Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution and data/parameter ratio, which one is more important?

2013-03-15 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Guangyu, 80% solvent is an awful lot. The first thing I would do is to check that there is not another protein molecule hiding somewhere in the asymmetric unit. What I usually do in these cases is to set a very large map radius (say 40-60 Å) and look at the complete solvent region to see

[ccp4bb] How to use SHELXE to perform phasing and density modification

2013-03-15 Thread Wei Feng
Dear all, I have an original sca file with anomalous signal and a heavy atoms sites file in PDB format. PDB FILE : CRYST1 77.780 77.780 187.640 90.00 90.00 120.00 P 61 2 2 SCALE1 0.012857 0.007423 -0.00 -0.0 SCALE2 -0.00 0.014846 -0.000.0

Re: [ccp4bb] How to use SHELXE to perform phasing and density modification

2013-03-15 Thread George Sheldrick
Dear Wei, There is a new SHELX homepage with extensive documentation and downloading instructions at: http://shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de/SHELX/ SHELXE requires reflection files name.hkl (native) and name_fa.hkl (data for phasing) and and the heavy atoms in SHELX format in name_fa.res. I recommend

Re: [ccp4bb] How to use SHELXE to perform phasing and density modification

2013-03-15 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Wei, if you are not too familiar with shelx c/d/e, I suggest the following procedure, provided shelx c/d/e are installed: - - get hkl2map from http://webapps.embl-hamburg.de/hkl2map/ - - run hkl2map from a terminal and from the directory where

Re: [ccp4bb] How to use SHELXE to perform phasing and density modification (correction)

2013-03-15 Thread George Sheldrick
Sorry, a better command line for running SHELXE in this case would have been: shelxe name name_fa -a5 -s0.5 -q -h -z this ensures that the heavy atoms are refined before calculating the initial phases, this often gives much better maps. If you are not sure whether the space group is P6122 or

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution and data/parameter ratio, which one is more important?

2013-03-15 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Guangyu, I think it's not as straightforward as comparing d/p ratios, that is only one of several factors that influences precision. Another important factor would be the overall level of thermal motion disorder which will most likely be significantly higher in the 3.6A 80% case; after all

Re: [ccp4bb] RNA 3D structure alignment

2013-03-15 Thread eugene . krissinel
superpose and gesamt in ccp4 On 14 Mar 2013, at 20:53, Chen Zhao wrote: Dear all, I am now struggling to align two 3D RNA structures. I know there are a bunch of web servers, but they either just generated a pdb file with a single aligned structure, or they left the ligand out. Does

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution and data/parameter ratio, which one is more important?

2013-03-15 Thread Guangyu Zhu
Ian, Because it is same protein, the high thermal motion is likely caused by crystal packing, and should be corrected by TLS refinement. The B left over should be similar. Anyway, this is just a hypothetical question. I tried to make other things same and just compare resolution and d/p. But

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution and data/parameter ratio, which one is more important?

2013-03-15 Thread Jacob Keller
Well, wouldn't NCS be a parallel situation? I have heard, for example, that the maps of viruses are considerably better at a given resolution than monomeric proteins. So I would guess that someone has looked at this topic in the case of NCS. Maybe high solvent content would be equivalent to

Re: [ccp4bb] How to use SHELXE to perform phasing and density modification

2013-03-15 Thread Wei Feng
Dear George, Thank you very much for your help! Wei At 2013-03-15 18:09:09,George Sheldrick gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: Dear Wei, There is a new SHELX homepage with extensive documentation and downloading instructions at: http://shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de/SHELX/ SHELXE requires

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Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution and data/parameter ratio, which one is more important?

2013-03-15 Thread Pete Meyer
Guangyu, If I'm understanding your question correctly; you're asking if all other things are equal (resolution, degree of disorder, etc), does improving the data/parameter ratio result in an improved model? The short answer is: (at least sometimes) yes. Pete Guangyu Zhu wrote: Ian,

Re: [ccp4bb] space group determination problem

2013-03-15 Thread Phil Evans
what happened to all the even l h reflections? Phil On 15 Mar 2013, at 15:09, gengxiang zhao gzh...@gmail.com wrote: Dear CCP4s, I am looking for more experienced concerns to determine which space group my crystal is. At present, we take it as P42212 (#94). HKL is below:

Re: [ccp4bb] space group determination problem

2013-03-15 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Gengxiang, Personally I find it impossible to reliably assign a space group from integrated reflections because you just don't know if the apparent systematic absence violations are due to a TDS streak or overlapping neighbouring strong spots. In the old days (i.e. when we had precession

Re: [ccp4bb] space group determination problem

2013-03-15 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - you seem to have absences for virtually all the (0 0 4n+1 4n+3) and (2n+1 0 0) reflections which is consistent with P42 212 but you can be misled. Is there any pseudo translation with either X or Z 0.5 - that could give you similar absences. As Ian says, be wary.. Eleanor On 15 March 2013

[ccp4bb] Please recommend linux workstation

2013-03-15 Thread jie liu
Dear All I am planning to buy a linux workstation for crystallography. It seems that Dell does not offer workstations with linux right now. Any good experience to recommend? Thank you! Jie Liu

Re: [ccp4bb] Please recommend linux workstation

2013-03-15 Thread Tim Gruene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Jie Liu, most Linux distributions are not too difficult to install, and with a decent internet connection you only need to download a few MB for a bootable CD for network installation - do you have a reason why you do not want this yourself?

Re: [ccp4bb] Please recommend linux workstation

2013-03-15 Thread Sabuj Pattanayek
Dell Precision workstations are sold with RHEL, Ubuntu, or no OS (FreeDOS), but you can't see those options from the public websites. You need to try to get a Dell Premier account, talk to the Dell Rep for your university about that, here's a screen shot from our uni's premier site :

Re: [ccp4bb] Please recommend linux workstation

2013-03-15 Thread Jim Fairman
I've been pretty happy with the machines from System76https://www.system76.com/. They come with the most recent version of Ubuntu pre-installed. However, as Tim says - installing Linux on any machine you can buy is a pretty simple process now. Cheers, Jim On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Tim

Re: [ccp4bb] space group determination problem

2013-03-15 Thread Michael Thompson
As a follow up to Ian's suggestion, the LABELIT software (sorry for a non-CCP4 suggestion) will create artificial precession images from your raw oscillation images. Documentation can be found here: http://adder.lbl.gov/labelit/ And an article describing the functionality can be found here:

Re: [ccp4bb] Please recommend linux workstation

2013-03-15 Thread Alan Cheung
Some of those system76 desktops look overclocked. I've always wanted to try one to speed up processing but have been warned away from it for fear of errors and stability. Does anyone have any experience of overclocked desktops for PX software? Alan On 15/03/2013 17:55, Jim Fairman wrote:

Re: [ccp4bb] The number of protein-protein complex in recent years

2013-03-15 Thread Morten Groftehauge
On the subject: Are there any protein-protein complexes commercially available (for cheap)? The only one I could think of was hemoglobin. Morten On 14 March 2013 01:56, Wei Feng ccp4...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear Lucas, Thank you for your help! Wei At 2013-03-13 23:05:54,Lucas

Re: [ccp4bb] space group determination problem

2013-03-15 Thread Ian Tickle
Michael, yes sorry I had (temporarily) forgotten about LABELIT. In the pseudo-precession image in the article (Fig. 3a) one can clearly see the TDS streaks along the axes which could easily fool you into misassigning the space group if all you have are the integrated intensities. Very nice!

[ccp4bb] anti-His6 Ab

2013-03-15 Thread Elias Fernandez
Dear All, would you be able to recommend a primary anti-His6 Ab for western blotting? Thus far, the ones we've used are not very specific to the N-terminal hexahistidines and we pick up lots of background. Also, there's one (others?) from Sigma that is conjugated to HRP, but costs ~$650. Thanks!

Re: [ccp4bb] anti-His6 Ab

2013-03-15 Thread Brian Mark
Hi Elias, Not sure if you've looked at this option, but Pierce sells a polyHis tag detection kit that is not based on an antibody, but instead is a nickel-activated derivative of HRP. Has worked quite well for us in the past. Brian Mark On 2013-03-15, at 12:36 PM, Elias Fernandez

Re: [ccp4bb] anti-His6 Ab

2013-03-15 Thread Lauren Boucher
We haven't found a great primary (or secondary) antibody, but we have used the NTA Atto 488 dye (Sigma 39625) with some success at primary detection of His-tagged proteins directly in our gels, without the need for a transfer step to a membrane. We run BSA alongside our samples to determine the

[ccp4bb] Strange density in solvent channel and high Rfree

2013-03-15 Thread Andrey Nascimento
*Dear all,* *I have collected a good quality dataset of a protein with 64% of solvent in P 2 21 21 space group at 1.7A resolution with good statistical parameters (values for last shell: Rmerge=0.202; I/Isig.=4.4; Complet.=93% Redun.=2.4, the overall values are better than last shell). The

Re: [ccp4bb] Strange density in solvent channel and high Rfree

2013-03-15 Thread Ed Pozharski
Check for translational NCS And you are way too conservative with resolution. Even those holding onto the Rmerge-dictated past would probably acquiesce to lower I/sig cutoff. If you are using aimless, follow its recommendations based on CC1/2, it's good for you. Cheers, Ed. On Fri,

Re: [ccp4bb] Strange density in solvent channel and high Rfree

2013-03-15 Thread Francis E Reyes
Wow, Usually on the default settings of adxv, I can see spots at this I/sig! I suspect your data goes higher than 1.77. Include more of the high resolution data. You very likely don't have the correct space group. F On Mar 15, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Andrey Nascimento

Re: [ccp4bb] Strange density in solvent channel and high Rfree

2013-03-15 Thread Phoebe A. Rice
What happens if you solvent-flatten/flip/massage that map, but tell the software the solvent content much lower than what you think it is now? Maybe you'll find another copy of the molecule? From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of

Re: [ccp4bb] Strange density in solvent channel and high Rfree

2013-03-15 Thread Parthasarathy Sampathkumar
Hi Andrey, I am taking a risky guess: From your slide #2, it looks like a termini (unless this correspond to the beginning or end of disordered a loop) of the protein chain(s) is (are) extending toward(s) the solvent channel. Are the density features shown in slides #3,4, and 5 extend from this

Re: [ccp4bb] Strange density in solvent channel and high Rfree

2013-03-15 Thread Edward A. Berry
Or give it to arp/warp, either with the current model to improve or with phases from the current model to build new model? Phoebe A. Rice wrote: What happens if you solvent-flatten/flip/massage that map, but tell the software the solvent content much lower than what you think it is now? Maybe

Re: [ccp4bb] Strange density in solvent channel and high Rfree

2013-03-15 Thread Kendall Nettles
I second Phoebe's suggestion. Looks like another molecule to me. If you are doing molecular replacement you may need to get creative about trimming. When we had a case like that it wasn't until the third person worked on it that we go a solution because he trimmed the model differently than the

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 Update 019

2013-03-15 Thread Andrey Lebedev
Dear CCP4 Users A CCP4 update has just been released, consisting of the following changes. * Aimless: Task interface fixed in part of input customisation section * Molrep: Improvements to scoring system and bug fixes * Logview: Command-prompt routine for viewing individual log files with QtRView