Re: [ccp4bb] What to put on Custom Declaration for shipped samples?

2012-11-07 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Hi Frank,

I like your letter with the random initiative :-)
And then the thread by citing a regulation, which they probably never have 
heard of. I would additionally add the regulation numbers for the dewar. There 
are two or three IATA numbers that should be mentioned to indicate its in line 
with transportation on passenger aircrafts.

Jürgen

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On Nov 7, 2012, at 1:39, Frank von Delft 
frank.vonde...@sgc.ox.ac.ukmailto:frank.vonde...@sgc.ox.ac.uk wrote:

Can't say I've made Felix's experiences:  I've never had problems and rarely 
funny looks -- a bit of patient explanation does the job.

That's when flying with the dry shipper myself, so not quite what you asked;  
but I carry along a letter with nice departmental  university letter-head and 
important-looking signature, along the lines pasted at the bottom.

phx






On 06/11/2012 21:32, Felix Frolow wrote:

Jim, dottore...
Starting back traveling to synchrotrons in the beginning of 80 I say, do not 
volunteer information, more magic words you say, more papers you fetch, more 
faxes you send in advance
more they will torture you. You do not need custom declaration anywhere (at 
least in Europe), in states I would drive
We have send a fax with a full description of Polaroid 3000ASA in 1992 in 
Heathrow, and they ( security, I was ready to take them apart) burn these 
sensitive films on the purpose  by X-rays
on our way to Photon Factory.
Many years after that in 2008, one of these people (I have very good memory) 
again in Heathrow told me - you have two choices - either irradiation or 
invasive check, and we will not be gentle.
I choose irradiation. I will met him next time in a  bar or  a pub and will 
take very nice care of him :-)


DO NOT  VOLUNTEER INFORMATION, IT WILL BE AGAINST YOU….
If it is written non-infectious, they will read infectious, you will write 
non-hazardous - they will read hazardous, you will say lysozyme - they will 
read anthrax….
And the most terrible thing for you will be if they will apply frontal check, 
not selection which you may snick, but total check.
Just go forward, take another person with you, takes doubles, go to different 
check-in points, system is working sporadically, increase your chance by 
multiplication
FF

Dr Felix Frolow
Professor of Structural Biology and Biotechnology, Department of Molecular 
Microbiology and Biotechnology
Tel Aviv University 69978, Israel

Acta Crystallographica F, co-editor

e-mail: mbfro...@post.tau.ac.ilmailto:mbfro...@post.tau.ac.il
Tel:  ++972-3640-8723
Fax: ++972-3640-9407
Cellular: 0547 459 608

On Nov 6, 2012, at 22:25 , Jim Pflugrath 
jim.pflugr...@rigaku.commailto:jim.pflugr...@rigaku.com wrote:



I was asked by our shipping folks what we should put on the Customs Declaration 
so that samples that we ship or that are shipped to us (in dewars, styrofoam 
boxes, and/or padded envelopes) would not be held up in Customs.

I had them put:

Scientific samples of less than 1 mg of non-infectious, non-hazardous protein. 
 No health hazard.

but it has been so long that I have had to do so.  I suppose I could name the 
exact protein, (e.g. hen egg white lysozyme), but maybe that is not a good idea.

What wording do folks put on these forms nowadays?  What works?  Do I need to 
put the buffer components?

Thanks for responses.

Jim


-

This letter relates to the Dry Shipper being transported by  on AIRLINE 
flight CODE to/from the SYNCHROTRON, COUNTRY from the UNIVERSITY.
The package contains frozen protein crystals produced by the INSITUTE as part 
of a RANDOM INITIATIVE.
These non-toxic and non-hazardous proteins were isolated from Escherichia coli 
using molecular biology recombinant techniques as research samples for 
structural studies. The samples DO NOT contain any animal or viral products in 
accordance with NCIE guidelines (reference: GUIDELINES FOR IMPORTATION #1114) 
and DO NOT have any biological activity.



In order to maintain the integrity and scientific value of the samples, they 
SHOULD NOT be removed from the container or left at room temperature, as this 
will change the temperature balance in the samples.  Failure to follow these 
guidelines will result in the destruction of several months of scientific work. 
 The container has been designed to maintain the samples at low temperature for 
the duration of the flight



Re: [ccp4bb] What to put on Custom Declaration for shipped samples?

2012-11-07 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker

Hi Jim,

I remember the same discussion somectime ago on the bb. The consensus 
was that there is a standard IATA document (IATA special provision A152) 
for these kinds of shipments, this greatly decreases the risk of 
destruction of you samples at Customs. See this thread 
http://www.mail-archive.com/ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg26370.html


Flip

Op 11/6/2012 21:25, Jim Pflugrath schreef:

I was asked by our shipping folks what we should put on the Customs Declaration 
so that samples that we ship or that are shipped to us (in dewars, styrofoam 
boxes, and/or padded envelopes) would not be held up in Customs.

I had them put:

Scientific samples of less than 1 mg of non-infectious, non-hazardous protein.  No 
health hazard.

but it has been so long that I have had to do so.  I suppose I could name the 
exact protein, (e.g. hen egg white lysozyme), but maybe that is not a good idea.

What wording do folks put on these forms nowadays?  What works?  Do I need to 
put the buffer components?

Thanks for responses.

Jim


[ccp4bb] What to put on Custom Declaration for shipped samples?

2012-11-06 Thread Jim Pflugrath
I was asked by our shipping folks what we should put on the Customs Declaration 
so that samples that we ship or that are shipped to us (in dewars, styrofoam 
boxes, and/or padded envelopes) would not be held up in Customs.

I had them put:  

Scientific samples of less than 1 mg of non-infectious, non-hazardous protein. 
 No health hazard.

but it has been so long that I have had to do so.  I suppose I could name the 
exact protein, (e.g. hen egg white lysozyme), but maybe that is not a good idea.

What wording do folks put on these forms nowadays?  What works?  Do I need to 
put the buffer components?  

Thanks for responses.

Jim

Re: [ccp4bb] What to put on Custom Declaration for shipped samples?

2012-11-06 Thread Sean Seaver
Hi Jim,

If there are magic words that always get items through customs, please let me 
know! 

In our experience, it is very hard to predict what will or won't be held up. 
Lucky the vast majority of items go through without an issue. We've had better 
luck using FedEx instead of TNT shipping although it shouldn't matter.

Depending on the country, they may want the origin of the material (synthetic, 
animal derived, etc.). I would be as complete as possible in your description. 
I suspect this doesn't apply, but it's sometimes worth dividing samples as 
larger sizes can be more tightly regulated.

Regards,

Sean Seaver, PhD

P212121
http://store.p212121.com/


Re: [ccp4bb] What to put on Custom Declaration for shipped samples?

2012-11-06 Thread Felix Frolow
Jim, dottore...
Starting back traveling to synchrotrons in the beginning of 80 I say, do not 
volunteer information, more magic words you say, more papers you fetch, more 
faxes you send in advance 
more they will torture you. You do not need custom declaration anywhere (at 
least in Europe), in states I would drive
We have send a fax with a full description of Polaroid 3000ASA in 1992 in 
Heathrow, and they ( security, I was ready to take them apart) burn these 
sensitive films on the purpose  by X-rays
on our way to Photon Factory.
Many years after that in 2008, one of these people (I have very good memory) 
again in Heathrow told me - you have two choices - either irradiation or 
invasive check, and we will not be gentle.
I choose irradiation. I will met him next time in a  bar or  a pub and will 
take very nice care of him :-)


DO NOT  VOLUNTEER INFORMATION, IT WILL BE AGAINST YOU….
If it is written non-infectious, they will read infectious, you will write 
non-hazardous - they will read hazardous, you will say lysozyme - they will 
read anthrax….
And the most terrible thing for you will be if they will apply frontal check, 
not selection which you may snick, but total check. 
Just go forward, take another person with you, takes doubles, go to different 
check-in points, system is working sporadically, increase your chance by 
multiplication
FF

Dr Felix Frolow   
Professor of Structural Biology and Biotechnology, Department of Molecular 
Microbiology and Biotechnology
Tel Aviv University 69978, Israel

Acta Crystallographica F, co-editor

e-mail: mbfro...@post.tau.ac.il
Tel:  ++972-3640-8723
Fax: ++972-3640-9407
Cellular: 0547 459 608

On Nov 6, 2012, at 22:25 , Jim Pflugrath jim.pflugr...@rigaku.com wrote:

 I was asked by our shipping folks what we should put on the Customs 
 Declaration so that samples that we ship or that are shipped to us (in 
 dewars, styrofoam boxes, and/or padded envelopes) would not be held up in 
 Customs.
 
 I had them put:  
 
 Scientific samples of less than 1 mg of non-infectious, non-hazardous 
 protein.  No health hazard.
 
 but it has been so long that I have had to do so.  I suppose I could name the 
 exact protein, (e.g. hen egg white lysozyme), but maybe that is not a good 
 idea.
 
 What wording do folks put on these forms nowadays?  What works?  Do I need to 
 put the buffer components?  
 
 Thanks for responses.
 
 Jim