Re: [ccp4bb] shape complementarity calculations

2009-03-04 Thread Pierre Rizkallah
Hi Vaheh,

Below is a reply I made to the BB in 2007 after a similar enquiry. I expect the 
program should still
work the same, although I haven't used it in recent releases. You have to run 
it from line command,
as there is no interface for it in CCP4i. If you are running under Windows, as 
I do, you have to
start a DOS prompt window and run it from there. You might even need to specify 
the full path of the
binary executable. You also need to specify the output log file, and you can 
either type your input
directly or put it in a text file. I hope this helps.

Pierre

p.s. I echo Ed Berry's exhortation: If you have been running MD on your 
interacting molecules, the
SC parameter is probably meaningless. But I am prepared for surprises.

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The SC manual URL http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/dist/html/sc.html does contain all the 
information you need,
but I agree it takes some deciphering.

The basic parameters are the selections of two 'molecules' whose interface you 
want to study. For
that purpose, the script or line input is really minimal, such as:

molecule 1
zone C 3 C 5
molecule 2
chain D
chain E
end

Here molecule 1 is a number of residues in chain C (zone), and molecule 2 is 
all of chains D and E.
You can include and exclude other atoms in each 'molecule' selection. The 
instruction 'end' tells
the program to start calculating. You can modify the program defaults by adding 
other instructions
for 'dot density', 'probe radius' and others, but I usually run it with all the 
hard wired defaults.
These parameters are largely equivalent to their counterparts in AREAIMOL to 
determine how
accurately you want the interfaces to be calculated.

Good Luck.

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 Oganesyan, Vaheh oganesy...@medimmune.com 03/03/09 10:28 PM 
Colleagues,

Would some one kindly suggest software that calculates shape
complementarity of two interacting proteins based on co-crystal
structure?
I've seen number of reports with sc parameter included but none of
those mention how it was done.
Among non-runnable programs in CCP4 there is the sc program that indeed
does not run.

Thanks in advance.

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[ccp4bb] shape complementarity calculations

2009-03-03 Thread Oganesyan, Vaheh
Colleagues,

Would some one kindly suggest software that calculates shape
complementarity of two interacting proteins based on co-crystal
structure?
I've seen number of reports with sc parameter included but none of
those mention how it was done.
Among non-runnable programs in CCP4 there is the sc program that indeed
does not run.

Thanks in advance.

___
Vaheh




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Re: [ccp4bb] shape complementarity calculations

2009-03-03 Thread Edward A. Berry

Actually sc is part of the ccp4 package.
(more $CDOC/sc.doc)
The reference describing the procedure is:
1. Michael C. Lawrence and Peter M. Colman J. Mol. Biol., 234, p946 -
   p950 (1993)

As you say, it calculates shape complimentarity of the surfaces as they
are docked in the structure. So before you attribute changes in sc to
conformational changes, be sure the surfaces haven't moved wrt each other!

Cheers,
Ed

Oganesyan, Vaheh wrote:

Colleagues,

Would some one kindly suggest software that calculates shape
complementarity of two interacting proteins based on co-crystal
structure?
I've seen number of reports with sc parameter included but none of
those mention how it was done.
Among non-runnable programs in CCP4 there is the sc program that indeed
does not run.

Thanks in advance.

___
Vaheh




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Re: [ccp4bb] shape complementarity calculations - oops!

2009-03-03 Thread Edward A. Berry

Oganesyan, Vaheh wrote:


Among non-runnable programs in CCP4 there is the sc program that indeed
does not run.



Sorry, I didn't see the rest of your post.
I had sc running and producing meaningful results back in 2006-2007,
I can check which version etc.

Ed


Re: [ccp4bb] shape complementarity calculations

2009-03-03 Thread Mike Lawrence

Hi Vaheh

I have not had anyone report problems with sc of late. If you send me  
the relevant files or output I can check it out for you.


sincerely

Mike Lawrence, PhD

WEHI Principal Research Fellow
Division of Structural Biology
Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research
1G Royal Parade, Parkville
Victoria 3052, AUSTRALIA

Tel. 61-3-9345-2693
Fax 61-3-9345-2686
Email: lawre...@wehi.edu.au

On 04/03/2009, at 9:17 AM, Oganesyan, Vaheh wrote:


Colleagues,

Would some one kindly suggest software that calculates shape
complementarity of two interacting proteins based on co-crystal
structure?
I've seen number of reports with sc parameter included but none of
those mention how it was done.
Among non-runnable programs in CCP4 there is the sc program that  
indeed

does not run.

Thanks in advance.

___
Vaheh




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Division of Structural Biology
Walter and Eliza Hall Institute of Medical Research
1G Royal Parade, Parkville
Victoria 3052, AUSTRALIA

Tel. 61-3-9345-2693
Fax 61-3-9345-2686
Email: lawre...@wehi.edu.au