some 
images collected on a Pilatus 300K with the Crysalis Pro software (small 
molecule) but it seems to only be able to read Pilatus 6M frames. Is there an 
easy way to convert the 300K dbf files to something readable by Crysalis? 
(Oxford Diffraction, marCCD, Rigaku or Bruker AXS-SAXI).
Thanks!

Jose


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Re: [ccp4bb] Pilatus 300K CBF to Oxford Diffraction format convert

2013-02-06 Thread Tim Gruene
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Dear Jose,

it is odd the software should read 6M but not 0.3M Pilatus files - the
format is probably the same, only the dimensions would differ - at
least that's my guess.
While you are waiting you might start processing your data with XDS,
which is well suited also for small molecules crystals. If your cell
is small, I recommend turning of refinement during the integration
step (REFINE(INTEGRATE)=!) and only refine all parameters during the
CORRECT step.
You need to make sure the spots are correctly predicted on the
FRAME.cbf, i.e. the cell from indexing is close enough to the correct one.

Best wishes,
Tim

On 02/06/2013 11:35 AM, Jose Trincao wrote:
 Dear all, sorry for the semi-off-topic but I'm trying to help
 convert some diffraction images and this seemed like a good place
 to ask. We are trying to process some images collected on a Pilatus
 300K with the Crysalis Pro software (small molecule) but it seems
 to only be able to read Pilatus 6M frames. Is there an easy way to
 convert the 300K dbf files to something readable by Crysalis?
 (Oxford Diffraction, marCCD, Rigaku or Bruker AXS-SAXI). Thanks!
 
 Jose
 
 
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Re: [ccp4bb] Pilatus 300K CBF to Oxford Diffraction format convert

2013-02-06 Thread Harry Powell

Hi Tim

I've looked at these images and they differ from the normal 6M images  
(miniCBF) in that they are a stab at writing fullCBF, i.e. with  
imgCIF style data content - unfortunately, there are a few syntax  
errors which need fixing before programs that use the header  
information (like Crysalis Pro, inter alia;-)) can do much useful  
with them.


XDS (and any other programs that ignore header information) should be  
able to process these provided the correct beamline values are supplied.


On 6 Feb 2013, at Wed6 Feb 11:19, Tim Gruene wrote:


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Dear Jose,

it is odd the software should read 6M but not 0.3M Pilatus files - the
format is probably the same, only the dimensions would differ - at
least that's my guess.
While you are waiting you might start processing your data with XDS,
which is well suited also for small molecules crystals. If your cell
is small, I recommend turning of refinement during the integration
step (REFINE(INTEGRATE)=!) and only refine all parameters during the
CORRECT step.
You need to make sure the spots are correctly predicted on the
FRAME.cbf, i.e. the cell from indexing is close enough to the  
correct one.


Best wishes,
Tim

On 02/06/2013 11:35 AM, Jose Trincao wrote:

Dear all, sorry for the semi-off-topic but I'm trying to help
convert some diffraction images and this seemed like a good place
to ask. We are trying to process some images collected on a Pilatus
300K with the Crysalis Pro software (small molecule) but it seems
to only be able to read Pilatus 6M frames. Is there an easy way to
convert the 300K dbf files to something readable by Crysalis?
(Oxford Diffraction, marCCD, Rigaku or Bruker AXS-SAXI). Thanks!

Jose


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