Re: WTB: PDP-8/e handbook

2016-11-28 Thread steven
> There are two issues, the binding glue drying and cracking, the other is > high acid paper. > > Allison As mentioned these old handbooks were printed on high acidity paper, not quite as cheap as newspaper but certainly not considered to last. I had heard years ago about 'preservation paper'

Can do (unbound) book scanning - was Re: WTB: PDP-8/e handbook

2016-11-28 Thread Toby Thain
I'm willing to scan any DEC books that are worn out and binding failing. I have a lot of handbooks etc that I won't cut and scan because they're still in good condition. But if somebody has falling-apart books, I can get them guillotined and scan them ADF. They can then be rebound - DIY or

Re: DEC M9312 Configs for a 11/40

2016-11-28 Thread Josh Dersch
On 11/28/16 6:46 PM, william degnan wrote: Recently (today) I noticed Address light 16 would come on when I examine an address. For example All switches down, turn on machine (set to 000 000) RUN/PROC/BUS/CONSOLE lights come one, all other lights off hit LOAD ADDR address light 16 comes on,

Re: WTB: PDP-8/e handbook

2016-11-28 Thread allison
On 11/28/2016 09:23 PM, W2HX wrote: > Hi all, > > I am in the market to obtain the PDP-8/e small computer handbook in the form > of a real book. There is one on ABE books available which is softcover. I > always worry about a 500 page book in softcover in terms of the binding and > general

Re: DEC M9312 Configs for a 11/40

2016-11-28 Thread william degnan
> > Recently (today) I noticed Address light 16 would come on when I examine > an address. For example > All switches down, turn on machine (set to 000 000) RUN/PROC/BUS/CONSOLE lights come one, all other lights off hit LOAD ADDR address light 16 comes on, RUN/PROC/BUS/CONSOLE lights stay on.

Re: DEC M9312 Configs for a 11/40

2016-11-28 Thread william degnan
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Henk Gooijen wrote: > > > > Van: william degnan > Verzonden: maandag 28 november 2016 01:28 > Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts > Onderwerp: Re: DEC M9312 Configs for a

Tektronix DVST Terminals & 4052's in sad shape

2016-11-28 Thread Pete Lancashire
http://petelancashire.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=7780 If interested in details click on thumbnail the click on the picture or upper right corner select the full size Will try to get and at least salvage the CRT's -pete

Re: Other SMS300/8X300/8X305 uses?

2016-11-28 Thread Tony Duell
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 1:43 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > I bought a rev 1 with proms and a print server from dca on ebay today to dump > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/192014611480 That is the board I was thinking of. > http://www.ebay.com/itm/262721065197 > > On 11/28/16 5:33 PM,

Re: WTB: PDP-8/e handbook

2016-11-28 Thread COURYHOUSE
Eugene - I never saw a hardcopy... ed# In a message dated 11/28/2016 7:24:05 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, w...@w2hx.com writes: Hi all, I am in the market to obtain the PDP-8/e small computer handbook in the form of a real book. There is one on ABE books available which is

Re: SWTPC 6800 issues again

2016-11-28 Thread Brad H
It tested good with my DVM when I first had it.. but the cap is original for sure... maybe I will invest in a new one even though it seemed ok. Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: "Ian S. King" Date: 2016-11-28 11:37 AM (GMT-08:00) To:

Re: SWTPC 6800 issues again

2016-11-28 Thread Chris Elmquist
On November 28, 2016 1:37:54 PM CST, "Ian S. King" wrote: >On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Brad H >> wrote: > >> Hey guys, >> >> >> >> You might recall a while back I was having issues where I'd have to >power >> up/power off multiple times

pdp-8e power test/lamps

2016-11-28 Thread W2HX
Hi folks. As I begin getting my 8e running, after checking the PS for proper voltages and ripple I connected up the front panel. This picture is with all cards removed, just the PS and front panel. http://w2hx.com/x/VintageComp/PDP-8e/power-applied-no-cards.jpg Can anyone tell me if I have

WTB: PDP-8/e handbook

2016-11-28 Thread W2HX
Hi all, I am in the market to obtain the PDP-8/e small computer handbook in the form of a real book. There is one on ABE books available which is softcover. I always worry about a 500 page book in softcover in terms of the binding and general sturdiness. Was there a hardcover version of this

Re: Other SMS300/8X300/8X305 uses?

2016-11-28 Thread Al Kossow
We have little in the CHM collection coax or twinax related, which I'm trying to fix. One of the reasons I got the Chameleon 32 and the MTX 1174 recently. On 11/28/16 5:45 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > >> I bought a rev 1 with

Re: Other SMS300/8X300/8X305 uses?

2016-11-28 Thread Eric Smith
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > I bought a rev 1 with proms and a print server from dca on ebay today to > dump > Cool! I've only ever used the 8-bit IRMA II that loaded the firmware into RAM. At the time I was working for a company with multiple IBM

Re: Other SMS300/8X300/8X305 uses?

2016-11-28 Thread Al Kossow
I bought a rev 1 with proms and a print server from dca on ebay today to dump http://www.ebay.com/itm/192014611480 http://www.ebay.com/itm/262721065197 On 11/28/16 5:33 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > >> IRMA card >> > > I'd

Re: Other SMS300/8X300/8X305 uses?

2016-11-28 Thread Eric Smith
On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > IRMA card > I'd forgotten about that. The later ones designed the 8X305 out. It's interesting in that the firmware gets loaded into RAM, rather than running for PROM.

Re: Other SMS300/8X300/8X305 uses?

2016-11-28 Thread Ken Seefried
I vaguely recall a T-1 network controller with a 8x300 series controller in an X.25 node about 30 years ago, but I don't have any supporting doco. I think it's pretty clear that uses other than disk controllers were very rare. KJ

Re: VAX 4000-100 QBUS cables

2016-11-28 Thread Peter Coghlan
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 19:53 +01:00, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 08:39:03AM -0800, Glen Slick wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Pontus Pihlgren > > wrote: > > > > > > And I forgot, that is just the cable. I suppose you

Re: DEC M9312 Configs for a 11/40

2016-11-28 Thread william degnan
> > > > >> It just seems to me that there is a CPU or UNIBUS issue when I see >> performance like this, again my hunch. It's not the controller. If the >> disk was bad, it'd at least try something, you'd see something. >> > You are seeing something, in the controller's CSR register. What is it >

Re: SWTPC 6800 issues again

2016-11-28 Thread allison
On 11/28/16 11:22 AM, Brad H wrote: Hey guys, You might recall a while back I was having issues where I'd have to power up/power off multiple times before I'd get the 6800 to start up correctly and give me the SWTBUG prompt. What I did was remove an overwrought modified RAM board and

Re: DEC M9312 Configs for a 11/40

2016-11-28 Thread Josh Dersch
On 11/28/16 7:11 AM, william degnan wrote: If you really want to make a bootable XXDP TU58 tape image, the instructions given by AK6DN here: http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?42246-How-to-make- a-bootable-XXDP-file-for-TU58-emulator this is what I have been doing. And what

RE: DEC M9312 Configs for a 11/40

2016-11-28 Thread Henk Gooijen
Van: william degnan Verzonden: maandag 28 november 2016 01:28 Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Onderwerp: Re: DEC M9312 Configs for a 11/40 I have a CPU backplane populated as follows, I have checked the jumpers on the CPU cards

Re: SWTPC 6800 issues again

2016-11-28 Thread Ian S. King
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Brad H wrote: > Hey guys, > > > > You might recall a while back I was having issues where I'd have to power > up/power off multiple times before I'd get the 6800 to start up correctly > and give me the SWTBUG prompt. What I

ISO Tekelec Chameleon 32 mfm disk

2016-11-28 Thread Al Kossow
Slim chance, but does anyone have a working Chameleon that I could clone the software off of? They are 40mb MFM drives, I just bought two, and both units are missing the drives, making them boat anchors. Or, slimmer yet, if someone has the software on floppy

Re: Other SMS300/8X300/8X305 uses?

2016-11-28 Thread Paul Koning
No, I never have. The only PRO related schematics I have matches the motherboard portion of the one on Bitsavers. paul > On Nov 27, 2016, at 6:00 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > > have you seen a copy of the schematic anywhere? > closest that has turned up is the Russian

Re: VAX 4000-100 QBUS cables

2016-11-28 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On Mon, 28 Nov 2016, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > > FYI, the VAX 4000-100/105/106 (KA52/KA54/KA54) systems have no backplane > > of any kind and do not use Q-bus internally, except for the CQBIC (CVAX to > > Q22-Bus Interface Chip) ASIC directly bridging one of the NCA (NDAL to > > CDAL Adapter,

Re: VAX 4000-100 QBUS cables

2016-11-28 Thread Glen Slick
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > > And I forgot, that is just the cable. I suppose you need a matching > board in the QBUS box. Any idea what part number that might be? I have an M9405-PA. It has one male and one female 3-row 50-pin D-shell

SWTPC 6800 issues again

2016-11-28 Thread Brad H
Hey guys, You might recall a while back I was having issues where I'd have to power up/power off multiple times before I'd get the 6800 to start up correctly and give me the SWTBUG prompt. What I did was remove an overwrought modified RAM board and replaced it with a more basic 4K board set

Re: VAX 4000-100 QBUS cables

2016-11-28 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 03:14:57PM +, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > > For the record they are DEC P/N BC04V-09 (17-02048-01), though the photos > with the only listing I could find indicate quite a sorry state of the > cables offered I'm afraid. > And I forgot, that is just the cable. I

Re: VAX 4000-100 QBUS cables

2016-11-28 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 03:14:57PM +, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > > FYI, the VAX 4000-100/105/106 (KA52/KA54/KA54) systems have no backplane > of any kind and do not use Q-bus internally, except for the CQBIC (CVAX to > Q22-Bus Interface Chip) ASIC directly bridging one of the NCA (NDAL to

Re: VAX 4000-100 QBUS cables

2016-11-28 Thread allison
On 11/28/16 9:20 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Pontus Pihlgren > The machine also has a qbus which is somewhat peculiar to find in a > desktop VAX. I don't know much about Vaxen, but I think the early desktop ones all had a QBUS. I'm not sure if it was ever used for memory

Re: VAX 4000-100 QBUS cables

2016-11-28 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On Mon, 28 Nov 2016, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > However, I don't have the cables necessary to attach a QBUS expansion. > > Does anyone have a set? What do they even look like? > > They are a pair of boards connected with a pair of 50-pin cables. The boards > are different on each end,

Re: VAX 4000-100 QBUS cables

2016-11-28 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Pontus Pihlgren > The machine also has a qbus which is somewhat peculiar to find in a > desktop VAX. I don't know much about Vaxen, but I think the early desktop ones all had a QBUS. I'm not sure if it was ever used for memory access; I know some used it as an I/O bus (to

VAX 4000-100 QBUS cables

2016-11-28 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Hi I brought up a VAX 4000-100 yesterday to test DSSI disks. It worked like a charm. The machine also has a qbus which is somewhat peculiar to find in a desktop VAX. However, I don't have the cables necessary to attach a QBUS expansion. Does anyone have a set? What do they even look like?

Re: Bringing up a PDP-8e

2016-11-28 Thread jos
On 27.11.2016 20:46, W2HX wrote: Hi folks, This is my first vintage computing project. I have a PDP-8/e with the following boards in this order. FRONT PANEL M8330 KK8E CPU Timing board (system clock), replaces M833 M8300 \KK8E CPU Major registers M8310 /KK8E CPU Major register

Re: Bringing up a PDP-8e

2016-11-28 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 11:46:46AM -0800, W2HX wrote: > Hi folks, > > This is my first vintage computing project. I have a PDP-8/e with the > following boards in this order. Nice machine. Strange that you are missing a serial interface. > Each core pair is 16KW. There are a bunch of other