[ccp4bb] lithium incorporation in refmac

2012-06-08 Thread Faisal Tarique
Dear all

i have downloaded lithium coordinates for the density i guess is for
lithium but i think while refinement in refmac is not taking lithium into
the consideration. i want to know how to obtain cif file for lithium and
incorporate it into the refmac for refinement..

thanx in advance

l


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Faisal
School of Life Sciences
JNU


Re: [ccp4bb] lithium incorporation in refmac

2012-06-08 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi

You don't need a CIF file for elements or their ions, only for
compounds.  Li and Li+1 are already in the list of scattering factors
($CLIBD/atomsf.lib) as indeed are all the elements with their common
ions.  Are you sure you have the atom name in the right columns on the
HETATM record (e.g. Li in 13-14 and LI1+ in 77-80)?

Cheers

-- Ian

On 8 June 2012 19:35, Faisal Tarique faisaltari...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all

 i have downloaded lithium coordinates for the density i guess is for lithium
 but i think while refinement in refmac is not taking lithium into the
 consideration. i want to know how to obtain cif file for lithium and
 incorporate it into the refmac for refinement..

 thanx in advance

 l


 --
 Regards

 Faisal
 School of Life Sciences
 JNU



Re: [ccp4bb] lithium incorporation in refmac

2012-06-08 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Friday, June 08, 2012 11:35:25 am Faisal Tarique wrote:
 Dear all
 
 i have downloaded lithium coordinates for the density i guess is for
 lithium but i think while refinement in refmac is not taking lithium into
 the consideration. 

If you see density, it might not be lithium :-)

 i want to know how to obtain cif file for lithium and
 incorporate it into the refmac for refinement..

LI is in the standard monomer dictionary. 
You don't have to do anything special.
But given that it has no scattering power to speak of, you may
have to add explicit restraints to hold it in place during
refinement.

LI appears in 41 PDB entries.  You might want to inspect the
density in some of them to get a feel for how it looks.

-- 
Ethan A Merritt
Biomolecular Structure Center,  K-428 Health Sciences Bldg
University of Washington, Seattle 98195-7742


Re: [ccp4bb] lithium incorporation in refmac

2012-06-08 Thread Faisal Tarique
thanx a lot...

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Ian Tickle ianj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 You don't need a CIF file for elements or their ions, only for
 compounds.  Li and Li+1 are already in the list of scattering factors
 ($CLIBD/atomsf.lib) as indeed are all the elements with their common
 ions.  Are you sure you have the atom name in the right columns on the
 HETATM record (e.g. Li in 13-14 and LI1+ in 77-80)?

 Cheers

 -- Ian

 On 8 June 2012 19:35, Faisal Tarique faisaltari...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Dear all
 
  i have downloaded lithium coordinates for the density i guess is for
 lithium
  but i think while refinement in refmac is not taking lithium into the
  consideration. i want to know how to obtain cif file for lithium and
  incorporate it into the refmac for refinement..
 
  thanx in advance
 
  l
 
 
  --
  Regards
 
  Faisal
  School of Life Sciences
  JNU
 




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Regards

Faisal
School of Life Sciences
JNU