Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-31 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, once again I am filled with graditude to this list--there were many helpful responses and even some geek humor. I have decided to go with a dual-boot windows7/linux, which seems easy enough. All the best, and thanks everyone for your quick and helpful advice. Jacob Keller

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-30 Thread Nian Huang
A dual boot laptop is all you need. I always reinstall the windows to get rid of bloatware anyway. If you are going to buy a mac, you can also try the triple boot, but I don't think anybody is doing it. Although it is very convenient, a virtual machine will affect the performance of the software.

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-30 Thread Antony Oliver
Erm, somewhat confused — if you are going to buy a Mac — why would you need (or want!) a triple boot system? It all seems to work just fine on OS X. Tony. On 30 Aug 2011, at 07:38, Nian Huang wrote: A dual boot laptop is all you need. I always reinstall the windows to get rid of bloatware

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-30 Thread Nian Huang
There are some windows only software, for example 3ds Max. But you have a point, you probably don't need linux system in this case. Nian On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:55 AM, Antony Oliver antony.oli...@sussex.ac.ukwrote: Erm, somewhat confused — if you are going to buy a Mac — why would you need

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-30 Thread Pete Meyer
gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: From: George M. Sheldrick gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 3:12 PM It is simply a result of the 'zero dependency' philosophy. In other words, the exact opposite

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-30 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 09:55 -0500, Pete Meyer wrote: but I'm all in favor of dropping gui's for tasks that don't involve dealing with graphical data second that. I was about to say while it is not expected that everyone practicing crystallography should master the use of command line, but

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-30 Thread Roger Rowlett
Personally, I like having the GUI front end for training and education, especially for undergraduates. It has made protein XRD much more accessible as a tool for many labs that would otherwise find the barrier for entry very high. In the "old days,"--8 years ago

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-29 Thread Nat Echols
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu wrote: are there any additional problems or known issues running ccp4 or other xtal software on windows 7 (beyond those of Vista, etc.?) Phenix, ARP/wARP, and HKL2000 do not run on Windows. I'm pretty sure none of

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-29 Thread Ian Tickle
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Nat Echols nathaniel.ech...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu wrote: are there any additional problems or known issues running ccp4 or other xtal software on windows 7 (beyond those of Vista, etc.?)

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-29 Thread Roger Rowlett
The CCP4 suite runs very well in a virtual machine (e.g. VirtualBox) in Windows. You can share folders between VBox and Windows so you can run graphically intensive apps like Coot and Pymol natively under Windows but still use data from your Linux VM. Roger Rowlett On Aug 28, 2011 10:24 PM, Jacob

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-29 Thread George M. Sheldrick
The current SHELX binaries (including the beta-test multi-CPU SHELXD) all appear to run fine under Windows 7. There is no need to use a virtual box etc. George On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 11:53:05PM -0700, Nat Echols wrote: On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-29 Thread George M. Sheldrick
It is simply a result of the 'zero dependency' philosophy. In other words, the exact opposite of current trends in crystallographic computing (e.g. Phenix/CCTBX). George On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:39:16PM -0500, Jacob Keller wrote: You know, why does your software always seem so clean? Was it

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-29 Thread Paul Smith
-Kettering Cancer Center - New York Institute of Technology - www.paladinscientific.com --- On Mon, 8/29/11, George M. Sheldrick gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: From: George M. Sheldrick gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-29 Thread William Kennedy
- www.paladinscientific.com --- On Mon, 8/29/11, George M. Sheldrick gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: From: George M. Sheldrick gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 3:12 PM It is simply a result of the 'zero

[ccp4bb] Windows 7 and Xtal Software

2011-08-28 Thread Jacob Keller
Dear Crystallographers, are there any additional problems or known issues running ccp4 or other xtal software on windows 7 (beyond those of Vista, etc.?) Your input would be really appreciate before I sink my own personal $$$ into a new laptop Jacob Keller --