Re: [ccp4bb] losing zinc during crystallization

2008-10-15 Thread Guenter Fritz
Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Guenter Fritz Sent: Fri 9/26/2008 3:21 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] losing zinc during crystallization Hi Sue, I fully agree with Thierry, you might have to cyrstallize the protein under exclusion of dioxygen

Re: [ccp4bb] losing zinc during crystallization

2008-09-26 Thread Fischmann, Thierry
: Re: [ccp4bb] losing zinc during crystallization Here is my two cents... How strong zinc is captured by the protein is very protein dependent: I always thought that a great case for this variability was the protection of RING ubiquitin ligases against NEM. Cysteine-catalyzing HECT ubiquitin

Re: [ccp4bb] losing zinc during crystallization

2008-09-26 Thread Guenter Fritz
Hi Sue, I fully agree with Thierry, you might have to cyrstallize the protein under exclusion of dioxygen. There are many metallo proteins which have to be crystallized that way. But a first attempt might be the TCEP as already suggested by many others. If you need advice regarding

[ccp4bb] losing zinc during crystallization

2008-09-25 Thread Sue Roberts
Hello Everyone I've been trying to crystallize a zinc-containing enzyme for what seems to me to be an eternity. The protein contains stoichiometric zinc (1 zinc/ protein monomer) when isolated and the zinc is required for activity. Each crystal we've obtained has lost the zinc and

Re: [ccp4bb] losing zinc during crystallization

2008-09-25 Thread Roger Rowlett
Based on my own experience with zinc-metalloenzymes with thiolate ligands, it's usually more a problem to get the zinc OUT than get it IN. Zinc is pretty thiophilic, so removing it once ligated in a multiple Cys environment is often difficult. Have you tried TCEP as a reducing agent for

Re: [ccp4bb] losing zinc during crystallization

2008-09-25 Thread Eric
We had a zinc-finger containing protein that we were soaking with different heavy atom compounds. It turns out KAu(CN)2 provided the best diffraction of several soaks. We found out it was because the gold had replaced the zinc ion and was coordinated by the Cys and His's. The lab nickednamed

Re: [ccp4bb] losing zinc during crystallization

2008-09-25 Thread Jennifer Han-Chun Tsai
I don't know if anyone had experience of TCEP inducing zinc acetate to precipitate. This paper mentioned this. The Crystal Structure of the Olfactory Marker Protein at 2.3 Å Resolution * Paul C. Smith, Stuart Firestein and John F. Hunt Journal of Molecular

Re: [ccp4bb] losing zinc during crystallization

2008-09-25 Thread Artem Evdokimov
or purification? This would change some of the other solutions that you might attempt. Cheers, Artem -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Roberts Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:36 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] losing zinc during

Re: [ccp4bb] losing zinc during crystallization

2008-09-25 Thread Artem Evdokimov
Han-Chun Tsai Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:18 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] losing zinc during crystallization I don't know if anyone had experience of TCEP inducing zinc acetate to precipitate. This paper mentioned this. The Crystal Structure of the Olfactory

Re: [ccp4bb] losing zinc during crystallization

2008-09-25 Thread Engin Ozkan
*Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] losing zinc during crystallization I don't know if anyone had experience of TCEP inducing zinc acetate to precipitate. This paper mentioned this. The Crystal Structure of the Olfactory Marker Protein at 2.3 Å Resolution *Paul C. Smith, Stuart Firestein and John F. Hunt