Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation during concentration for crystallization trials

2010-04-09 Thread Peter Hsu
Hi,

I've not tried this on column cleavage before, but have you tried first 
purifying the protein. cleaving the tag off the column and rerunning it through 
the column to capture the tag and washing off the protein?

Also, with concentration. Going from a 50 mM buffer, and .3M salt, down to 
nearly water may not be great thing to do. Can your protein concentrate in your 
purification buffer to about .1-.2mM? If it can, I highly suggest trying to use 
the dialysis buttons from Hampton and screen a variety of different pHs, salts 
and additives to see what your protein can tolerate, before committing an 
entire purification prep to concentration.

I've also noticed if you're using the centricon concentrators, make sure you 
take it out every few minutes and pipette it the solution a bit. These 
concentrators tend to create a concentration gradient, making the local 
concentration of protein very high in bottom of the concentrator, often times 
resulting in ppt.

Hope it helps


[ccp4bb] protein degradation during concentration for crystallization trials

2010-04-08 Thread vikrant saa
Dear all
I am working on purification of 14 kd protein(pI  8.3, basic protein)  that has 
MBP(maltose binding protein, 45 kd,) tag, and same protein in other 
vector(pGEX-KT) that has GST tag. During affinity purification in both cases I 
used 300mM nacl and 50 mM tris, pH 7.5 buffer throughout the purification.I do 
on column cleavage with TEV to remove the tag (for crystallization purpose).
Purification with MBP tag:
 After cleavage MBP also appear in elution fraction along with cleaved protein 
of my interest. To remove MBP(pI 5.0) from protein of my interest I have to do 
anion exchange chr. with DEAE resin(weak anion exchanger) with buffer of pH7.3. 
Hence I do dialysis against the buffer 20mM nacl and 20 mM tris, ph 7.3. in 
cold room.
I have few problems:
1) why the MBP elute with protein of my interest ( I tried at low salt 
concentration also but still elute).
2) During dialysis my protein of interest  precipitate.
3) If I tried FPLC,  protein of interest and MBP elute in same fraction with 
superdex 200 column.
 
Problem with GST tag purification: it give me impure protein even after enough 
washes with high salt concentration buffer (upto 2 molar). When i concentrate 
protein in CENTRICON (Millipore, centrifugation 4000rpm at 4 degree, 300mM NaCl 
and 50 mm Tris buffer with 5mM BME) it degrade very fast and probably 
aggregate  as smear obtain on SDS page below the size of protein after 
concentration (even protease inhibitor not very much helpful) and band 
intensity of protein of interest almost remain same before and after 
concentration step.
Please send me your valuable suggestion to overcome to these difficulty. I have 
also tried with some additives such as sucrose, glycerol,  PBS buffer.
 
 
With regards
-- 
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VIKRANT
Junior Research fellow
Cancer Research Institute
Advanced Centre for Treatment, Research and Education in Cancer (ACTREC),
 Kharghar, Navi Mumbai, India
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Re: [ccp4bb] protein degradation during concentration for crystallization trials

2010-04-08 Thread Maia Cherney

Hi,

MBP tag:
1.there might be a TEV cleavage site in your MBP variant.
2. your protein needs salt to stay in solution
3. your protein forms aggregates with MBP

GST tag:
you probably concentrate a protease together with your protein. You need 
a protease inhibitor kit to take care of different types of proteases.


It looks like a His tag would be a better option for you.

Maia

vikrant saa wrote:

Dear all
I am working on purification of 14 kd protein(pI  8.3, basic protein)  
that has MBP(maltose binding protein, 45 kd,) tag, and same protein in 
other vector(pGEX-KT) that has GST tag. During affinity purification 
in both cases I used 300mM nacl and 50 mM tris, pH 7.5 buffer 
throughout the purification.I do on column cleavage with TEV to remove 
the tag (for crystallization purpose).

Purification with MBP tag:
 After cleavage MBP also appear in elution fraction along with cleaved 
protein of my interest. To remove MBP(pI 5.0) from protein of my 
interest I have to do anion exchange chr. with DEAE resin(weak anion 
exchanger) with buffer of pH7.3. Hence I do dialysis against the 
buffer 20mM nacl and 20 mM tris, ph 7.3. in cold room.

I have few problems:
1) why the MBP elute with protein of my interest ( I tried at low salt 
concentration also but still elute).

2) During dialysis my protein of interest  precipitate.
3) If I tried FPLC,  protein of interest and MBP elute in same 
fraction with superdex 200 column.
 
Problem with GST tag purification: it give me impure protein even 
after enough washes with high salt concentration buffer (upto 2 
molar). When i concentrate protein in CENTRICON (Millipore, 
centrifugation 4000rpm at 4 degree, 300mM NaCl and 50 mm Tris buffer 
with 5mM BME) it degrade very fast and probably aggregate  as smear 
obtain on SDS page below the size of protein after concentration (even 
protease inhibitor not very much helpful) and band intensity of 
protein of interest almost remain same before and after concentration 
step.
Please send me your valuable suggestion to overcome to these 
difficulty. I have also tried with some additives such as sucrose, 
glycerol,  PBS buffer.
 
 
With regards

--
$$
VIKRANT
Junior Research fellow
Cancer Research Institute
Advanced Centre for Treatment, Research and Education in Cancer (ACTREC),
 Kharghar, Navi Mumbai, India
$$$

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