Re: [ccp4bb] R-merge is too high !!

2018-10-17 Thread Gerard Bricogne
wishes, The STARANISO developers. - Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:52:40 +0800 From: Zhang Foggy Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] R-merge is too high !! To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Dear All, Sorry for the late reply. I was out of town in last two weeks. Again, thanks for your kindly comments, and

Re: [ccp4bb] R-merge is too high !!

2018-10-16 Thread Zhang Foggy
Dear All, Sorry for the late reply. I was out of town in last two weeks. Again, thanks for your kindly comments, and here are the summary for the additional comments and my responses: 1. Summary: The high value of the R-merge might be due to the wrong orientation matrix (beam center), anisotrop

Re: [ccp4bb] R-merge is too high !!

2018-09-29 Thread Thomas Cleveland
I once had a problem that seemed to manifest itself similarly to what you describe. It turned out to be a misindexing of the diffraction origin by +/- 1 due to a slightly incorrect beam center. You can use the pointless "centre" option to do a search for the correct center. There's an example of th

Re: [ccp4bb] R-merge is too high !!

2018-09-28 Thread Rajesh Kumar
I totally agree with Berry. Please consider Rpim, CC1/2 and I/sigI for cutting the data. Rmerge is old approach as it is data redundancy dependent. Thank you Rajesh ---x With regards Rajesh K. Harijan, Ph.D. Schramm Laboratory Albert Einstein College of Medicine 1300 Morris Park Ave., Bro

Re: [ccp4bb] R-merge is too high !!

2018-09-28 Thread Edward A. Berry
The fact that chi^2 is approximately 1.0 in all shells says that the deviations are about what is expected from the error model. The fact that Rpim is much lower than Rmeas means that you have rather high redundancy. This would seem to be a case of collecting low dose per image and making up fo

Re: [ccp4bb] R-merge is too high !!

2018-09-28 Thread Ditlev Egeskov Brodersen
1) Double check space group (run POINTLESS with unmerged data). 2) Process only as much data as needed for full completenes and see what you get (Rpim is OK, so the means of your structure factors are good, which also is consistent with your low refinement R factors and the maps). Best, Ditlev

Re: [ccp4bb] R-merge is too high !!

2018-09-28 Thread Phil Evans
It is well known that Rmerge is a terrible criterion for determining a resolution cutoff, see eg P.A.Karplus,K.Diederichs,Science336,1030(2012) As the intensities get weaker at high resolution, Rmerge tends to infinity, with no sensible cutoff. CC(1/2) is generally considered the best criterion

[ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] R-merge is too high !!

2018-09-28 Thread Herman . Schreuder
frames to see what kind of Rmerges come out then. Good luck! Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] Im Auftrag von Zhang Foggy Gesendet: Freitag, 28. September 2018 10:10 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] R-merge is too high !! Dear All, Sorry for

[ccp4bb] R-merge is too high !!

2018-09-28 Thread Zhang Foggy
Dear All, Sorry for the off-topic. I recently collected a set of data. The diffraction spots are extremely sharp. However, When I used HKL3000 to scale it, I get a final resolution at 3.1A with overall R-merge ~0.54 (R-merge in the highest 3.2A-3.1A shell: 1.59). Then I solve the structure with f