Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement of ligand with alternate chemical structure

2023-02-17 Thread Stuart McQuarrie
Dear Elke, That seems to have done the trick. Can't thank you enough!!! I'm so happy. For future readers: ca6 alt loc A and residue 401 70% occ pa3 #1 alt loc B and residue 402 30% occ pa3 #2 alt loc C and residue 403 30% occ I could have probably done pa3 #1 and #2 as the same residue 402 as I

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement of ligand with alternate chemical structure

2023-02-17 Thread Elke De Zitter
d7-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> À: "CCP4BB" Envoyé: Jeudi 16 Février 2023 18:40:31 Objet: Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement of ligand with alternate chemical structure Well - I made a copy of a ligand A 2001 and called it B 2001; gave each of the "Ligands" occupancy 0.5, mangled the B molecul

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement of ligand with alternate chemical structure

2023-02-16 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well - I made a copy of a ligand A 2001 and called it B 2001; gave each of the "Ligands" occupancy 0.5, mangled the B molecule a bit and ran REFMAC . It notes these atoms are too close but carries on refinement happily enough.. But when I read the structure into COOT and try to refine the A

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement of ligand with alternate chemical structure

2023-02-16 Thread Nigel Moriarty
Stuart The sum of occ in these three is 1.3 and it looks like you put the occ in the B-factor column. Cheers Nigel --- Nigel W. Moriarty Building 33R0349, Molecular Biophysics and Integrated Bioimaging Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Berkeley, CA 94720-8235 Email : nwmoria...@lbl.gov Web

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement of ligand with alternate chemical structure

2023-02-16 Thread Stuart McQuarrie
Dear everyone that replied, thanks so much for the help thus far. Just for info I’m using Coot for Windows version 0.9.6 EL and phenix.refine version 1.20rc4-4416-000 RE Eleanor: It appears my version of coot/refmac do not support separate ligands in the same space at <0.5 occupancy. As an

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement of ligand with alternate chemical structure

2023-02-15 Thread Georg Mlynek
Dear Stuart, you have to add   allow_duplicate_sequence_numbers() to $HOME/.coot.py in OSX or the appropriate place on Windows. For Windows, as there is no $HOME, Coot uses .coot.py or .coot-preferences/ directory for configuration - these can be found (added to) the directory in which Coot

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement of ligand with alternate chemical structure

2023-02-15 Thread Nigel Moriarty
One may need to set a preference in Coot to allow such a situation to be viewed. Paul helped me but I can't find the email. Cheers Nigel --- Nigel W. Moriarty Building 33R0349, Molecular Biophysics and Integrated Bioimaging Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Berkeley, CA 94720-8235 Email :

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement of ligand with alternate chemical structure

2023-02-15 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I thought that REFMAC tolerated dual occupancies if the sum of the two conformers was <= 1.0? Eleanor Will test.. On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 at 16:37, Stuart McQuarrie < 974c6ca32bc4-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote: > I fit a large cyclic ligand cA6 (cylic hexa-adenylate) and after some >

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement of ligand with alternate chemical structure

2023-02-15 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Stuart, the answer, I think, is here: https://phenix-online.org/phenixwebsite_static/mainsite/files/newsletter/CCN_2015_07.pdf#page=12 Pavel On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 8:37 AM Stuart McQuarrie < 974c6ca32bc4-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote: > I fit a large cyclic ligand cA6 (cylic