If you're going to toss them otherwise, I'd be happy to keep them and give
them a good home until someone came along who could use them ... but I'll
take a backseat to anyone who's actually got one of those systems.
Best,
Sean
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Mike Stein mhs.st...@gmail.com
Just tested the C16, Its free to anyone who wants it and can fix it.
Just pay shipping, Or if you are attending VCFMW I can put it in the
pile of stuff to come.
The whole VID PID works because of gentleman's agreements (ie use
your own VID and don't pretend to be someone else's). It's not clear
how to solve this for folks that don't follow the rules.
If it is a gentleman's agreement (i.e. no licensing/certification fees) why
wouldn't people use
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The whole VID PID works because of gentleman's
On 07/26/2015 01:52 PM, Ali wrote:
The whole VID PID works because of gentleman's agreements (ie
use your own VID and don't pretend to be someone else's). It's not
clear how to solve this for folks that don't follow the rules.
If it is a gentleman's agreement (i.e. no
Some progress on the PDP-12. We borrowed a TU56 tape head from the TU56 in
the warehouse and replaced the broken right head. We reran ran
MAINDEC-12-D3AE-PB PDP-12 TAPE CONTROL TEST, PART 1 OF 2. The diag runs OK,
so at least the timing track in the borrowed tape head is OK.
We reran
[USB]
And the proliferation of unofficial VID and PIDs seems to be an
issue, [...]
Well, given the difficulty of getting official values (USD 4k, per
year(!), seems to be the cheapest option at the moment - certainly
completely out of reach for anything hobbyist), this is hardly
surprising.
On 07/26/2015 06:12 AM, tony duell wrote:
Remember when USB was referred to as the Useless Serial Bus after
it was introduced? I think it was a solid 1-2 years after it was
introduced that I began to notice peripherals designed for it.
I still call it 'Useless Serial Botch' most of the time.
On 07/26/2015 03:01 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
Yes, but they don't seem to sue folks who just create clones of
someone else's VID/PID.
I suspect the problem is more of trying to avoid the costs of
developing/adapting S/W for their particular device, which is why
they clone an existing device
Oops, misremembered: Altair 680.
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Ian S. King isk...@uw.edu wrote:
I don't remember the exact date, but I was in high school which places it
in the mid-1970s: there was a storefront called The Retail Computer Store
that sold Altairs, IMSAIs, Chromemco and
Well, given the difficulty of getting official values (USD 4k, per
year(!), seems to be the cheapest option at the moment - certainly
completely out of reach for anything hobbyist), this is hardly
surprising.
Ahhh! So it is not a gentleman's agreement but a licensing scheme.
On 7/26/15 2:12 PM, Dave G4UGM wrote:
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The whole VID PID
I need to pick the brains of some PDP-8 experts. According to
the references I can find, especially the Small Computer Handbook,
the GTF instruction should include the M837 interrupt inhibit bit
in AC3. However, maindec 8E-D1HA test 05 seems to depend
on this not being true. Running the GTF
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