[ccp4bb] mutation and minimization - SUMMARY

2011-05-13 Thread Andreas Förster
First off, thanks to all those who sent me their suggestions, a great 
variety indeed.  Here's the summary:


- turbo-frodo can do local rotamer optimization based on environment.
- SCRWL and WHAT-IF are servers for homology modeling
- Swiss PDB viewer/DeepView can also do homology modeling, but not 
natively on Linux

- mutate and regularize geometry in coot
- phenix.pdbtools from the command line (might be able to minimize only 
part of the model)




Andreas



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Andreas Förster, Research Associate
Paul Freemont  Xiaodong Zhang Labs
Department of Biochemistry, Imperial College London
http://www.msf.bio.ic.ac.uk


Re: [ccp4bb] mutation and minimization

2011-05-13 Thread Eric Pettersen

On May 12, 2011, at 4:00 PM, CCP4BB automatic digest system wrote:


Hey all,

I would like to introduce point mutations in a structure and quickly
(and dirtily) minimize the new residue.  (Best rotamer dependent on
local environment, or the like.)  What are simple approaches that  
don't

involve VMD/NAMD or some such overkill.


Chimera is pretty good for this.  It has a Rotamer tool for making the  
substitution based on Dunbrack or Richardson libraries, and can screen  
based on probability / H-bonds formed / steric clashes:


http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/ContributedSoftware/rotamers/rotamers.html

You can then use Chimera's Minimize Structure tool to minimize the  
side chain and/or the local environment or, if you're feeling frisky,  
the whole protein:


http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/ContributedSoftware/minimize/minimize.html

--Eric

Eric Pettersen
UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

Chimera home page:  www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera

Re: [ccp4bb] mutation and minimization

2011-05-13 Thread Brett, Thomas
On a similar extension to this topic, is there a good software out there for 
doing these kinds of modifications and minimizations for protein structures 
with chemicals entities (i.e., protein/inhibitor complexes). What I am looking 
to do is take a protein/inhbitor complex and add chemical modifications onto 
the inhibitor and see how they fit. so a little minimization/relaxation of the 
surrounding protein would be nice. It there a freely available software that 
will allow something like this, if not what commercial packages are 
cheapest/best at this? Thanks and sorry for hijacking this thread.
-tom

Tom J. Brett, PhD
Assistant Professor of Medicine
Division of Pulmonary and Critical Care
Washington University School of Medicine
Campus Box 8052, 660 S. Euclid
Saint Louis, MO 63110
http://brettlab.dom.wustl.edu/

From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Eric Pettersen 
[p...@cgl.ucsf.edu]
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 2:59 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] mutation and minimization

On May 12, 2011, at 4:00 PM, CCP4BB automatic digest system wrote:

Hey all,

I would like to introduce point mutations in a structure and quickly
(and dirtily) minimize the new residue.  (Best rotamer dependent on
local environment, or the like.)  What are simple approaches that don't
involve VMD/NAMD or some such overkill.

Chimera is pretty good for this.  It has a Rotamer tool for making the 
substitution based on Dunbrack or Richardson libraries, and can screen based on 
probability / H-bonds formed / steric clashes:

http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/ContributedSoftware/rotamers/rotamers.html

You can then use Chimera's Minimize Structure tool to minimize the side chain 
and/or the local environment or, if you're feeling frisky, the whole protein:

http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/ContributedSoftware/minimize/minimize.html

--Eric


Eric Pettersen

UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu

Chimera home page:  www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimerahttp://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera


Re: [ccp4bb] mutation and minimization

2011-05-13 Thread Eric Pettersen

On May 13, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Tom J. Brett wrote:

On a similar extension to this topic, is there a good software out  
there for doing these kinds of modifications and minimizations for  
protein structures with chemicals entities (i.e., protein/inhibitor  
complexes). What I am looking to do is take a protein/inhbitor  
complex and add chemical modifications onto the inhibitor and see  
how they fit. so a little minimization/relaxation of the surrounding  
protein would be nice. It there a freely available software that  
will allow something like this, if not what commercial packages are  
cheapest/best at this? Thanks and sorry for hijacking this thread.


Chimera also has a tool (Build Structure) that can be used for simple  
chemical modifications:


http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/current/docs/ContributedSoftware/editing/editing.html

It's not as nice as some builders, but it can generally get the job  
done.  Chimera can compute the charges on your modified structure by  
calling out to AmberTools/antechamber (included with the Chimera  
download) and then perform minimization.  Charge computation might  
take awhile if the inhibitor is large-ish.


This isn't to say that you shouldn't follow the protocol outlined by  
Saugata Hazra in another posting.  It depends on your goals.


--Eric

Eric Pettersen
UCSF Computer Graphics Lab
http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu




[ccp4bb] mutation and minimization

2011-05-12 Thread Andreas Förster

Hey all,

I would like to introduce point mutations in a structure and quickly 
(and dirtily) minimize the new residue.  (Best rotamer dependent on 
local environment, or the like.)  What are simple approaches that don't 
involve VMD/NAMD or some such overkill.


Thanks.


Andreas



--
Andreas Förster, Research Associate
Paul Freemont  Xiaodong Zhang Labs
Department of Biochemistry, Imperial College London
http://www.msf.bio.ic.ac.uk


Re: [ccp4bb] mutation and minimization

2011-05-12 Thread Thomas Holder

Hi Andreas,


I would like to introduce point mutations in a structure and quickly
(and dirtily) minimize the new residue. (Best rotamer dependent on local
environment, or the like.) What are simple approaches that don't involve
VMD/NAMD or some such overkill.


PyMOL has a Mutagenesis wizard but you have to pick the best rotamer 
yourself.


Cheers,
  Thomas

--
Thomas Holder
MPI for Developmental Biology
Spemannstr. 35
D-72076 Tübingen


Re: [ccp4bb] mutation and minimization

2011-05-12 Thread gauri misra
You can try Swiss-PDB viewer..

2011/5/12 Thomas Holder thomas.hol...@tuebingen.mpg.de

 Hi Andreas,


  I would like to introduce point mutations in a structure and quickly
 (and dirtily) minimize the new residue. (Best rotamer dependent on local
 environment, or the like.) What are simple approaches that don't involve
 VMD/NAMD or some such overkill.


 PyMOL has a Mutagenesis wizard but you have to pick the best rotamer
 yourself.

 Cheers,
  Thomas

 --
 Thomas Holder
 MPI for Developmental Biology
 Spemannstr. 35
 D-72076 Tübingen



Re: [ccp4bb] mutation and minimization

2011-05-12 Thread Bjørn Panyella Pedersen

Hi Andreas
Without the x-ray data, phenix.pdbtools might do this
(http://www.phenix-online.org/version_docs/dev-712/pdbtools.htm)
From the website:
[phenix.pdbtools can] Perform model geometry regularization. Minimize 
geometry target to idealize bond lenghths, bond angles, planarities, 
chiralities, dihedrals, and non-bonded interactions.


Try to specify to only optimize/minimize a selected part of the model 
(i.e. your point mutation and the residues around it).


An alternative could be to re-refine the point-mutant model using the 
original x-ray data if you have access to it. Since you are making only 
a minor change it should work just fine (quickly and dirtily as asked 
for :)).


hth
-Bjørn

--
Bjørn Panyella Pedersen
Macromolecular Structure Group
Dept. of Biochemistry and Biophysics
University of California, San Francisco



On 2011-05-12 08:35, Andreas Förster wrote:

Hey all,

I would like to introduce point mutations in a structure and quickly
(and dirtily) minimize the new residue. (Best rotamer dependent on local
environment, or the like.) What are simple approaches that don't involve
VMD/NAMD or some such overkill.

Thanks.


Andreas





Re: [ccp4bb] mutation and minimization

2011-05-12 Thread Daniel Fernandez
Or try SCWRL from Dunbrack's lab...

--- On Thu, 5/12/11, gauri misra kamga...@gmail.com wrote:

From: gauri misra kamga...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] mutation and minimization
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 12:52 PM

You can try Swiss-PDB viewer..

2011/5/12 Thomas Holder thomas.hol...@tuebingen.mpg.de


Hi Andreas,




I would like to introduce point mutations in a structure and quickly

(and dirtily) minimize the new residue. (Best rotamer dependent on local

environment, or the like.) What are simple approaches that don't involve

VMD/NAMD or some such overkill.




PyMOL has a Mutagenesis wizard but you have to pick the best rotamer yourself.



Cheers,

  Thomas



-- 

Thomas Holder

MPI for Developmental Biology

Spemannstr. 35

D-72076 Tübingen





Re: [ccp4bb] mutation and minimization

2011-05-12 Thread Luthra,Amit
Hi 
 If you are familiar with turbo-frodo, you can use it for mutagenesis and 
refinement .  Just go inside the editing menu, replace the residue, save the 
file and REFINE the residue. You can also select the stretch of residues by 
picking the first and last residues so you will get the refinement (best 
rotamer) based on local environment.

Amit Luthra, Ph.D.
Post-Doctoral Fellow
The Radolf Laboratory
Department of Medicine
University of Connecticut Health Center
[w] http://spirocheteresearch.uchc.edu



From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Andreas Förster 
[docandr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 11:35 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] mutation and minimization

Hey all,

I would like to introduce point mutations in a structure and quickly
(and dirtily) minimize the new residue.  (Best rotamer dependent on
local environment, or the like.)  What are simple approaches that don't
involve VMD/NAMD or some such overkill.

Thanks.


Andreas



--
 Andreas Förster, Research Associate
 Paul Freemont  Xiaodong Zhang Labs
Department of Biochemistry, Imperial College London
 http://www.msf.bio.ic.ac.uk