Re: [ccp4bb] atomic coloring for the color blind

2013-06-01 Thread David Schuller

How about Braille for those who are blind to all colours?

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Re: [ccp4bb] atomic coloring for the color blind

2013-06-01 Thread Steven Herron

David,

Do you know of a program to make accurate braille representations of an 
electron density map :)

That would be cool.

Maybe in the future [See: 
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/08/smart-fingertips-virtual-senses/ 
http://www.ethlife.ethz.ch/archive_articles/100816_virtuelle_realitaet_cho/index_EN 
  and 
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/428736/disney-researchers-add-virtual-touch-to-the-real-world/] 



For the really hard core scientist (this is a little creepy): 
http://io9.com/5846275/biotech-breakthrough-monkeys-can-feel-virtual-objects-using-a-brain-implant


Food for thought,
Steve
sherron_...@yahoo.com




On 6/1/2013 12:16 PM, David Schuller wrote:

How about Braille for those who are blind to all colours?



[ccp4bb] atomic coloring for the color blind

2013-05-31 Thread Phoebe A. Rice
I feel badly that one of my undergrads had trouble telling an O from a C in a 
pymol homework set because he's color blind. (The assignment involved telling 
me why the a GTP analog (GDPCP) wasn't hydrolyzed).
Is there a handy by-atom coloring scheme I can recommend that works for the 
red-green color blind?
  thanks,
  Professor Rice


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Phoebe A. Rice
Dept. of Biochemistry  Molecular Biology
The University of Chicago

773 834 1723; pr...@uchicago.edumailto:pr...@uchicago.edu
http://bmb.bsd.uchicago.edu/Faculty_and_Research/

http://www.rsc.org/shop/books/2008/9780854042722.asp


Re: [ccp4bb] atomic coloring for the color blind

2013-05-31 Thread Joel Tyndall
Why not use yellow carbons (colour by atom menu) and hit the builder button in 
pymol which shows bond order (carbonyls).
You could also type colour gray, name o, this colours the carbonyls gray (or 
any other colour that works) name o* colours all oxygens

Hope this helps

From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Phoebe A. 
Rice
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Subject: [ccp4bb] atomic coloring for the color blind

I feel badly that one of my undergrads had trouble telling an O from a C in a 
pymol homework set because he's color blind. (The assignment involved telling 
me why the a GTP analog (GDPCP) wasn't hydrolyzed).
Is there a handy by-atom coloring scheme I can recommend that works for the 
red-green color blind?
  thanks,
  Professor Rice


++

Phoebe A. Rice
Dept. of Biochemistry  Molecular Biology
The University of Chicago

773 834 1723; pr...@uchicago.edumailto:pr...@uchicago.edu
http://bmb.bsd.uchicago.edu/Faculty_and_Research/

http://www.rsc.org/shop/books/2008/9780854042722.asp


Re: [ccp4bb] atomic coloring for the color blind

2013-05-31 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Friday, May 31, 2013 01:34:51 pm Phoebe A. Rice wrote:
 I feel badly that one of my undergrads had trouble telling an O from a C in a 
 pymol homework set because he's color blind. (The assignment involved telling 
 me why the a GTP analog (GDPCP) wasn't hydrolyzed).
 Is there a handy by-atom coloring scheme I can recommend that works for the 
 red-green color blind?

Phoebe:

Here is the podo color palette recommended as being distinguishable
by both protanopic and deuteranopic color-blind viewers.  The down side is
that this is is a more stringent restriction than accommodating red/green
color defects alone, and makes the colors less distinct for normal-vision 
viewers

%
# This file is distributed as part of gnuplot.
# Palette of colors selected to be easily distinguishable by
# color-blind individuals with either protanopia or deuteranopia
# Bang Wong [2011] Nature Methods 8, 441.
set linetype 1 lc rgb black
set linetype 2 lc rgb #e69f00
set linetype 3 lc rgb #56b4e9
set linetype 4 lc rgb #009e73
set linetype 5 lc rgb #f0e442
set linetype 6 lc rgb #0072b2
set linetype 7 lc rgb #d55e00
set linetype 8 lc rgb #cc79a7
set linetype cycle 8
%

Translating these colors to atom types is another question, however.

Ethan

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University of Washington, Seattle 98195-7742


Re: [ccp4bb] atomic coloring for the color blind

2013-05-31 Thread Mark van der Woerd
Professor Rice,

When publishing in NAR (Nucleic Acids Research), it was recommended that we use 
colors friendly to the color blind. You can read about it here: 
http://jfly.iam.u-tokyo.ac.jp/html/color_blind/

It is quite nice that they went to the trouble of showing us how they see it. 
And there are plenty of suggestions how to do better. In fact, it turns out 
that you need not stay away from red and green, but define them somewhat 
different and it will work better.

Ever since I made all my illustrations like this once, I try to do it every 
time, for any journal, just in case. I consult this page often, it is quite 
helpful to me. See especially near the bottom of the page colors unambiguous 
both to color-blinds and non-color-blinds.

Hope this helps you too.

Mark

 

 

 

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I feel badly that one of my undergrads had trouble telling an O from a C in a 
pymol homework set because he's color blind. (The assignment involved telling 
me why the a GTP analog (GDPCP) wasn't hydrolyzed).
Is there a handy by-atom coloring scheme I can recommend that works for the 
red-green color blind? 

  thanks,
  Professor Rice


++
Phoebe A. Rice
Dept. of Biochemistry  Molecular Biology
The University of Chicago
773 834 1723; pr...@uchicago.edu
http://bmb.bsd.uchicago.edu/Faculty_and_Research/
http://www.rsc.org/shop/books/2008/9780854042722.asp







Re: [ccp4bb] atomic coloring for the color blind

2013-05-31 Thread Bryan Lepore
FYI

Kevin Cowtan has a web page that discusses using color diagrams with respect to 
the color blind interpretation.

http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~cowtan/colour/colour.html

-Bryan

Re: [ccp4bb] atomic coloring for the color blind

2013-05-31 Thread Jens Kaiser
Phoebe,
  I'm red green blind myself, and it is not as straight forward as it
sounds. The problem is that we see red and green despite lacking one
of the color receptors (I actually prepared a figure using red and green
once and got a referee comment that red/green blind people would have
difficulties with - which I could attest to being wrong...). We can
distinguish between bright green and bright red! But in between, things
are sketchy. Our brains learned to associate certain gray levels with
either green or red (e.g. on our old BW TV, I did see all the grass as
green, I was flabbergasted at the age of 6 to learn that our neighbor
did not see the colors in our BW TV; Also, I called one of my class
mates in junior high on his ugly green jeans, only to learn they were
washed out black).
  My advice: Convert the image to gray scales. If you can't tell the
difference, people with color seeing problems can't tell them apart.
Actually, chose your color scheme so it gives good contrast in a gray
scale image. This also should take care of the much rarer blue
deficiency; and it might cut down on reproduction cost - as everything
should be reproducible on a BW copy machine.

HTH,

Jens

 I feel badly that one of my undergrads had trouble telling an O from a C
 in a pymol homework set because he's color blind. (The assignment involved
 telling me why the a GTP analog (GDPCP) wasn't hydrolyzed).
 Is there a handy by-atom coloring scheme I can recommend that works for
 the red-green color blind?
   thanks,
   Professor Rice


 ++

 Phoebe A. Rice
 Dept. of Biochemistry  Molecular Biology
 The University of Chicago

 773 834 1723; pr...@uchicago.edumailto:pr...@uchicago.edu
 http://bmb.bsd.uchicago.edu/Faculty_and_Research/

 http://www.rsc.org/shop/books/2008/9780854042722.asp