Re: [ccp4bb] data processing with XDS

2014-05-21 Thread Almudena Ponce Salvatierra
Thank you very much for useful suggestions! :-)

Best,

Almu


2014-05-20 9:44 GMT+02:00 Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de:

 Dear Almudena,

 if you follow the recommendations given in the Difficult datasets
 article on XDSwiki, your problem would have a good chance to be solved.

 best wishes,

 Kay

 On Mon, 19 May 2014 18:18:46 +0200, Almudena Ponce Salvatierra 
 maps.fa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
 
 I am looking for some suggestions here. I have lately collected some
 datasets but the spots are very very weak... it is very difficult to
 process them. At times it looks like XDS is stalled or at times it just
 says that it can not interpret the lattice parameters... also while
 running
 integrate I have such a message after each range of images:
 
 !!! WARNING !!! REFINEMENT DID NOT CONVERGE
  LAST CORRECTION SHIFT WAS   9.1E-03 (should be 
  1.0E-03)
 
 I guess this is not good at all. And I wonder what to do? Is there any
 info
 that I can get out from these data at all? or rather not?
 
 I wonder if the problem is to find the spots, I have tried with HKL2000
 and
 it can't even find enough of them for indexing.
 
 Any ideas are welcome.
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Almudena.
 
 --
 Almudena Ponce-Salvatierra
 Macromolecular crystallography and Nucleic acid chemistry
 Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry
 Am Fassberg 11 37077 Göttingen
 Germany
 





-- 
Almudena Ponce-Salvatierra
Macromolecular crystallography and Nucleic acid chemistry
Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry
Am Fassberg 11 37077 Göttingen
Germany


Re: [ccp4bb] data processing with XDS

2014-05-20 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Almudena,

if you follow the recommendations given in the Difficult datasets article on 
XDSwiki, your problem would have a good chance to be solved.

best wishes,

Kay

On Mon, 19 May 2014 18:18:46 +0200, Almudena Ponce Salvatierra 
maps.fa...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear all,

I am looking for some suggestions here. I have lately collected some
datasets but the spots are very very weak... it is very difficult to
process them. At times it looks like XDS is stalled or at times it just
says that it can not interpret the lattice parameters... also while running
integrate I have such a message after each range of images:

!!! WARNING !!! REFINEMENT DID NOT CONVERGE
 LAST CORRECTION SHIFT WAS   9.1E-03 (should be   1.0E-03)

I guess this is not good at all. And I wonder what to do? Is there any info
that I can get out from these data at all? or rather not?

I wonder if the problem is to find the spots, I have tried with HKL2000 and
it can't even find enough of them for indexing.

Any ideas are welcome.

Best wishes,

Almudena.

-- 
Almudena Ponce-Salvatierra
Macromolecular crystallography and Nucleic acid chemistry
Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry
Am Fassberg 11 37077 Göttingen
Germany



[ccp4bb] data processing with XDS

2014-05-19 Thread Almudena Ponce Salvatierra
Dear all,

I am looking for some suggestions here. I have lately collected some
datasets but the spots are very very weak... it is very difficult to
process them. At times it looks like XDS is stalled or at times it just
says that it can not interpret the lattice parameters... also while running
integrate I have such a message after each range of images:

!!! WARNING !!! REFINEMENT DID NOT CONVERGE
 LAST CORRECTION SHIFT WAS   9.1E-03 (should be   1.0E-03)

I guess this is not good at all. And I wonder what to do? Is there any info
that I can get out from these data at all? or rather not?

I wonder if the problem is to find the spots, I have tried with HKL2000 and
it can't even find enough of them for indexing.

Any ideas are welcome.

Best wishes,

Almudena.

-- 
Almudena Ponce-Salvatierra
Macromolecular crystallography and Nucleic acid chemistry
Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry
Am Fassberg 11 37077 Göttingen
Germany


Re: [ccp4bb] data processing with XDS

2014-05-19 Thread Harry Powell
Hi Almudena

Have you tried Mosflm (since this is the CCP4 BB...)? 

On 19 May 2014, at 17:18, Almudena Ponce Salvatierra wrote:

 Dear all, 
 
 I am looking for some suggestions here. I have lately collected some datasets 
 but the spots are very very weak... it is very difficult to process them. At 
 times it looks like XDS is stalled or at times it just says that it can not 
 interpret the lattice parameters... also while running integrate I have such 
 a message after each range of images:
 
 !!! WARNING !!! REFINEMENT DID NOT CONVERGE
  LAST CORRECTION SHIFT WAS   9.1E-03 (should be   1.0E-03)
 
 I guess this is not good at all. And I wonder what to do? Is there any info 
 that I can get out from these data at all? or rather not? 
 
 I wonder if the problem is to find the spots, I have tried with HKL2000 and 
 it can't even find enough of them for indexing. 
 
 Any ideas are welcome. 
 
 Best wishes, 
 
 Almudena.
 
 -- 
 Almudena Ponce-Salvatierra
 Macromolecular crystallography and Nucleic acid chemistry
 Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry
 Am Fassberg 11 37077 Göttingen
 Germany
 

Harry
--
** note change of address **
Dr Harry Powell, MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, Francis Crick Avenue, 
Cambridge Biomedical Campus, Cambridge CB2 0QH
Chairman of European Crystallographic Association SIG9 (Crystallographic 
Computing) 











Re: [ccp4bb] data processing with XDS

2014-05-19 Thread FOOS Nicolas
Hi Almudena,

you can also try mosflm as said Harry.

And you can try different setting in the XDS.INP, you can try to reduce the 
STRONG_PIXEL (because you said spots are weak) number or/and 
MINIMUM_NUMBER_OF_PIXELS_IN_A_SPOT (if the spot are small).

Nicolas

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Objet : [ccp4bb] data processing with XDS

Dear all,

I am looking for some suggestions here. I have lately collected some datasets 
but the spots are very very weak... it is very difficult to process them. At 
times it looks like XDS is stalled or at times it just says that it can not 
interpret the lattice parameters... also while running integrate I have such a 
message after each range of images:

!!! WARNING !!! REFINEMENT DID NOT CONVERGE
 LAST CORRECTION SHIFT WAS   9.1E-03 (should be   1.0E-03)

I guess this is not good at all. And I wonder what to do? Is there any info 
that I can get out from these data at all? or rather not?

I wonder if the problem is to find the spots, I have tried with HKL2000 and it 
can't even find enough of them for indexing.

Any ideas are welcome.

Best wishes,

Almudena.

--
Almudena Ponce-Salvatierra
Macromolecular crystallography and Nucleic acid chemistry
Max Planck Institute for Biophysical Chemistry
Am Fassberg 11 37077 Göttingen
Germany