ISO "VME/10 Microcomputer System Equipment Manual"

Moto part number M68KVSEM/D1 I have most of the manuals, but not the hardware manual.

Re: Monster 6502

"The effort that Eric put into this project is not clearly evident at first glance.." Oohhh reayyy... I'm not so sure about that, now! Gawd, what a lovely piece of work that man hath wrought! And am I the only one who felt the list of 'notable users' was essentially backwards?? Should be

Re: Monster 6502

Here is a video of it running at Maker Faire http://makezine.com/2016/05/27/this-functioning-monster-6502-is-a-larger-than-life-version-of-the-iconic-microchip/ It will be at CHM for VCF West, too. :)

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> > > Could that actually have been for the VIC? An admittedly simple (and > > > restrictive) high-level language coded in CBM BASIC, with like 3K of > > > RAM? =) > > > > I dunno about the VIC-20, but COMPUTE! had one for the Commodore 64 which > > overlaid on BASIC. Clever idea I thought at the

Monster 6502

Here is a video of it running at Maker Faire http://makezine.com/2016/05/27/this-functioning-monster-6502-is-a-larger-than-life-version-of-the-iconic-microchip/

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

@Cameron Pilot for the C-64 does sound much more plausible, yes.. And likewise, I thought it was a very nice idea. But hm.. other than formatting text, don't both the VIC-20 and C-64 share the same CBM BASIC version? No reason that PILOT for C-64 couldn't run on VIC, with enough memory

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> Speaking of LOGO (and the Terrapin..), I assume PILOT is still around in > some form? Correct me here, but I believe that a +BASIC+ implementation of > PILOT was released for either the VIC-20 (??) or the C-64. I recall typing > it in, back in the early 1980s, just for kicks. > > Could that

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

Speaking of LOGO (and the Terrapin..), I assume PILOT is still around in some form? Correct me here, but I believe that a +BASIC+ implementation of PILOT was released for either the VIC-20 (??) or the C-64. I recall typing it in, back in the early 1980s, just for kicks. Could that actually have

Re: vintage computers in active use

> On May 27, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > > > It hasn't > seen battle yet (and I hope it doesn't have to) but I'm a little worried > about the fact that it's beaten (badly) in simulations and exercises with > much older fighter aircraft with much more

Re: vintage computers in active use

It hasn't seen battle yet (and I hope it doesn't have to) but I'm a little worried about the fact that it's beaten (badly) in simulations and exercises with much older fighter aircraft with much more "primitive" tech, including Russian aircraft, too. Oh, just to add more, the

Re: vintage computers in active use

On 05/27/2016 08:18 PM, Paul Anderson wrote: Aviation guys, am I all wet about the F35? OK, the whole concept with the F35, if they can ever get it all working, is that is is NOT an airplane (singular). It is a SYSTEM of planes. So, each pilot can see what ALL the other aircraft in the

Re: vintage computers in active use

On 05/27/2016 11:55 AM, William Donzelli wrote: I suppose chip level repair might be possible with today's SOTs, but I would not want to do it! -- Will Yes, ONLY to keep a museum system working, but if spares are actually available, that would not only be easier, but more original! Jon

Re: vintage computers in active use

On 05/27/2016 11:45 AM, William Donzelli wrote: OK, where can you buy some? You ask the community. You ask on the list or elsewhere. "Hey, I need a 361459. Anyone have one?". They haven't been made since about 1970. But in those six or seven years - wow, did they make a lot of them. In

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

On 05/27/2016 02:52 PM, Jay West wrote: > > At the risk of being flamed... I'll mention that if the kid is more > visually driven, you might try introducing him to an Arduino Uno or > similar. Something he can see the results of his code in lights and > dials. One of my fondest memories of my

Re: Front panel switches - what did they do?

Thanks Lionel, You just helped me start a new list! On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 5:44 AM, Lionel Johnson wrote: > On 25/05/2016 5:06 AM, Paul Anderson wrote: > >> I used to have a notebook of toggle in programs for the PDP8s and PDP11s, >> but it seems to be lost forever.

Re: vintage computers in active use

Those were the days when Kelly came up with an idea that was needed now, and most things were done at the Skunkworks. If something was farmed out, the company probably had no idea what the product was for. Everything was done quickly and efficiently, without most of congress knowing. I heard, but

RE: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

> > You can hardly blame windows for the stupidity of people. This could > > also happen w/ discreet stupid devices > > One word: Therac. Yes! -Ali

Re: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

On 2016-05-27 8:38 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: You can hardly blame windows for the stupidity of people. This could also happen w/ discreet stupid devices One word: Therac. Therac is not the same threat at all. What seems to be missing from the process that leads to specifying Windows is,

Re: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

> During my consultant slut days, I was tasked with building the ODBC backend > for a campus resource management system and the vendor specified SQL Server, > so that's what I did. After I hung up my hat on that job, Code Red blew s/Code Red/Nimda/ They got hit by Code Red, too, but I wasn't

Re: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

> > I wrote time and mission critical food distribution related software for > > the ten years before I retired in vb and then vb.net (oo) I would have > > seen just about every possible bug in windows and in developing > > applications under it. > > You are probably a good coder who knows

Re: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

> You can hardly blame windows for the stupidity of people. This could also > happen w/ discreet stupid devices One word: Therac. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com --

Re: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

On 27/05/2016 23:11, Swift Griggs wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016, Rod Smallwood wrote: Please can we have some specific instances of Windows causing problems. Windows 95 - 98 either blue screened or locked up daily, no matter what you did. In fact, IIRC, there was a timer bug that would _insure_

Re: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

On 2016-05-27 7:37 PM, Ali wrote: After all, what could possibly go wrong? http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/05/faulty-av-scan-disrupts- patients-heart-procedure-when-monitor-goes-black/ To quote your article: "Based upon the available information, the cause for the reported event was due

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

On 5/27/2016 4:12 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: On Fri, 27 May 2016, ben wrote: But back then you could find the BARE hardware... with the latest chips how do your get there? Ben. hehe, Use old hardware? I dunno. Good point. -Swift Checks that his favorite supplier still sells 74LSXX's... Now

Re: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

crypto locker on linux would work if someone exicuted it but then that would be a user fail like most people who get infected from going to the wrong sites and clicking crap... On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 6:05 PM, Dave Wade wrote: > > Please can we have some specific

RE: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

> After all, what could possibly go wrong? > > http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/05/faulty-av-scan-disrupts- > patients-heart-procedure-when-monitor-goes-black/ To quote your article: "Based upon the available information, the cause for the reported event was due to the customer not

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> On May 27, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > And THAT is the best part of everything. I.e. get derailed! Lose complete track of what you set out to do. Discover the unexpected, instead. Break the kit! Make LEDs burn out. Then figure out why. That's what

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> On May 27, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Tapley, Mark wrote: > > but it has a lot of potential to get distracted from what I think you are > aiming for. And THAT is the best part of everything.

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

On May 27, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > There are lots of Pi-based kits out there created for this very purpose. E.g.: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42=20410 Points to multiple links on the “Gertboard” accessory. That adds lots of

Re: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

On 2016-05-27 5:04 PM, Ali wrote: It makes me wonder how many patients have had to wait on care or didn't get proper care because of an IT screwup related to Windows. I have to say just _seeing_ Windows on machines in the ER made me livid. I found it breathtaking they were that caviler about

RE: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

> Please can we have some specific instances of Windows causing problems. > Not unqualified people at home or students but real production environments > with qualified support on hand. > I used every version of windows from 1 to 10. yes XP and millennium too > It is susceptible to MalWare of

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> On May 27, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Ali wrote: > > Yes, of course that makes assumptions on my knowledge level as well > which does not quite extend to Forth or APL. So learn with him, already!

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> On May 27, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Jay West wrote: > > At the risk of being flamed... I'll mention that if the kid is more visually > driven, you might try introducing him to an Arduino Uno or similar. Something > he can see the results of his code in lights and dials. And

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

On Fri, 27 May 2016, ben wrote: > But back then you could find the BARE hardware... with the latest chips > how do your get there? Ben. hehe, Use old hardware? I dunno. Good point. -Swift

Re: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

On Fri, 27 May 2016, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Please can we have some specific instances of Windows causing problems. Windows 95 - 98 either blue screened or locked up daily, no matter what you did. In fact, IIRC, there was a timer bug that would _insure_ the system couldn't stay up for more

RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> I learned a language called "Logo" first. It was taught by volunteer > instructors at a local community center. I was 7, and the minimum age > was supposed to be 10, but they let me in anyway. I enjoyed it. It came > with a few media functions that made programming more fun since it was > pretty

RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> I can suggest "Instant BASIC: Freeze-dried Computer Programming: Jerald > R. > Brown" as a good kids entry-level text. Like numerous other 1980s era > DIY computer books, it's probably available for free download from > archive.org. Thanks. I will check out archive.org and see what they have as

RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> Most of the Usborne books from the 80s are available on Usborne's web > site as PDFs -- "Simple BASIC" (for younger readers) or "Introduction > to Computer Programming" (for slightly older readers) might fit the > bill: > > http://www.usborne.com/catalogue/feature-page/computer-and-coding- >

RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> I was going to suggest he introduce the lad to a wide range of > languages, especially non-procedural ones, and outliers such as Forth > and APL. It's much easier to grasp the concepts (and joy) of things > like functional programming if you're exposed to them before > confirmation bias limits

RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> Have you considered David Lien's book? > One version of it came bundled with the TRS80. Fred, I am not familiar with his book. I will look around and see f I can find a used copy on the usual sites. -Ali

RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

Mark, Tell me about it. In the age of streaming and instant gratification nobody wants to work to get anything anymore. I can't really blame him either: why would you want to run "Hello World" when you can touch your iPad and be playing Minecraft before the 5151 monitor has even warmed up to show

RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> At the risk of being flamed... I'll mention that if the kid is more > visually driven, you might try introducing him to an Arduino Uno or > similar. Something he can see the results of his code in lights and > dials. > Jay, Baby steps - first I got to show him what a chip looks like then we

RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

At the risk of being flamed... I'll mention that if the kid is more visually driven, you might try introducing him to an Arduino Uno or similar. Something he can see the results of his code in lights and dials. J

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

On 5/27/2016 2:15 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: I learned ASM as a kid (I've never become that great at it, but I get by). As a child, I had so few people around who knew anything about computers, nobody was there to say "that's too hard". I had a book that came with a timex 1500 my mom got at a

Re: vintage computers in active use

On 27/05/2016 22:17, Jay West wrote: Ian wrote - When I suggested modernizing, I was told that changing the hardware would require *re-certifying the entire workflow*. In other words, it was far more economical to maintain a 70's era computer than spec, design, acquire/build and

Re: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

On 27/05/2016 22:04, Ali wrote: It makes me wonder how many patients have had to wait on care or didn't get proper care because of an IT screwup related to Windows. I have to say just _seeing_ Windows on machines in the ER made me livid. I found it breathtaking they were that caviler about

RE: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Fred Cisin > Sent: 27 May 2016 22:05 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: RE: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active > use)

RE: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

> And nobody - *ever* - plugs a USB stick into them. Or puts them on a > LAN with machines that people shove USB sticks into. No they don't because they don't have LAN ports or USB ports - at least not one's easily accessible by RNs/MDs/etc. They are single purpose machines that are locked down

Re: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

> On May 27, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Ali wrote: > > I would say very few. You have to remember critical systems are not running > a general windows system i.e. people are not surfing the web on them and > installing the latest games recommended by friends from facebook. Windows on

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> On May 27, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Dave Wade wrote: > > Those who write APL programs ae sadists, and those who like fixing them when > they go wrong are masochists > ... Though I believe Iverson wanted to call it "The Programming > Language" I was going to suggest he

RE: vintage computers in active use

Ian wrote - When I suggested modernizing, I was told that changing the hardware would require *re-certifying the entire workflow*. In other words, it was far more economical to maintain a 70's era computer than spec, design, acquire/build and certify a new system. - Then Gene

RE: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

On Fri, 27 May 2016, Dave Wade wrote: > What would you expect. Properly maintained, managed enterprise and > locked down Windows/7 is solid and reliable. My ER experience was back in the Windows XP days. I have noticed 7 seems pretty stable if you can keep M$ from tricking you into upgrading to

RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

and APL is fun! On Fri, 27 May 2016, Dave Wade wrote: Those who write APL programs ae sadists, IFF they make anybody else look at them.

RE: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

In the ER, they handed me a tiny tablet (2" x 6"?) and asked me to sign my name. "Why?" "So that we can paste your signature into all of the documents. Would you like a copy of the papers that we sign your name to?" After that, Windows seems perfectly suited. What would you expect.

RE: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

> It makes me wonder how many patients have had to wait on care or didn't > get proper care because of an IT screwup related to Windows. I have to > say just _seeing_ Windows on machines in the ER made me livid. I found > it breathtaking they were that caviler about getting people checked in, >

Re: ASM, Clancy & Harvey, and Agile (Re: vintage computers in active use)

On Fri, 27 May 2016, Fred Cisin wrote: > Ah, but the Crazy Cranky C Curmudgeons Classic Computer Talk list is a > subset of cctalk. But, there was a big crash a while back, and > separation of the lists hasn't been completely successful. Yes, quite correct and the tagline for the list is:

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I don't know if anyone else has been working this, but at least I have been following up occasionally with the Omen Technologies owner. Current status (as of yesterday), she is selling the domain name and looking for "big bucks", which I suspect "omen.com" will probably fetch. She wants that done

RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Fred Cisin > Sent: 27 May 2016 21:44 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight > year

RE: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

> > It makes me wonder how many patients have had to wait on care or didn't get > proper care because of an IT screwup related to Windows. I have to say just > _seeing_ Windows on machines in the ER made me livid. I found it breathtaking > they were that caviler about getting people checked in,

RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

Drlegendre wrote... - And BASIC is great, but as soon as the kid grasps the concepts, move him to Perl or Python ASAP. - On Fri, 27 May 2016, Jay West wrote: I suggest instead... "BASIC is great, but as soon as the kid grasps the concepts, move him to assembly language ASAP." *grin*

Re: ASM, Clancy & Harvey, and Agile (Re: vintage computers in active use)

On Fri, 27 May 2016, Josh Dersch wrote: Oh, I see what's going on. See, this is the "cctalk" (Classic Computing Talk) mailing list. I think what you're meaning to send this to is the "ccctalk" (Cranky C Curmudgeons Talk) mailing list. Could we maybe talk about classic computing rather than go

Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

On Fri, 27 May 2016, Cameron Kaiser wrote: > (I was already notorious for refusing to switch to Microsoft Outlook; I > read my mail on-spool, as God intended, over a terminal window.) Damn straight! Check my mail headers and you'll find Alpine :-) > Fast-forward to fall 2003, when I was now a

RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

On Fri, 27 May 2016, Jay West wrote: > I suggest instead... "BASIC is great, but as soon as the kid grasps the > concepts, move him to assembly language ASAP." I learned a language called "Logo" first. It was taught by volunteer instructors at a local community center. I was 7, and the minimum

Re: ASM, Clancy & Harvey, and Agile (Re: vintage computers in active use)

On Fri, 27 May 2016, Paul Koning wrote: ["Demystification"] Those first two titles sound reasonable. The third sounds strangely touchy-feely rather than like an engineering course. A touchy-feely nickname applied by those who personally wouldn't have anything to do with it. They had a

WTB VAX 8650, 8600, or 6340

I always get emails from people wanting to know where to get rid of old vintage computers. I don't think I've ever gotten an email from someone wanting to buy one. But. Just got an email from someone that wants to buy a VAX 8650, 8600, or 6340. Given that the email address is from "Northrop

Re: vintage computers in active use

> > Assembler on a Series/1 is a problem as it's a closed system. Can't be > > run under emulation. No modern replacements available. > > You make some excellent points about the hardware and the difficulty of > emulation et al. When it comes to firing nuclear weapons, personally I'd > like to

Re: vintage computers in active use

On Fri, 27 May 2016, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: > I was at IBM from 1979 through 1997. Started in Boca Raton and finished > up in Austin. It was the Boulder site the whole time for me. Used to be a printer and tape drive manufacturing site. Then they converted the manufacturing floors to hosted

Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> Of course, rather than expose him to 8088 assembler, I’d recommend > you run right out and grab a used TRS-80 Color Computer - cheap, > and 6809 assembly is very very nice - no segment registers. > The downside of *that* is that if he ever decides to use the “Sign Extend” > instruction,

Re: vintage computers in active use

> For some reason Windows computers in Hospital seem especially prone to viral > infections. When I left full-time IT work at the university in 1999, at that time the wacky network admin used an NT 4 desktop because it was (in his opinion) the best Windows money could buy and he wouldn't deign

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

On May 27, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Jay West wrote: > Drlegendre wrote... > - > And BASIC is great, but as soon as the kid grasps the concepts, move him to > Perl or Python ASAP. > - > > I suggest instead... > "BASIC is great, but as soon as the kid grasps the

Seeking Sanyo CRT-70 RGB monitor in the US

Folks, I've been contacted by someone wanting to recreate these monitors and is wanting to buy mine but I can't sell it since it's the only one I've got and apropos of nothing shipping a glass tube across the pond without expensive packing/dismantling isn't really an option. He claims mine is the

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> And BASIC is great, but as soon as the kid grasps the concepts, move him to > Perl or Python ASAP. Basic -> Perl is very easy, heck you can even use line > numbers if you want.. I don't claim to be Larry Wall himself (having had lunch with him a number of times, he has too many dietary

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

Ali, generating interest in the topic is probably the single most critical step you will take. That is where I’ve had the most trouble, and from your first paragraph, sounds like that is your first stumbling block, too. Here are things that might help: 1) Provide him with problems

RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

Drlegendre wrote... - And BASIC is great, but as soon as the kid grasps the concepts, move him to Perl or Python ASAP. - I suggest instead... "BASIC is great, but as soon as the kid grasps the concepts, move him to assembly language ASAP." *grin* I'm only 10% kidding lol J

Re: ASM, Clancy & Harvey, and Agile (Re: vintage computers in active use)

> On May 27, 2016, at 3:25 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > > ... > Anyway, back to, . . . > Clancy and Harvey reworked the UC undergraduate lower division (first two > years) curriculum. They setup a three course sequence at the core, > consisting of "Abstraction", "Data

Re: ASM, Clancy & Harvey, and Agile (Re: vintage computers in active use)

> I had words with Clancy and Harvey. While need may be diminshed, > there is never a complete elimination of the need to pay attention to, > and optimize near, the level of hardware. [top posted, with Swift's remarks below] The Clancy and Harvey topic is about curriculum, and teaching of

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

"Ali" writes: > I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good book that gets the > basic stuff out of the way (what is the CPU, memory, storage, > etc. what are different the parts called, etc.) and maybe another one > that teaches an intro to BASIC written for a very

Re: vintage computers in active use

> On May 27, 2016, at 09:31 , Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: > > > I don’t recall anyone who did but everyone was locked out of the labs until > security came through and collected all the materials. Wow, that's a legendary level of spite. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

I can suggest "Instant BASIC: Freeze-dried Computer Programming: Jerald R. Brown" as a good kids entry-level text. Like numerous other 1980s era DIY computer books, it's probably available for free download from archive.org. I also have a spare copy. And BASIC is great, but as soon as the kid

RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

I learned BASIC around that age. I used the Usborne book, which has been made available as a PDF file by the publisher: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxv0SsvibDMTUXdYTnRaTy1LLVE/view Op 27 mei 2016 8:12 p.m. schreef "Electronics Plus" :

RE: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

http://www.amazon.com/Basic-Handbook-Encyclopedia-Computer-Language/dp/09327 60333/ for the basics of BASIC http://www.amazon.com/BASIC-Computer-Games-Microcomputer-David/dp/0894800523 / for games he can program in BASIC from there go to

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

Trombetta wrote a book "BASIC for students using the IBM PC" On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Ali wrote: > So somewhat OT - I've setup an 8 year old w/ an IBM PC XT w/ CGA. To say he > is less than impressed is understating things :). However, I am determined > that he will

Front Panel News - New production run coming up

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Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

So somewhat OT - I've setup an 8 year old w/ an IBM PC XT w/ CGA. To say he is less than impressed is understating things :). However, I am determined that he will learn basic computer terminology, architecture, history (i.e. how we got here) and at least get his feet wet with programming by

Re: ASM, Clancy & Harvey, and Agile (Re: vintage computers in active use)

On 2016-05-27 12:54 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Swift Griggs wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2016, Fred Cisin wrote: ... I'm not saying the state of the art can't be improved. I only assert that there are some strategies for doing so that seem flawed

RE: vintage computers in active use

Series/1 used either EDX ( Event Driven Executive) or RPS (Realtime Programming Systems) Could be programmed in a variety of languages. I think I used COBOL on EDX. The app was a Transaction -processing Newspaper Classified Order Entry system supporting 300 seats. The project started in 1976

RE: vintage computers in active use

> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Swift > Griggs > Sent: 27 May 2016 16:11 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: RE: vintage computers in active use > > On Thu, 26 May 2016, Dave

Re: vintage computers in active use

> On May 27, 2016, at 9:46 AM, Swift Griggs wrote: > > On Fri, 27 May 2016, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: >> There was a political fight within IBM and the Unix center of competency >> moved from Boca Raton, FL to Austin, TX. All of the Series/1 Unix >> materials were

Re: vintage computers in active use

> OK, there are hundreds of different SLT "cards", ie. the PC boards. But, > reading some FE docs on bitsavers, it seems that all SLT 360's were built > with 95+ % of the SLT "modules" consisting of only 6 types. Yes, a remarkably few number of modules make up a huge bulk of the population. Of

Re: ASM, Clancy & Harvey, and Agile (Re: vintage computers in active use)

On 5/27/2016 9:08 AM, Swift Griggs wrote: While I don't formally do agile, what I do do is in line with many of >the principles behind agile - things like "release early, release >often", short iterations, and constant customer involvement. I can appreciate some of the elements, also. It's

Re: vintage computers in active use

> OK, where can you buy some? You ask the community. You ask on the list or elsewhere. "Hey, I need a 361459. Anyone have one?". >They haven't been made since about 1970. But in those six or seven years - wow, did they make a lot of them. In Binghamton, we have some of those dumb desk ornament

Re: vintage computers in active use

> From: Guy Sotomayor Jr > There was a political fight within IBM and the Unix center of > competency moved .. All of the Series/1 Unix materials were destroyed > at that point I wonder if any of the engineers who worked on it kept a copy at home (as engineers will often do)?

Doomed, expensive IT projects billed to taxpayers - was Re: vintage computers in active use

On 2016-05-27 12:16 PM, Alan Perry wrote: On May 27, 2016, at 08:41, Swift Griggs wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2016, Toby Thain wrote: We're pretty much already there. Agreed. You should hear one of my buddies talk about the air traffic control software he wrote which was

Re: vintage computers in active use

> On May 27, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Swift Griggs wrote: > > On Thu, 26 May 2016, Bryan C. Everly wrote: >> I did work in UNIX on a Series-1 in the telecom space. It probably >> still is in use. > > What kind of Unix did they run? There is almost no information on >

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On 05/26/2016 10:40 PM, William Donzelli wrote: Another CHM volunteer (from the PDP-1 Restoration Project) and I pushed for an IBM 360/30 Restoration Project, and the ability to build replacements for failed SLT modules was part of our plan. I am still trying to figure in which universe are SLT

Re: vintage computers in active use and restoring them

> As far as I can tell, if I suddenly need a specific SLT module, the > odds of finding that specific module at any given time on eBay is > essentially zero. Stuff with standard SLT shows up on Ebay quite often. Not every day, but one could build up a decent pile of SLT cards in time to harvest

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> On May 27, 2016, at 08:41, Swift Griggs wrote: > >> On Thu, 26 May 2016, Toby Thain wrote: >> We're pretty much already there. > > Agreed. You should hear one of my buddies talk about the air traffic > control software he wrote which was replaced with some horror. >

Re: ASM, Clancy & Harvey, and Agile (Re: vintage computers in active use)

On Fri, 27 May 2016, Mouse wrote: > Agile and XP are less about programming productivity in isolation and > more about customer interfacing - and therefore productivity in terms of > producing happy customers Well, as you suspected, I wasn't really thinking about that. That's the convenience

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On Thu, 26 May 2016, Bryan C. Everly wrote: > I did work in UNIX on a Series-1 in the telecom space. It probably > still is in use. What kind of Unix did they run? There is almost no information on Wikipedia or elsewhere. I'm just curious because I've heard of PC/IX, IX/370, and of course

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On Thu, 26 May 2016, Toby Thain wrote: > We're pretty much already there. Agreed. You should hear one of my buddies talk about the air traffic control software he wrote which was replaced with some horror. > Audits of the F35 software found: > * single points of failure (grounding global

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