Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2017-Jan-10, at 11:37 PM, Brad H wrote: > Original message > From: Chuck Guzis > Date: 2017-01-10 11:24 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > > Subject: Re: What's the rarest or most unusual

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Adrian Stoness
only surviving model of a phillips p1000 On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:58 PM, Brad H < vintagecompu...@bettercomputing.net> wrote: > I don't know how rare some of these are but I'm told they are: > > 1) Original Mark-8 board set. (Think there are less than 20 Mark-8s/board > sets out there

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Brad H
Original message From: Chuck Guzis Date: 2017-01-10 11:24 PM (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Subject: Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own? On 01/10/2017

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 01/10/2017 09:58 PM, Brad H wrote: > Am envying the Altair guys though. I want one but they always come > up at just the wrong time. I've still got the 8800 I built (with all those crappy white stranded wires) back in the day. It's not that great, trust me. I moved to an IMSAI box and

RE: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Brad H
I don't know how rare some of these are but I'm told they are: 1) Original Mark-8 board set. (Think there are less than 20 Mark-8s/board sets out there currently) 2) Tektronix 6800 Board Bucket (probably even less than above?) 3) Digital Group Z80 and 8080 systems + 2 cassette Phideck 4)

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread allison
On 01/10/2017 05:09 PM, Andy Cloud wrote: > Hi Everyone! > > I thought this would be an interesting question to ask around - What's the > rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own? > > For me, personally, I have a Altair 8800! > > Looking forward to hearing your answers > >> _Andy I

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread ethan
Cray J932SE Original paper copies of Dvorak newsletters and software catalogs that came with my IMSAI 8080. Prices for Microsoft BASIC and all that. I'd imagine the paperwork is more rare than the system. There are color brochures for some other systems like vectorgraph as well. I should

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/10/2017 06:01 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: Although not yet physically in my possession (I still have to “pick it up” for large values of “pick up”) my rarest/most unusual system is an IBM 4331 with all of it’s related peripherals. Specifically it includes: * IBM 4331 CPU with 1MB of RAM

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Jon Elson
OK, I have some TINY core planes out of a Honeywell system. One unit was a tape drive, the other a line printer. These were hooked together to make an off-line print despooler. I got it working enough to analyze the signals, and then wrote a driver and built an interface to my S-100 Z-80

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread drlegendre .
Off the top of my head, here's a whimsical little oddball - the Passez-Sonna Floppy Clock: http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/modern-floppy-disc-clock-passez-sonna-430407608 Mine has a red, white & blue 'stars & stripes' (US flag) motif printed on it, but is otherwise identical. It's the only

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Josh Dersch
On 1/10/17 3:29 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 01/10/2017 02:09 PM, Andy Cloud wrote: Hi Everyone! I thought this would be an interesting question to ask around - What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own? For me, personally, I have a Altair 8800! Looking forward to

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread dwight
You reminded me of two other interesting things: One is an early development system for the I4004. Includes a SIM4-01, MB-410 and MP7-03. I've actually written some code for it. Blowing 1702As by the serial 110 baud is about 7 minutes. I wrote code to do a standalone copy of another EPROM

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Chris Elmquist
On January 10, 2017 5:29:00 PM CST, Chuck Guzis wrote: >On 01/10/2017 02:09 PM, Andy Cloud wrote: >> Hi Everyone! >> >> I thought this would be an interesting question to ask around - >> What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own? >> >> For me,

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2017-Jan-10, at 2:09 PM, Andy Cloud wrote: > Hi Everyone! > > I thought this would be an interesting question to ask around - What's the > rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own? > > For me, personally, I have a Altair 8800! > > Looking forward to hearing your answers How

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Ben Sinclair
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Andy Cloud wrote: > I thought this would be an interesting question to ask around - What's the > rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own? > My rarest item is probably an IBM System/360 nameplate, the type that was attached on

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread COURYHOUSE
That is amazing Ian ! - Photo? Wonder what the ticket was for that back in its new day... Ed# In a message dated 1/10/2017 4:27:44 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, isk...@uw.edu writes: I'd have to say my VAX 6000-600. It has six processors, and therefore is alternatively known

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread COURYHOUSE
DIGITAL TRAINERS TUBE TYPE - IBM Digital trainer - uses the earliest of IBM plug in tube things that were in their commercial systytems http://www.smecc.org/video/logic_5.gif IF ANYONE CAN SHED LIGHT ON THIS IT WOULD BE FANTASTIC! SOLID STATE - DEC COMPUTER LAB with the pdp-8 I

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread steven
Somewhere I have (misplaced) a BCROS card from a 360/50. Beautiful, intriguing thing... haven't seen it in years unfortunately. Also a pair of earrings made from two IBM 1403 chain printer type slugs my dad made for my mother many decades ago, long before 'retro tech jewellery' became a thing.

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr
Although not yet physically in my possession (I still have to “pick it up” for large values of “pick up”) my rarest/most unusual system is an IBM 4331 with all of it’s related peripherals. Specifically it includes: * IBM 4331 CPU with 1MB of RAM * 4 IBM 3340 drives (w 12 70MB winchester packs)

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Peter Cetinski
Probably my rarest setup is the Tandy 6000 HD with Xenix and working Bernoulli disk cartridge backup system. https://youtu.be/mM1IH8frd_U Pete > On Jan 10, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Andy Cloud wrote: > > Hi Everyone! > > I thought this would be an interesting question to ask

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Jerry Kemp
Wow, that must have taken a lot of will power to give that up. If I had it, I'm not sure I could have done that. It's none of my business, but..fingers crossed.that your 3b2 stuff made it to Seth Morabito, the gentleman who is working on the 3b2 emulator project and is in need of

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Mike Loewen
On Tue, 10 Jan 2017, Andy Cloud wrote: I thought this would be an interesting question to ask around - What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own? 64Kbit core plane from an AN/FSQ-7 (SAGE) computer: http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/SAGE/Coreplane-1L.jpg ...along

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Jules Richardson
On 01/10/2017 04:09 PM, Andy Cloud wrote: Hi Everyone! I thought this would be an interesting question to ask around - What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own? I don't know if it qualifies as computer-related or not, but I do have a Burroughs adding machine from

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 01/10/2017 02:09 PM, Andy Cloud wrote: > Hi Everyone! > > I thought this would be an interesting question to ask around - > What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own? > > For me, personally, I have a Altair 8800! > > Looking forward to hearing your answers That's a

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Ian S. King
I'd have to say my VAX 6000-600. It has six processors, and therefore is alternatively known as the VAX 6660 - the Devil's VAX. :-) I've not been able to boot it because I don't have three-phase power to my house. However, I've been informed that the H405 can be rewired to run correctly off

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread dwight
I have Nicolet 1080. It is a 20 bit computer and has 12Kx20 core memory. To my knowledge, there are only 5 of these remaining in existence. Only 375 were said to have been made. Mine is mostly working but the last time I ran it, it had disk problems. I need to debug it. Dwight

What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

2017-01-10 Thread Andy Cloud
Hi Everyone! I thought this would be an interesting question to ask around - What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own? For me, personally, I have a Altair 8800! Looking forward to hearing your answers >_Andy

Re: Female Computer

2017-01-10 Thread dwight
I've always kind of thought of computers as more like dogs. Gender is not a big issue with dogs ( except in special cases ). Like dogs, they are constantly needing retraining and feeding. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of ben

Re: Female Computer

2017-01-10 Thread ben
On 1/10/2017 7:49 AM, Rick Bensene wrote: Ben Wrote: Where are the Female Computers? Hal To which Dave W. replied: Here they were ... http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3311/3214242023_ca5f2425a2_o.jpg And, to this I say - BRILLIANT! These ladies were indeed called computers back in

Compaq C series 2010c - aka series 2930a posters & Point of sale stuff needed

2017-01-10 Thread COURYHOUSE
Compaq C series 2010c - aka series 2930a posters & Point of sale stuff needed We were given one - apparently not used in box the tab for the what I assume is the config battery next to the main battery compartment never even had its white paper pull tab pulled out to stat the

Re: Boot Loader for 3P+S on IMSAI

2017-01-10 Thread william degnan
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 1:30 PM, william degnan wrote: > > > I believe this image is set to cause the 3P+S to act like a 2SIO card for > BASIC. NOTE: It's set for a 20 mA current loop Teletype. You're not > using a teletype, so ignore related jumpers (EIA vs. 20mA

Re: Boot Loader for 3P+S on IMSAI

2017-01-10 Thread william degnan
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Win Heagy wrote: > Took a little digging but I found the thread where you were talking > about port 20/21. I was able to configure the 3P+S card and run the > test from the solivant site successfully, but I'm not able to upload > basic. I have

Re: Boot Loader for 3P+S on IMSAI

2017-01-10 Thread Win Heagy
Took a little digging but I found the thread where you were talking about port 20/21. I was able to configure the 3P+S card and run the test from the solivant site successfully, but I'm not able to upload basic. I have a couple more things to try, including setting a small upload delay as Bill

Re: Boot Loader for 3P+S on IMSAI

2017-01-10 Thread william degnan
I believe this image is set to cause the 3P+S to act like a 2SIO card for BASIC. NOTE: It's set for a 20 mA current loop Teletype. You're not using a teletype, so ignore related jumpers (EIA vs. 20mA current loop)...the rest should be correct for what you're trying to do. b

Re: OT: Female Computer

2017-01-10 Thread Jochen Kunz
Am 10.01.17 um 09:08 schrieb Dave Wade: > Here they were ... > > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3311/3214242023_ca5f2425a2_o.jpg See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Computers -- tschüß, Jochen

Re: pdp-11 assembly standards

2017-01-10 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Phil Budne > > I've always assumed the P in PAL was for paper tape. > > The Wikipedia artile for PDP-8 says that PAL-8 assembled from paper > > tape into memory, so the A and L could have been for Assembler and > > Loader. > > I have a number of

Re: pdp-11 assembly standards

2017-01-10 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Paul Koning > Is that the Unix assembler convention? Yup. From "Unix Assembler Reference Manual" (by DMR; no date, but the one I'm looking at came with V6): "An octal constant consists of a sequence of digits ... A decimal constant consists of a sequence of digits terminated by a

Re: pdp-11 assembly standards

2017-01-10 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Phil Budne > I've always assumed the P in PAL was for paper tape. > The Wikipedia artile for PDP-8 says that PAL-8 assembled from paper > tape into memory, so the A and L could have been for Assembler and > Loader. I have a number of different versions of the "PDP-11

Re: pdp-11 assembly standards

2017-01-10 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 10, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > >> From: Brent Hilpert > > One assembler doc uses a prefix of "" > >> So the answer is, by modern expectations the old standard would be >> ambiguous or misleading. > > Well, the ideas of 'assembler' and

Re: pdp-11 assembly standards

2017-01-10 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 10, 2017, at 11:37 AM, Phil Budne wrote: > > I've always assumed the P in PAL was for paper tape. > > The Wikipedia artile for PDP-8 says that PAL-8 assembled from paper > tape into memory, so the A and L could have been for Assembler and Loader. Could be. I took

Re: pdp-11 assembly standards

2017-01-10 Thread Phil Budne
I've always assumed the P in PAL was for paper tape. The Wikipedia artile for PDP-8 says that PAL-8 assembled from paper tape into memory, so the A and L could have been for Assembler and Loader. ISTR PAL-11A was also an "absolute" assembler (did not output REL files), but there was also a

RE: Contacting Jay West

2017-01-10 Thread Rob Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of geneb > Sent: 10 January 2017 15:18 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: Contacting Jay West > > On Mon, 9 Jan 2017, ben wrote: > > > On

Re: pdp-11 assembly standards

2017-01-10 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Noel Chiappa wrote: > > What's the difference between PAL-11 and MACRO-11? > Without going through the manuals at length, basically MACRO-11 supports > macros, and PAL-11 doesn't. The syntax is otherwise very similar. So I wonder if this holds true in general, PAL are simpler assemblers

Re: Contacting Jay West

2017-01-10 Thread geneb
On Mon, 9 Jan 2017, ben wrote: On 1/9/2017 3:13 PM, geneb wrote: On Mon, 9 Jan 2017, Rob Jarratt wrote: No HP-2000 problem, just wasn't HP-2000 sure if I had sent it to the right place HP-2000. "Meet single HP-2000 in your area!" g. Where are the Female Computers? They're ALL

RE: Female Computer

2017-01-10 Thread Rick Bensene
Ben Wrote: > > Where are the Female Computers? > Hal >To which Dave W. replied: >Here they were ... >http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3311/3214242023_ca5f2425a2_o.jpg And, to this I say - BRILLIANT! These ladies were indeed called computers back in those days! -Rick

Re: pdp-11 assembly standards

2017-01-10 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Lars Brinkhoff > What's the difference between PAL-11 and MACRO-11? Without going through the manuals at length, basically MACRO-11 supports macros, and PAL-11 doesn't. The syntax is otherwise very similar. > PALX is also the name for a cross assembler targeting PDP-11. I

Re: Yugoslavian Computer Magazine Cover Girls of the 1980s and 1990s

2017-01-10 Thread Johannes Thelen
How about this cover from German computer magazine Computer Programmert Zur Unterhaltung? https://fi.pinterest.com/pin/274790014738894542/ ...looks like cover of German film, you know what kind of film... I would love to know why that photo. Is there article "How to kill your sex life with 64

Re: pdp-11 assembly standards

2017-01-10 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Noel Chiappa wrote: > Well, technically, DEC had PAL-11 and MACRO-11, but PAL-11 was > basically a subset of MACRO-11, and used the same number syntax.) I've been wondering about this! What's the difference between PAL-11 and MACRO-11? There's PAL III, PALX, PAL-D, PAL-8, PAL-10, and MACRO-8

Re: pdp-11 assembly standards

2017-01-10 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Brent Hilpert One assembler doc uses a prefix of "" > So the answer is, by modern expectations the old standard would be > ambiguous or misleading. Well, the ideas of 'assembler' and 'standard' don't really go together in my mind... :-) But seriously, I don't know

OT: Female Computer RE: Contacting Jay West

2017-01-10 Thread Dave Wade
Here they were ... http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3311/3214242023_ca5f2425a2_o.jpg Dave > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of ben > Sent: 10 January 2017 06:50 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Contacting Jay West > > On