Re: [ccp4bb] No Cl- or S Anomalous Signal

2011-09-02 Thread Randy Read
Dear Jacob, The signal for weak anomalous sites can be stronger in Phaser SAD LLG maps than in model-phased anomalous difference Fouriers, especially if the substructure already contains the stronger sites, so that you're just looking for what is still left to be explained in the SAD data.

Re: [ccp4bb] No Cl- or S Anomalous Signal

2011-09-02 Thread James Holton
It is quite possible that the S- and Cl- signal is being lost under that from the Se sites. Could be: 1) simply noise that would swamp the S-SAD signal anyway 2) you just aren't contouring your map low enough (sigma is not on an absolute scale) 3) trigonometry. Remember, with SAD you are not

Re: [ccp4bb] No Cl- or S Anomalous Signal

2011-09-02 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Jacob, ... or you could use the anomalous residual map in SHARP, the first program to offer this kind of calculation 15 years ago or so: see La Fortelle, E. de Bricogne, G. (1997). Methods Enzymol. 276, 472–494. and/or the SHARP manual at

Re: [ccp4bb] No Cl- or S Anomalous Signal

2011-09-01 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Where in refinement of your model are you ? At an early stage I wouldn't be surprised to only see SeMets but once you've refined your structure and go back to calculate an anomalous map with the improved phases you might double your signal for SeMet and start seeing sulfurs. An alternative

Re: [ccp4bb] No Cl- or S Anomalous Signal

2011-09-01 Thread jens Preben Morth
Hi Jacob I agree with Juergen, and just add that your Cys and Cl might not be fully occupied. cheers Preben On 9/1/11 10:03 PM, Jacob Keller wrote: Dear Crystallographers, I recently have been working with a 2.5 Ang SeMet peak wavelength dataset which contains 2 cys's and also a couple of