[ccp4bb] disulfide bonds, SE sample, and Xray absorption edges

2008-09-25 Thread Michael Jackson
Hello,   I had recently collected and solved the phases for a protein molecule using CCP4 and the ShelXCDE SAD method in it.  What I was wondering was that the peaks for the three SE incorporated methionines are there as expected, but there is one peak scored roughly as the second largest where

Re: [ccp4bb] disulfide bonds, SE sample, and Xray absorption edges

2008-09-25 Thread George M. Sheldrick
Unexpected peaks in a S-SAD experiment sometimes turn out to be chloride, sulfate or a metal ion. I would suggest that you run shelxd with and without the disulfide option (or with different numbers of disulfides) to see which is best, and also run SHELXE with the -b flag set. This will

Re: [ccp4bb] disulfide bonds, SE sample, and Xray absorption edges

2008-09-25 Thread Jim Pflugrath
There is ALWAYS anomalous scattering. You do not have be at the absorption edge to get it. The question is just whether your experiment is good enough to detect it. So your question of overlapping always has the answer Yes, but I would remove the words absorption edge from your question.

Re: [ccp4bb] disulfide bonds, SE sample, and Xray absorption edges

2008-09-25 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Thursday 25 September 2008 08:45:10 Michael Jackson wrote:   This data was collected at 0.97960 Angstroms which is close to the peak   Xray absorption edge for Se but does anyone know if a disulfide has any   absorption edge overlapping here?

Re: [ccp4bb] disulfide bonds, SE sample, and Xray absorption edges

2008-09-25 Thread konstantin v. korotkov
Your case might be different, but it could also be a true Se signal from Se-Cys incorporated into your protein during Se-Met expression. Depending on the protocol you used, Se may get incorporated into Cys, especially if only source of sulfur is Se-Met. We have seen such signals from Cys-