Re: [ccp4bb] Question about glove boxes for protein crystallization

2007-02-24 Thread twood
Just a suggestion.  To avoid the glass cover slips,
one can use the hanging drop trays from Qiagen (formerly Nextal).  No risk
of tearing gloves and no grease to mess with either.  Crystals can be set
up in any glovebox and then the tray will hold the seal using an 0-ring. 
Nice to be able tomanipulate the crystals in case you have more than one
per drop that you want to freeze.

Tim Wood


 > Dear Mathews,
>
> we were successful in crystallizing two ferredoxins under strict anaerobic
> conditions using the much cheaper solution of a glove bag and filling it
> with argon. I guess that in both cases (box and bag) the thickness of the
> gloves is a problem especially if you are dealing with cover slides. The
> glove bag occupies also much less space however its major problem was the
> very bad visualization of the inner space and finally we added a plexiglas
> window on the bag. Needless to say how essential is not to forget anything
> outside the bag/box before starting the crystallization set up.
> Finally you can also consider the possibility to use a crystallization
> robot. In some of them it is possible to create anaerobic conditions using
> argon.
>
> good luck
> Nikos
>
>
> *
> Nikos Pinotsis, PhD
> EMBL-Hamburg, c/o DESY
> Notkestr. 85, Geb. 25A
> 22603 Hamburg, Germany
>
> Phone  :   +49 40 89902144
> Fax:   +49 40 89902149
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mathews, Irimpan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, 23 February, 2007 3:03 AM
> Subject: [ccp4bb] Question about glove boxes for protein crystallization
>
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> Sorry for the non CCP4 question. We are planning to purchase a small glove
> box to setup crystallization trays under anaerobic conditions. If you have
> used glove boxes for crystallization, would you please give me some idea?
>
> We are thinking of getting the 815 series from Plas-labs (link below).
>
> http://www.plas-labs.com/
>
> Thank you very much,
> Mathews
>
> Ps: If others are interested, I will post a summary.
>


Re: [ccp4bb] Question about glove boxes for protein crystallization

2007-02-23 Thread Nikos Pinotsis

Dear Mathews,

we were successful in crystallizing two ferredoxins under strict anaerobic 
conditions using the much cheaper solution of a glove bag and filling it 
with argon. I guess that in both cases (box and bag) the thickness of the 
gloves is a problem especially if you are dealing with cover slides. The 
glove bag occupies also much less space however its major problem was the 
very bad visualization of the inner space and finally we added a plexiglas 
window on the bag. Needless to say how essential is not to forget anything 
outside the bag/box before starting the crystallization set up.
Finally you can also consider the possibility to use a crystallization 
robot. In some of them it is possible to create anaerobic conditions using 
argon.


good luck
Nikos


*
Nikos Pinotsis, PhD
EMBL-Hamburg, c/o DESY
Notkestr. 85, Geb. 25A
22603 Hamburg, Germany

Phone  :   +49 40 89902144
Fax:   +49 40 89902149
e-mail :   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*

- Original Message - 
From: "Mathews, Irimpan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, 23 February, 2007 3:03 AM
Subject: [ccp4bb] Question about glove boxes for protein crystallization


Dear Friends,

Sorry for the non CCP4 question. We are planning to purchase a small glove 
box to setup crystallization trays under anaerobic conditions. If you have 
used glove boxes for crystallization, would you please give me some idea?


We are thinking of getting the 815 series from Plas-labs (link below).

http://www.plas-labs.com/

Thank you very much,
Mathews

Ps: If others are interested, I will post a summary.


Re: [ccp4bb] Question about glove boxes for protein crystallization

2007-02-23 Thread Roberto Steiner

Hi Mathews,

An anaerobic chamber from Belle Technology (http://www.belle- 
technology.com/) served me well in the past.
Belle's glove boxes are made of acrylic material. That offers  
relatively low-cost and all-round visibility.


Cheers,
Roberto

On 23 Feb 2007, at 02:03, Mathews, Irimpan wrote:


Dear Friends,

Sorry for the non CCP4 question. We are planning to purchase a  
small glove box to setup crystallization trays under anaerobic  
conditions. If you have used glove boxes for crystallization, would  
you please give me some idea?


We are thinking of getting the 815 series from Plas-labs (link below).

http://www.plas-labs.com/

Thank you very much,
Mathews

Ps: If others are interested, I will post a summary.


---
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Randall Division of Cell and Molecular Biophysics
New Hunt's House
King's College London
Guy's Campus
London, SE1 1UL
Phone +44 (0)20-7848-8216
Fax   +44 (0)20-7848-6435
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[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Question about glove boxes for protein crystallization

2007-02-23 Thread Alexander . Pautsch
Dear Patrick,

as a (probably more general) follow up-question:

Does anyone have experience with batch crystallization under oil for membrane
proteins (in detergent) ?

alex

> Dr. Alexander Pautsch
> Protein Crystallography /Structural Research 
> Boehringer Ingelheim Pharma GmbH & Co. KG Deutschland 
> Birkendorferstrasse 65
> 88400 BIBERACH, Germany 
> tel. +49 - (0)7351 - 54 4683 
> fax. +49 - (0)7351 - 83 4683
> email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>


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Hi Mathews

One of our customers, Bret Dillard at the University of Georgia, has
had great success with one of our robots in a Bactron X anaerobic
chamber.

In this case, Bret mainly used the microbatch-under-oil method, which
works very well for anaerobic work:  (1) the oil protects the sample
and reduces exposure to oxygen, (2) the amount of work is far less
because you can keep several degassed screens in the chamber to use
many times with different protein samples.  With vapor diffusion you
will have to degass the solutions every for every few samples (if not
every sample).

Bret won our competition for this work last year.  You can find his report at
http://www.douglas.co.uk/news.htm, plus more info below

Patrick



_

Douglas Instruments has announced the winner of the second round of
its competition for the best new crystallization technique.
Congratulations to Bret Dillard from the University of Georgia, for
his winning entry, "Automatic Protein Crystallization in an Anaerobic
Environment."

Bret placed an Oryx1-6 robot in a Bactron X anaerobic chamber, and
used mainly microbatch-under-oil crystallization to crystallize four
proteins that are not stable in an environment with oxygen.  He found
that microbatch avoided the need for frequent degassing of solutions
which reduced the work-load enormously.  The oil also provided extra
protection from oxidation.

One of the proteins crystallized is rubrerythrin from the
hyperthermophilic archaeon, Pyrococcus furiosus.  The native protein
contains iron, but is unstable in oxygen.  A previously-reported
structure was determined in the presence of oxygen, but the iron had
been replaced by zinc.  Using the anaerobic system, Bret has now
obtained the native form containing iron.

_



On 2/23/07, Mathews, Irimpan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> Sorry for the non CCP4 question. We are planning to purchase a small glove
> box to setup crystallization trays under anaerobic conditions. If you have
> used glove boxes for crystallization, would you please give me some idea?
>
> We are thinking of getting the 815 series from Plas-labs (link below).
>
> http://www.plas-labs.com/
>
> Thank you very much,
> Mathews
>
> Ps: If others are interested, I will post a summary.
>


Re: [ccp4bb] Question about glove boxes for protein crystallization

2007-02-23 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart

Hi Mathews

One of our customers, Bret Dillard at the University of Georgia, has
had great success with one of our robots in a Bactron X anaerobic
chamber.

In this case, Bret mainly used the microbatch-under-oil method, which
works very well for anaerobic work:  (1) the oil protects the sample
and reduces exposure to oxygen, (2) the amount of work is far less
because you can keep several degassed screens in the chamber to use
many times with different protein samples.  With vapor diffusion you
will have to degass the solutions every for every few samples (if not
every sample).

Bret won our competition for this work last year.  You can find his report at
http://www.douglas.co.uk/news.htm, plus more info below

Patrick



_

Douglas Instruments has announced the winner of the second round of
its competition for the best new crystallization technique.
Congratulations to Bret Dillard from the University of Georgia, for
his winning entry, "Automatic Protein Crystallization in an Anaerobic
Environment."

Bret placed an Oryx1-6 robot in a Bactron X anaerobic chamber, and
used mainly microbatch-under-oil crystallization to crystallize four
proteins that are not stable in an environment with oxygen.  He found
that microbatch avoided the need for frequent degassing of solutions
which reduced the work-load enormously.  The oil also provided extra
protection from oxidation.

One of the proteins crystallized is rubrerythrin from the
hyperthermophilic archaeon, Pyrococcus furiosus.  The native protein
contains iron, but is unstable in oxygen.  A previously-reported
structure was determined in the presence of oxygen, but the iron had
been replaced by zinc.  Using the anaerobic system, Bret has now
obtained the native form containing iron.

_



On 2/23/07, Mathews, Irimpan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Dear Friends,

Sorry for the non CCP4 question. We are planning to purchase a small glove
box to setup crystallization trays under anaerobic conditions. If you have
used glove boxes for crystallization, would you please give me some idea?

We are thinking of getting the 815 series from Plas-labs (link below).

http://www.plas-labs.com/

Thank you very much,
Mathews

Ps: If others are interested, I will post a summary.



[ccp4bb] Question about glove boxes for protein crystallization

2007-02-22 Thread Mathews, Irimpan
Dear Friends,

Sorry for the non CCP4 question. We are planning to purchase a small glove box 
to setup crystallization trays under anaerobic conditions. If you have used 
glove boxes for crystallization, would you please give me some idea?

We are thinking of getting the 815 series from Plas-labs (link below). 

http://www.plas-labs.com/

Thank you very much,
Mathews

Ps: If others are interested, I will post a summary.