Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:04:26AM +0100, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > > I'll provide examples of some of these. Others can be found online. Here are three panels I could easily get to: http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/front_paneler/headers/ /P

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 31/12/2016 04:14, william degnan wrote: You can add the industrial/11 blue and red to your color page, not an exact match to any that you have on your site, but my photos are not color consistent, you'd have to see or scan. From my eye (and I am a web designer who has to match colors for

RE: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Robert Adamson
> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:10:05 +0100 > From: Pontus Pihlgren > > (re http://www.kcg.ac.jp/museum/computer/images/mini_computers/dec/vax11_780.jpg ) > > Yes, but it is the taller racks. I had only seen the metal header on > the PDP-12 and our 8/I with earlier lower racks.

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread COURYHOUSE
In a message dated 12/30/2016 10:49:07 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, c...@chdickman.com writes: On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 12:21 AM, wrote: > I wonder if there is a PANTONE color chat assignment that DEC > ever listed? That would allow you to nail it dead on. Of

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Charles Dickman
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 12:21 AM, wrote: > I wonder if there is a PANTONE color chat assignment that DEC > ever listed? That would allow you to nail it dead on. Of course it would, but the DEC STD 092 available is not specified in PANTONE, If a later version of the

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread COURYHOUSE
(with correction) I wonder if there is a PANTONE color chart assignment that DEC ever listed? That would allow you to nail it dead on. Ed# _www.SMECC.org_ (_http://www.SMECC.org_ (http://www.smecc.org/) ) In a message dated 12/30/2016 10:21:32 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread COURYHOUSE
In a message dated 12/30/2016 9:31:07 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, c...@chdickman.com writes: On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:14 PM, william degnan wrote: > You can add the industrial/11 blue and red to your color page That's another problem I think, there isn't any

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Charles Dickman
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 11:14 PM, william degnan wrote: > You can add the industrial/11 blue and red to your color page That's another problem I think, there isn't any documentation to say what colors a particular scheme used. I think the PDP8/e is amber and terra cotta,

Re: DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread william degnan
You can add the industrial/11 blue and red to your color page, not an exact match to any that you have on your site, but my photos are not color consistent, you'd have to see or scan. From my eye (and I am a web designer who has to match colors for living) my actual industrial/11 is

Re: OS/8 FORTRAN IV

2016-12-30 Thread Charles Dickman
I tied DEV SEL L for my homebrew LPT to +5 and now F4 runs. I am curious if the EAE is used with F4. The Language Manual says it is, but it is only mentioned in one place. There is nothing else to select using it or not using it. I looked at the sources for various parts of F4 and can't see that

DEC color standards was: Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Charles Dickman
Rod, On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Hi Guys > > I have had a quick word with the girls down at the silk screen > shop. A couple of years ago I tried to translate the DEC color standards to RGB based on the colors in the

Re: TI 990/189 debugging

2016-12-30 Thread Josh Dersch
Just to bring some closure to this old thread, I finally picked up a working TMS9980 cpu chip (after getting one faulty one off of eBay -- it was even more dead than the one it was replacing). And it appears to work properly in the 990/189 board, with the 9.3V supplied on the CPU socket. Thanks,

Re: Transporting an LGP-30

2016-12-30 Thread Antonio Carlini
On 30/12/16 17:49, Paul Koning wrote: The Dutch computer ARMAC had a nice optimization, a track buffer. Under software control a given track would be copied to that buffer (in some sort of RAM -- core?) and then references to those addresses would be satisfied from the buffer. You could think

G-15 / was: Re: Transporting an LGP-30

2016-12-30 Thread Evan Koblentz
Is your drum in good condition? Ours was full of dust, and 3 tracks had been ground down to the brass due to dust packing under the heads. We haven't inspected it that closely.

Re: Z-80 code question about a loop that depends on the contents of the refresh register

2016-12-30 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016, Tony Duell wrote: > What I need to do is find exactly how the flags are set by the > LD A,R It's been long since I did anything with the Z80, but offhand all flags are set as with ALU operations according to the value loaded into the accumulator (same with LD A,I, but not

Re: Transporting an LGP-30

2016-12-30 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 12/30/2016 09:49 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > I have an old set of lecture notes I'm translating, for a course on > computer design from 1948, which discusses various memory types. Not > core memory, that came later. But it mentions drums, and theorizes > that those might be operated at 60,000

Re: Transporting an LGP-30

2016-12-30 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 01:02:50AM -0500, Evan Koblentz wrote: Yes. When museum visitors ask, "What is its clock speed?," I reply, "Something like a few hundred RPM." :) would 1 RPM be 60 cycles per second?

Re: Transporting an LGP-30

2016-12-30 Thread Paul Koning
> On Dec 30, 2016, at 12:51 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > > On 12/29/2016 10:04 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: >> ... > Ouch! That means it runs one instruction per revolution of the drum? that > would slow it to something like 30 IPS! >> ... >> Oh, I think a good case can be made.

Re: Transporting an LGP-30

2016-12-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/30/2016 01:09 AM, Mark Linimon wrote: (as you might imagine, most coding was done in machine language -- the compilers trying to deal with this was a nightmare. And waay slow.) Yes, supposedly the Algol compiler took two days to run on a modest program. Jon

Re: Transporting an LGP-30

2016-12-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/29/2016 11:37 PM, Evan Koblentz wrote: I know it's getting off-topic, but anyone who wants to see a G-15 is welcome to come visit the Vintage Computer Federation museum in New Jersey. There were 500 units made. The one here is believed to be number three. :) We hope to restore it one

Re: Transporting an LGP-30

2016-12-30 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Jon Elson > That means it runs one instruction per revolution of the drum? I don't think it's quite that bad; ISTR something in the manual (BitSavers has a good selection of them, it was in the Programming Manual, which is quite interesting to look at) about how 'logical'

Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 08:54:35PM +1000, ste...@malikoff.com wrote: > Pontus said: > > 2. Rack type, the earlier shorter racks had metal headers without > >rounded corners (see PDP-8/i). Lowboy racks have a slanted header > >with deeper frame. > > > > 3. Intended market. Lab systems was

Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread steven
Pontus said: > 2. Rack type, the earlier shorter racks had metal headers without >rounded corners (see PDP-8/i). Lowboy racks have a slanted header >with deeper frame. > > 3. Intended market. Lab systems was green, industrial was blue/red. (The >PDP-12 was available in orange, blue and

Re: Banner Panels

2016-12-30 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 07:40:26AM +, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Hi > The pictures are for reference. I redraw all panels to get the > separations for silk screening. > Rod Ok, I'll try to take som pictures tonight. Also, I'd like to elaborate regarding rack headers and why there are so