Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread Ian S. King
On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 8:54 PM, william degnan wrote: > To me, getting old computers up and running, or programming on them *is* > the game as far as I am concerned. More fun than most packaged software > games. I have made my own games, and I certainly play computer

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread william degnan
To me, getting old computers up and running, or programming on them *is* the game as far as I am concerned. More fun than most packaged software games. I have made my own games, and I certainly play computer games, but that's not why I am interested in vintage computing. I just spent a few

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread jim stephens
On 10/8/2016 8:26 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: So computers were not part of my formative years and that's perhaps why I don't see the attraction of computer games--or Twitter, for that matter. I had the luck to have an Olivetti Programma 101 when I was in 5th grade in the early 60's. I had

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/08/2016 07:00 PM, Brad H wrote: > When I was a kid we had the IBM PCjr through PS/2. Concurrently I > had my own Commodore 64. Up until we got our AT, the Commodore was > the game machine. I suspect that you might have put your finger on the nub of it all. I did not have any

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread Brad H
Original message From: Chuck Guzis Date: 2016-10-08 2:17 PM (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Subject: Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!] On 10/08/2016 09:46 AM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: > I

Re: Blue Origin launch (Was: uVAX system (mostly) that Ian King was interested in)

2016-10-08 Thread Curious Marc
Impressive. Good software attached to very good very large very expensive hardware that moves very fast. What's an engineer not to like! Keep the spirit of the 60's going! Marc > On Oct 5, 2016, at 2:32 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: > > As off-topic threads go, this is

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread Charles Anthony
On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > On 10/08/2016 06:13 PM, TeoZ wrote: > > > > Everybody has something they do to chill out, some drink or jog, or > > play games. > > Certainly, but playing computer games after a hard day in front of the > number-cruncher

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/08/2016 06:13 PM, TeoZ wrote: > > Everybody has something they do to chill out, some drink or jog, or > play games. Certainly, but playing computer games after a hard day in front of the number-cruncher seems like a terrible way to detox. For some years, for me, it was bicycling and

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread TeoZ
Everybody has something they do to chill out, some drink or jog, or play games. Anyway my first computers in the 80's were for gaming (Timex 2068 and then a C64). Both were cheap systems. I went to a 286 for school work and since I sold the C64 to help pay for it I did some gaming on it.

Re: Executive desk phones anyone?

2016-10-08 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Sat, Oct 08, 2016, Adrian Graham wrote: [...] > What's interesting from a US standpoint is that it apparently DID make it > over the pond and was sold as the 'Buckingham' so the question is, anyone > heard of it? > > http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk/STCExecutel01.jpg Deceptive subject line --

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/08/2016 03:13 PM, Corey Cohen wrote: > Games have always been part of detoxing after a long day of business > on personal computers. That's probably why I'm borderline loony in my old age--I never bothered to detox. Still don't. Playing a computer game is about as entertaining to me as

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread Corey Cohen
corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ > On Oct 8, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > >> On 10/08/2016 09:46 AM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: >> >> I think the people who complain about "Altairs just sitting on >> desks" might be doing so for at least one reason being because a >>

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread Ian S. King
On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 9:07 AM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: > > > On 10/8/2016 6:06 AM, Corey Cohen wrote: > >> ... >> >> So does this mean you should hoard everything you have until the price >> goes up? I don't have a crystal ball to tell you what is the next item of >> value.

RE: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread Ali
> After we're all gone, what will future generations think of us? That we > developed new hardware and software solely to play games? > > Wow. In a word: yes. I am being a bit tongue in cheek when I say that but not entirely. Initially this may not have been true - i.e. in the 80s people

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread Al Kossow
On 10/8/16 2:17 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > After we're all gone, what will future generations think of us? That we > developed new hardware and software solely to play games? > Probably, given how many cycles are being given to saving every copy-protected Apple II game, compared to a couple guys

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/08/2016 09:46 AM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: > I think the people who complain about "Altairs just sitting on > desks" might be doing so for at least one reason being because a > particular purpose seems to violate the original spirit, intent, and > purpose behind the creation. I hear that a

TPC-I back in one piece (was Re: TeleVideo progress)

2016-10-08 Thread Ian S. King
On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 8:20 PM, jim stephens wrote: > > > On 10/2/2016 6:23 PM, Ian S. King wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've posted looking for help with a TeleVideo TPC-1, and I've heard a lot >> of crickets >> > I saw your FB posting, good job, and chirp chirp. > >>I've

RE: Magnetic media FTGH!

2016-10-08 Thread Rob Jarratt
> > This is all in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. In general, I suck at getting things > shipped; local pickup, either in person or by proxy, is much preferred. I can > try to find the round tuits to ship, but it's usually a losing proposition (I have > at least two boxes of stuff that have been

Re: Magnetic media FTGH!

2016-10-08 Thread Ian S. King
I would love to acquire the Ultrix tapes, but I can't think of any proxies I have in Ottawa. Does Canada have anything like the USPS' 'express' boxes? Or hey, I can wait -- Ian On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Mouse wrote: > I've just dug out and inventoried

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread COURYHOUSE
Right on... The most important thing is IS THE OBJECT BEING SAVED? Even if you restore something today it will be crap in another 50 years If you do not restore it now it will run like crap too. SO... in 50 years both are equal.. they will both run like crap no matter if

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread Roberto Waltman
On 2016-10-08 07:06, Corey Cohen wrote: So does this mean you should hoard everything you have until the price goes up? The expression I used is "Wait until what every wife calls 'A basement full of junk' becomes AliBaba's treasure cave." -- Roberto Waltman

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread Corey Cohen
> On Oct 8, 2016, at 12:46 PM, "j...@cimmeri.com" wrote: > > > > On 10/8/2016 11:22 AM, Corey Cohen wrote: >>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 12:07 PM, "j...@cimmeri.com" wrote: >>> >>> >>> The fact that a friggin' *movie* raises the value of something, also really

Magnetic media FTGH!

2016-10-08 Thread Mouse
I've just dug out and inventoried two boxes of magnetic media. A little of it is not mine; a little more is stuff I'd like copies of if I can make it happen. But most of it is just going to leave soon, one way or another. I'd rather see it go to someone who can actually use it, but it is not

Re: Blown Tantalum Capacitor Advice

2016-10-08 Thread Al Kossow
And stuck Maxtor coaxial spindle motors (RK54) are no joy either. On 10/8/16 11:27 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > On 10/8/16 11:07 AM, Rob Jarratt wrote: > >> I went ahead and replaced it. The drive spins up now, but sadly the drive >> doesn't actually work, after spinning up and making a few

Re: Blown Tantalum Capacitor Advice

2016-10-08 Thread Al Kossow
On 10/8/16 11:07 AM, Rob Jarratt wrote: > I went ahead and replaced it. The drive spins up now, but sadly the drive > doesn't actually work, after spinning up and making a few clunking noises, > it spins down again. I suspect it is trying, and failing, to find track 0. > EXTREMELY common

Re: Blown Tantalum Capacitor Advice

2016-10-08 Thread Adrian Graham
On 08/10/2016 19:07, "Rob Jarratt" wrote: >> A WELL-KNOWN problem with Tantalum caps is that if run in equipment for >> some time, then put on the shelf for some years, then powered up again, >> the caps will fail, often spectacularly. Sometimes, in things like

RE: Blown Tantalum Capacitor Advice

2016-10-08 Thread Rob Jarratt
> A WELL-KNOWN problem with Tantalum caps is that if run in equipment for > some time, then put on the shelf for some years, then powered up again, > the caps will fail, often spectacularly. Sometimes, in things like memory > boards, you will have to replace many caps. Likely, just the cap is

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread j...@cimmeri.com
On 10/8/2016 11:22 AM, Corey Cohen wrote: On Oct 8, 2016, at 12:07 PM, "j...@cimmeri.com" wrote: The fact that a friggin' *movie* raises the value of something, also really irks me. How did movies ever become the be-all, end-all? I'm sure others are irked as well by the

Re: Blown Tantalum Capacitor Advice

2016-10-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/08/2016 05:18 AM, Rob Jarratt wrote: I have an RD53 disk drive. When I plugged it in the other day something blew up, smoke etc. I found that it was a tantalum capacitor on the motor control board that had gone. I suppose I am wondering if just replacing it is a good idea, could the

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread Corey Cohen
> On Oct 8, 2016, at 12:07 PM, "j...@cimmeri.com" wrote: > > >> > > The fact that a friggin' *movie* raises the value of something, also really > irks me. How did movies ever become the be-all, end-all? > > I'm sure others are irked as well by the intrusions of greed or

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread j...@cimmeri.com
On 10/8/2016 6:06 AM, Corey Cohen wrote: ... So does this mean you should hoard everything you have until the price goes up? I don't have a crystal ball to tell you what is the next item of value. Who knew that a movie about the Tucker automobile would make a Tucker one of the most

Re: Picked up Commodore Amiga 2000

2016-10-08 Thread Liam Proven
On 5 October 2016 at 04:55, Fred Cisin wrote: > Not to be more flippant than usual, PC-DOS/MS-DOS has no graphics capability > (80x25 text). Doesn't DOSShell count? -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk •

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Fred Cisin >> Did you tell the dumpsterers that they'd thrown out stuff worth >> thousands of dollars? (I would have made to sure to let them know >> that, with great spite.) > "So? Boss said throw out everything in the closets. ..." Clearly, the Indians weren't to

Re: New acquisition. Ploycorp Poly 1. New Zealand school computer

2016-10-08 Thread william degnan
Cool system. Bill Degnan twitter: billdeg vintagecomputer.net On Oct 8, 2016 5:33 AM, "Terry Stewart" wrote: > Hi guys, > > In case anyone is interested... > http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/blog/2016-10-9-poly-acquisition.htm > > This could have been the BBC of New

Re: Blown Tantalum Capacitor Advice

2016-10-08 Thread Adrian Graham
On 08/10/2016 11:18, "Rob Jarratt" wrote: > I have an RD53 disk drive. When I plugged it in the other day something blew > up, smoke etc. I found that it was a tantalum capacitor on the motor control > board that had gone. I suppose I am wondering if just replacing

Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]

2016-10-08 Thread Corey Cohen
Been following this thread a bit a realized it's time to chime in. The Mustang analogy is a good one. This hobby is becoming like collecting cars. You really can't predict which stuff is going to be worth big money but the stuff that does always surprises the guys who owned one back in the

New acquisition. Ploycorp Poly 1. New Zealand school computer

2016-10-08 Thread Terry Stewart
Hi guys, In case anyone is interested... http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/blog/2016-10-9-poly-acquisition.htm This could have been the BBC of New Zealand schools... (-: Terry (Tez)