Re: [ccp4bb] making high res image in pymol

2014-01-29 Thread A K
Thank you all for the suggestions. I lowered the hash-max and could get ray
tracing to complete for line or even ribbon modes (to be honest line mode
worked even without lowering the hash-max). But as Matthew pointed out, I
could not get it to work in the cartoon mode. I think I am restricted here
with my hardware limitations...
Alex


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Yong Wang wang_yon...@lilly.com wrote:

  Hi Alex,



 If you don't mind forgoing the ray tracing, you may try the draw command
 to specifically set the resolution (and antialiasing) to your needs, and
 then save the image.



 Yong




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 Hi all,

 I am trying to generate a high resolution figure of a molecule together
 with its symmetry mates (250 A readius) for a poster. If I try to ray it,
 the pymol session crashes (perhaps too many molecules are open). Using png
 xxx.png, dpi=300 or dpi=600 command doesn't make any difference; the image
 is still kind of low resolution for A0 or A1. Any idea how I can generate
 this in pymol? (I am using the free version of pymol)

 Thank you in advance,

 Alex



[ccp4bb] making high res image in pymol

2014-01-28 Thread A K
Hi all,
I am trying to generate a high resolution figure of a molecule together
with its symmetry mates (250 A readius) for a poster. If I try to ray it,
the pymol session crashes (perhaps too many molecules are open). Using png
xxx.png, dpi=300 or dpi=600 command doesn't make any difference; the image
is still kind of low resolution for A0 or A1. Any idea how I can generate
this in pymol? (I am using the free version of pymol)
Thank you in advance,
Alex


Re: [ccp4bb] making high res image in pymol

2014-01-28 Thread Harry Powell
CCP4MG?

On 28 Jan 2014, at 15:27, A K wrote:

 Hi all,
 I am trying to generate a high resolution figure of a molecule together with 
 its symmetry mates (250 A readius) for a poster. If I try to ray it, the 
 pymol session crashes (perhaps too many molecules are open). Using png 
 xxx.png, dpi=300 or dpi=600 command doesn't make any difference; the image is 
 still kind of low resolution for A0 or A1. Any idea how I can generate this 
 in pymol? (I am using the free version of pymol)
 Thank you in advance,
 Alex

Harry
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Re: [ccp4bb] making high res image in pymol

2014-01-28 Thread Matthew Franklin

Hi Alex -

I'm not surprised you're having memory issues.  I just tried this test 
with one of my molecules.  Simply generating and displaying the symmetry 
mates in a 250 A radius required 4 G of memory, and the raytracing would 
have needed a lot more (I only have 8 G on this computer, so I didn't 
finish that job).  Unless you're running your job on a server-scale 
computer with 32 G or more of memory, I think you'll have trouble with 
so many molecules.


However, that's with cartoon rendering.  I assume you're trying to show 
unit cell packing, and the molecules will be so tiny that it doesn't 
matter what they look like.  Use ribbon rendering instead, and the 
memory demands are greatly reduced.  I was able to raytrace a 2000 x 
2000 pixel image (which should be more than adequate for a poster - 
that's 10 x 10 inches at 200 dpi) in 40 seconds with peak memory usage 
under 2 G.


This is with the Fink compiled version of Pymol - version 1.6.9.0.

Hope that helps,

Matt


On 1/28/14 10:27 AM, A K wrote:

Hi all,
I am trying to generate a high resolution figure of a molecule 
together with its symmetry mates (250 A readius) for a poster. If I 
try to ray it, the pymol session crashes (perhaps too many molecules 
are open). Using png xxx.png, dpi=300 or dpi=600 command doesn't make 
any difference; the image is still kind of low resolution for A0 or 
A1. Any idea how I can generate this in pymol? (I am using the free 
version of pymol)

Thank you in advance,
Alex



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Re: [ccp4bb] making high res image in pymol

2014-01-28 Thread Sampson, Jared
Hi Alex -

You can also try reducing the value of 
`hash_max`http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Hash_max (e.g. `set hash_max, 
50`).  The default value is 130; a lower number reduces the memory PyMOL tries 
to obtain for ray tracing.  The trace will take longer, but hopefully will get 
you through without crashing.

Cheers,
Jared

--
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Xiangpeng Kong Lab
NYU Langone Medical Center
http://kong.med.nyu.eduhttp://kong.med.nyu.edu/


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Subject: [ccp4bb] making high res image in pymol

Hi all,
I am trying to generate a high resolution figure of a molecule together with 
its symmetry mates (250 A readius) for a poster. If I try to ray it, the pymol 
session crashes (perhaps too many molecules are open). Using png xxx.png, 
dpi=300 or dpi=600 command doesn't make any difference; the image is still kind 
of low resolution for A0 or A1. Any idea how I can generate this in pymol? (I 
am using the free version of pymol)
Thank you in advance,
Alex

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Re: [ccp4bb] making high res image in pymol

2014-01-28 Thread Yong Wang
Hi Alex,

If you don't mind forgoing the ray tracing, you may try the draw command to 
specifically set the resolution (and antialiasing) to your needs, and then save 
the image.

Yong

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Yong Wang, Ph.D. Research Advisor, 
Discovery Chemistry Research
Eli Lilly  Company Phone:  317-655-9145
Lilly Corporate Center  DC 0403  Fax:  317-651-6333
Indianapolis, IN  46285 wang_y...@lilly.com

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From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of A K
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 10:27 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] making high res image in pymol

Hi all,
I am trying to generate a high resolution figure of a molecule together with 
its symmetry mates (250 A readius) for a poster. If I try to ray it, the pymol 
session crashes (perhaps too many molecules are open). Using png xxx.png, 
dpi=300 or dpi=600 command doesn't make any difference; the image is still kind 
of low resolution for A0 or A1. Any idea how I can generate this in pymol? (I 
am using the free version of pymol)
Thank you in advance,
Alex