Re: Front Panels Personal Update

2015-06-18 Thread Jonathan Katz
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove captainkirk...@gmail.com wrote: That article is quite neat, I must say. I always thought that the logo was only Helvetica, but it's interesting to see what it really is. The only reason I know about the article was due to Google, but

DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

2015-06-18 Thread Chris Osborn
On Jun 18, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Jonathan Katz j...@jonworld.com wrote: There is a Postscript doc out there with the DEC D I G I T A L logo in blocks. That may be a start. http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200712/ancient_history_the_digital_logo.html The logo up to then had been the

RE: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

2015-06-18 Thread Electronics Plus
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:21 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update) On Jun 18, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Jonathan Katz

Re: DEC Logo

2015-06-18 Thread Paul Koning
On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Rod Smallwood rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com wrote: ... My favorite story was one I know to be true. The story was that Ken Olsen drove a Pinto (cheap amercian car) and parked with everyone else. Sure enough there was this tatty Pinto parked in the main car

Re: Front Panels Personal Update

2015-06-18 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
On Thursday, 18 June 2015, Pontus Pihlgren pon...@update.uu.se wrote: The article pointed to by URL above specifically state that it isn't. /P Yeah, I realized that once my phone's *bleep* internet actually loaded the page... about two minutes after I sent the mail. That article is quite

Re: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

2015-06-18 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 18/06/2015 14:58, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: Did you get a chance to see both of the flightworthy Lancasters together last year? I didn't since I'm not in the UK and the time that FM213 was over in the UK intersected with my university terms. Sadly not, I've only ever seen one at a

Re: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

2015-06-18 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 07:20:51AM -0700, Chris Osborn wrote: On Jun 18, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Jonathan Katz j...@jonworld.com wrote: There is a Postscript doc out there with the DEC D I G I T A L logo in blocks. That may be a start.

Re: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

2015-06-18 Thread Cory Smelosky
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: I suppose it's this one: http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/still-image/dec/pdp-1_online/dec.flip_flop_201.102633142.lg.jpg I recall seing a better version of the logo in some manual on bitsavers or similar. Can't find it now. I have

Re: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

2015-06-18 Thread Chris Osborn
On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Pontus Pihlgren pon...@update.uu.se wrote: I suppose it's this one: http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/still-image/dec/pdp-1_online/dec.flip_flop_201.102633142.lg.jpg I found that one a couple of times but it just looked like a rectangle to me, not

Re: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

2015-06-18 Thread Cory Smelosky
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Chris Osborn wrote: I have a copy laying around as PostScript. I?d love to get a copy! Let me find it. -- Follow me on twitter: @FozzTexx Check out my blog: http://insentricity.com -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org

Re: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

2015-06-18 Thread Cory Smelosky
On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Chris Osborn wrote: I have a copy laying around as PostScript. I?d love to get a copy! http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200712/ancient_history_the_digital_logo.html -- Follow me on twitter: @FozzTexx Check out my blog: http://insentricity.com -- Cory Smelosky

Re: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

2015-06-18 Thread Mike Stein
- Original Message - From: Christian Gauger-Cosgrove captainkirk...@gmail.com To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:58 AM Subject: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc On 18 June 2015 at 06:06, Pete Turnbull

Re: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

2015-06-18 Thread Guy Sotomayor
On Jun 18, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Peter Cetinski p...@pski.net wrote: My son is stationed at Beale AFB (where the SR-71s were originally based) and 7963 is on static display there. I've been up to it (you can actually *touch* it!) They are wicked cool looking and *big*. They also have a

Re: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

2015-06-18 Thread Peter Cetinski
My son is stationed at Beale AFB (where the SR-71s were originally based) and 7963 is on static display there. I've been up to it (you can actually *touch* it!) They are wicked cool looking and *big*. They also have a static display of the drone which could be launched from the back

Re: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

2015-06-18 Thread Peter Cetinski
On Jun 18, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Guy Sotomayor g...@shiresoft.com wrote: On Jun 18, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Peter Cetinski p...@pski.net wrote: My son is stationed at Beale AFB (where the SR-71s were originally based) and 7963 is on static display there. I've been up to it (you can actually

Re: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

2015-06-18 Thread Guy Sotomayor
On Jun 18, 2015, at 8:54 AM, Mike Stein mhs.st...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Christian Gauger-Cosgrove captainkirk...@gmail.com To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:58 AM Subject: XH558 - was

Re: Have you seen Droste Week on RetroBattlestations?

2015-06-18 Thread Paul Koning
On Jun 18, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Chuck Guzis ccl...@sydex.com wrote: I went to the website, but still can't figure out what this has to do with chocolate… Here’s the answer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droste_effect It’s a bit obscure unless you are Dutch and over 45 or so years old.

RE: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-18 Thread tony duell
What is the difference between an RK06 and 07 ? Is it capacity? Yes, in particular number of cylinders. Both have 3 heads and IIRC same number of sectors. The RK07 has narrower heads than the RK06. AFAIK the RK07 will not even read an RK06 pack (I am not sure the servo will manage to

Re: Have you seen Droste Week on RetroBattlestations?

2015-06-18 Thread Chuck Guzis
I went to the website, but still can't figure out what this has to do with chocolate... --Chuck

Re: Front Panels Personal Update

2015-06-18 Thread Chris Elmquist
On Thursday (06/18/2015 at 07:50AM -0400), Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: Also typing on a phone sucks. Phoning on a phone sucks too. -- Chris Elmquist

Re: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

2015-06-18 Thread Sean Caron
Hi Christian, I'm guessing by the CLLI code in your sig, you're maybe close to St. Catharines, ON, CA? If that's true, I just wanted to let you know that - IIRC - there is a SR-71 on static display within a car trip of your location in Kalamazoo, MI at the Kalamazoo Air Zoo. It's actually a

RE: Documation card readers for sale

2015-06-18 Thread tony duell
That bloody EDAC connector is not cheap. I ended up sourcing one for like $60. On the other hand you can hunt around for scrap 50 conductor telco No, but it is still available (easily) and it is very well made. Or at least the ones I have used are. The back shells are designed so you can fit

RE: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

2015-06-18 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Chris Osborn Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:03 AM That’s the modern Digital logo, not the DEC logo that looks like the plug-in cards. I thought you had a ps of the original pre-1957 DEC logo. Pre-1957??? That would be a good trick...

Re: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

2015-06-18 Thread Chris Osborn
On Jun 18, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Rich Alderson ri...@livingcomputermuseum.org wrote: That’s the modern Digital logo, not the DEC logo that looks like the plug-in cards. I thought you had a ps of the original pre-1957 DEC logo. Pre-1957??? That would be a good trick… I’m just going along

Altos ACS 8000 8500 board Schematic

2015-06-18 Thread william degnan
Altos ACS 8000 8500 board schematics/chapter from the 8000 hardware supplement posted here: http://vintagecomputer.net/altos/8000/ b

Re: Altos ACS 8000 8500 board Schematic

2015-06-18 Thread Chris Osborn
On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:31 AM, william degnan billdeg...@gmail.com wrote: Altos ACS 8000 8500 board schematics/chapter from the 8000 hardware supplement posted here: http://vintagecomputer.net/altos/8000/ There’s a diagram there but no schematics. If you want the schematics for the 8500

Re: Have you seen Droste Week on RetroBattlestations?

2015-06-18 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 06/18/2015 11:39 AM, Paul Koning wrote: It’s a bit obscure unless you are Dutch and over 45 or so years old. Ah, that explains it, thanks. I like Droste chocolate, but don't recall seeing the recursive label. Land o' Lakes butter, however, I'm familiar with. --Chuck

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-18 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
What is the difference between an RK06 and 07 ? Is it capacity? Could this pack be used to align an RK07 ? I ask because we have an RK07 at the Update Computer Club. /P On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 08:53:22PM +0100, Jarratt RMA wrote: I don't have an RK06 and I am not expecting to get one any

Re: using new technology on old machines. Was: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM

2015-06-18 Thread Alexander Schreiber
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:53:33PM +0200, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 04:53:01PM +, tony duell wrote: I also think it is in the spirit of the computer - using what is available to fix a problem at hand. I think the arduino was overkill when an attiny (smaller,

Re: OT? Compaq 5/60M

2015-06-18 Thread william degnan
I haven't opened the DECpc to check to see if it was an EISA QVGA card or not. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Sean Caron sca...@umich.edu wrote: IIRC, they shipped that QVGA card you show on your Compaq P60 page with the DECpc AXP 150, too, no? Man that thing was awful ... I always lusted

Re: DEC RRD-42 CDROM drives

2015-06-18 Thread Sean Caron
I could always use another RRD42; you're just looking to let go of them for cost of shipping? Best, Sean On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Richard Loken richar...@admin.athabascau.ca wrote: Somebody said something recently about wanting an RRD-42 or two. I just found two of them in my pile

Re: Components Data Books

2015-06-18 Thread Sean Caron
Yes! I am totally with you; just being able to flip through the books and peruse a broad swath of the vendor's product line, has the potential to stir the creativity in a way that's hard to replicate with discrete PDF datasheets for each component ... most vendors Web sites are a mess and it's

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-18 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:39:19AM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-06-18 08:16, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: I ask because we have an RK07 at the Update Computer Club. I didn't know. When did we get one, and from where? We had one many years ago that I dumped. We might still have the packs

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-18 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-06-18 08:16, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: What is the difference between an RK06 and 07 ? Is it capacity? Yes. The RK07 is double the capacity. Could this pack be used to align an RK07 ? I don't think so. The RK06 and RK07 used the same design for the packs, but the RK07 packs twice